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This is from The Age:

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She admitted her actions were based on revenge, and said she had photographs of other AFL players. ''There are players from other clubs: West Coast, Sydney, Collingwood, Richmond, Hawthorn and few of Melbourne. They are of a similar nature to the first one that came out,'' she said.

I honestly don't know what to say other than that I hope no more player reputations are senselessly damaged by this.

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      On 20/12/2010 at 11:21, Benno said:

    how do we know?

    ..... the general public, have no idea.

    Agree. So why make the connection with Lovett??

      On 20/12/2010 at 11:21, Benno said:

    im more making the point that the saints treated lovett badly...although it probably cost them a flag in the end...

    They didn't and he didn't.

    His actions were deplorable and the fallout made his position completely untenable. Lovett is no saint...on a number of fronts.

      On 20/12/2010 at 11:17, 45HG16 said:

    Completely, 100% different situation.

    Agree.

    This is another media storm in a teacup giving airtime to people who least earn it.

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      On 20/12/2010 at 12:52, Fork said:

    Saintsational thread

    A link to her twitter page amongst here ... Lovin' it she is .

    I liked one posters comment

    "If the pic she has of me surfaces, please let me say in advance it was a very very cold day..."

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    I'm with Emma Quayle on this:

    "I understand why St Kilda & the AFLPA are outraged, but why would the players even take these pictures to begin with? I don't get it."

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    This scares me

    From the age article

    "She admitted her actions were based on revenge, and said she had photographs of other AFL players. ''There are players from other clubs: West Coast, Sydney, Collingwood, Richmond, Hawthorn and few of Melbourne. They are of a similar nature to the first one that came out,'' she said."

    I was hoping the demons were going to dodge this bullet

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      On 20/12/2010 at 20:27, Rocknroll said:

    "She admitted her actions were based on revenge, and said she had photographs of other AFL players. ''There are players from other clubs: West Coast, Sydney, Collingwood, Richmond, Hawthorn and few of Melbourne. They are of a similar nature to the first one that came out,'' she said."

    Take a deep breath and relax. It's only a matter of time before we have a player or two getting caught being a dumb-dumb; such is the nature of having so many meathead footballers in the public spotlight. If a few nudie photos are the worst we get stung with in the next few years, then I say we've gotten off lightly. These photos aren't scandalous and these boys have not done anything wrong (in the evidence presented), either morally or legally in my view. This is just very embarrassing for those involved.

    I wouldn't mind bumping that "our players are model citizens" thread from a few months ago though.

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      On 20/12/2010 at 09:39, hardtack said:

    it was asking you to elaborate to the point of explaining how it was apparent that they had been taken by a female as opposed to a male.

      On 20/12/2010 at 14:18, Deestroy All said:

    The Saints players are posing for the shots in all their homoerotic glory and stark nekkid. The girl that released them didn't take them, and I'd guess the one with 2 of the players in it was taken by another player. So then you gotta wonder how it got out.

    Girl says she took them herself...

      On 20/12/2010 at 14:18, Deestroy All said:

    I assume you're comparing this with the Fevola/Bingle thing?

    Big difference.

    Bingle didn't want the photo taken, let alone released to the public. You can see in that picture she is taken by surprise and trying to cover up. Fevola took the photo, Fevola spread it.

    How, bet they didn't want the photos coming out regardless of whether they posed for them or not...

    The girl took the photos. The girl distributed them...

    It looks like she is one vindictive piece of work though. Wonder which player it was that obviously broke her heart to the point where she now has to rein down all sorts of carnage on the Saints????

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      On 20/12/2010 at 21:13, Grandson of a gun said:

    How, bet they didn't want the photos coming out regardless of whether they posed for them or not...

    Come on, these guys invited this upon themselves - 100%. Any adult capable of reasonable/rational thought knows that if you allow nude photos of yourself to be taken that there's a very high probability of them coming out, regardless of how much you trust the photographer. Especially when you're a public figure.

    My executive summary of the situation:

    Girl: spiteful, nasty piece of work with clear issues.

    Footballers: Complete idiots for putting themselves in such a stupid, compromising position.

    Everyone loses. Well done, everyone.

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    Riewoldt has stated that the photo's were taken in Miami over 12 months ago, by a teammate (Sam). He asked then and there that it be deleted. Were taken after getting out of bed.... - press conference (now)

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      On 20/12/2010 at 21:13, Grandson of a gun said:

    Girl says she took them herself...

    How, bet they didn't want the photos coming out regardless of whether they posed for them or not...

    The girl took the photos. The girl distributed them...

    It looks like she is one vindictive piece of work though. Wonder which player it was that obviously broke her heart to the point where she now has to rein down all sorts of carnage on the Saints????

    Yeah nah, she didn't take the photos.

    And if she did, which she didn't, the players would be penis-in-hand posing for a 16 year old girl to take photos. Your argument still wouldn't look any better.

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    I've seen much worse photos of AFL footballers & normal people alike.

    The key is to not let it get released into a public forum.

    I think the girl probably has grounds to feel some angst towards these players, but I think she lacks a bit of insight into what it will achieve for her personally.

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      On 20/12/2010 at 21:13, Grandson of a gun said:

    Girl says she took them herself...

    How, bet they didn't want the photos coming out regardless of whether they posed for them or not...

    The girl took the photos. The girl distributed them...

    Distributed them yes, but took them?... well it would seem the jury is out on that one. The St Kilda CEO seems to think that is not the case:

    "St Kilda CEO Michael Nettlefold told 3AW he believed at least one of the photos had been taken by a teammate on a football trip up to 14 months ago.

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    It looks like she is one vindictive piece of work though. Wonder which player it was that obviously broke her heart to the point where she now has to rein down all sorts of carnage on the Saints????

    There is absolutely no argument there re vindictive, but if you read the article in the Age I pointed to, you will find the answer to your question.

    I think there may be a few nervous CEOs (ours included) about at the moment as she also makes the following claim:

    "She admitted her actions were based on revenge, and said she had photographs of other AFL players. ''There are players from other clubs: West Coast, Sydney, Collingwood, Richmond, Hawthorn and few of Melbourne. They are of a similar nature to the first one that came out."

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      On 20/12/2010 at 23:00, Range Rover said:

    Poor old Nicky Dal's going to be in for some serious on-field sledging next year.

    from an article on computer.....

    """" ...........Duthie also told Australian radio networks that she has up to 21 photos of other Aussie Rules players.

    'There are players from other clubs: West Coast, Sydney, Collingwood, Richmond, Hawthorn and few of Melbourne]. They are of a similar nature to the first one that came out,'' Kim Duthie said in a telephone interview.

    ''I will not stop until I am satisfied; it's basically just about getting revenge.''............""""

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    From the press conference, Reiwoldt claims they were taken by Gilbert. One can only assume they were donwloaded onto Gilberts computer and this girl has found them on there (is he the ex-boyfriend)?

    Hardtack and DA, i will get on the front foot and take Reiwoldt at his word, that the photos weren't taken by her, but by Gilbert. I withdraw any argument in relation to that.

    Did Gilbert know this girl had obtained the photo's from the computer? I won't be so quick to shoot off but either he did and i'm sure he asked her to get rid of them or he didn't know in which case she stole them with the intent of using them down the track.

    It doesn't change the circumstances of their release or the actions of this girl...

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    This is what happens when you get too many dumb people together.

    The girl needs help, and is a serious pest. The boys should know better.

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    There's no winners in this. It's spread like wildfire, much like the Fev/Bingle incident.

    Should there be hefty penalties for this sort of thing ?

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      On 20/12/2010 at 23:20, High Tower said:

    There's no winners in this. It's spread like wildfire, much like the Fev/Bingle incident.

    Should there be hefty penalties for this sort of thing ?

    Civilly she could be in a bit of strife. Criminally there is nothing

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      On 20/12/2010 at 23:22, dandeeman said:

    Civilly she could be in a bit of strife. Criminally there is nothing

    Without any moralising, this is just a sign of the times we live in, both with respect to attitudes and availability of technology

    Jerry Springer et al have a lot to answer for

    Expect to see a lot more of this sort of stuff in future, and yes at some stage it will visit itself upon the MFC

    As an aside, check her twitter its_k_isabella and look at the list of followers. Some interesting personalities (yes, our Shane is there).

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      On 20/12/2010 at 23:35, daisycutter said:

    As an aside, check her twitter its_k_isabella and look at the list of followers. Some interesting personalities (yes, our Shane is there).

    You can tell by her tweets and responses to followers questions that she intends to milk this 15 minutes for all it's worth.

    Worse is that she seems to have supporters who are egging her on.

    A seriously troubled young girl.

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    She used to go out with Sam Gilbert and was alleged to have got pregnant by him. According to Roo, the photos were apparently on SG's computer.

    A bit more worrying is Nicky Dal playing with his wang?!!!

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      On 20/12/2010 at 23:54, jnrmac said:

    A bit more worrying is Nicky Dal playing with his wang?!!!

    That shouldn't be too worrying. As they say, 98% of men masturbate and the other 2% are liars!

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      On 20/12/2010 at 23:40, Range Rover said:

    A seriously troubled young girl.

    Maybe, but she is not alone. Many more of her ilk out there (worrying)

    Not to mention many players (and other "celebrities") a few chops short of a bbq

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      On 20/12/2010 at 23:35, daisycutter said:

    As an aside, check her twitter its_k_isabella and look at the list of followers. Some interesting personalities (yes, our Shane is there).

    delta ? lindsay lohan ?? sandra sully ? what the..

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      On 21/12/2010 at 00:13, Grimes to Watts said:

    delta ? lindsay lohan ?? sandra sully ? what the..

    I was more thinking Kevin Rudd, Shane Warne, Mick Malthouse, Dane Swan, Travis Cloke, Dale Thomas

    Wonder why they have to register as followers where everyone can see them, when they can just check it via internet anonomously? SFB. And Kevin Rudd WTF!

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      On 20/12/2010 at 19:45, Rhino Richards said:

    Agree. So why make the connection with Lovett??

    They didn't and he didn't.

    His actions were deplorable and the fallout made his position completely untenable. Lovett is no saint...on a number of fronts.

    Agree.

    This is another media storm in a teacup giving airtime to people who least earn it.

    lovett is innocent until proven guilty. and since you just said we dont know.....how can you claim to know about lovett too?

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