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I guess I just have high hopes we'll get a quality KPF with pick 12, which I see as necessary.

Mundy, whilst a gun, is not necessary as we already have the makings of a decent midfield.

If we do get him, I will be over the moon.

But i think our priorities lie elsewhere.

Didn't we just pick a quality KPF with Pick 1 a couple of years ago??

Success in football isn't determined by who has the most tall players in the forward line. Plenty of teams below even us on the ladder have a clutch of 'quality KPFs'. Year in, year out, the Premiership is won by the best midfield with a strong defence. A great, big, tall forward line is worth nothing without a top level midfield delivering the ball to it. Our midfield is currently full of potential, but history shows that not all of that potential is going to be realised.

Mundy has realised his potential and is now ready to click into the prime of his career. It would be sensational to have such a quality player added to our young group right now.

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we need to keep pick 12. The more young talent we get the better. Player and higher pick would be the go for Mundy.

Why do you view it as more important to pick up young(er) (potential) talent over young (proven) talent???

Every year the 1st round spits out some absolute donkeys (especially talls) whereas with Mundy we know that we're getting exactly the quality of player we would hope a 1st round pick develops into. No risk, all reward.

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Calton looking to involve Mundy as part of a three way trade with Adelaide - involving Walker/Jacobs to Adelaide.

Obviously picks would have to be attached to even it all out.

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Calton looking to involve Mundy as part of a three way trade with Adelaide - involving Walker/Jacobs to Adelaide.

Obviously picks would have to be attached to even it all out.

If Carlton get Mundy I'll be inconsolable.

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Griffin wants to leave Adelaide to go back to WA too, and WC won't have room in the ruck along with NicNat and Cox.

Griffin and a pick to Freo.

I'd be surprised if this doesn't happen, but I thought it more likely to be Tarrant involved.

Maybe both will end up with the blues.

I'm not prepared to lose Bennell either.

I think he is "flag-core" and a rare type of player.

Allen Iverson in AFL.

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I don't think we'll use pick 12 on a KPP even if we keep it. In fact, I'd be very surprised if we did. If we go for one it'll likely be later in the draft.

Mundy is a quality player. Big body, wins contested footy, carries the ball and a penetrating kick. I'm happy we're going after him because, aside from is obvious quality, he complements our current midfield very well.

But we'll wait and see what happens.

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Didn't we just pick a quality KPF with Pick 1 a couple of years ago??

Success in football isn't determined by who has the most tall players in the forward line. Plenty of teams below even us on the ladder have a clutch of 'quality KPFs'. Year in, year out, the Premiership is won by the best midfield with a strong defence. A great, big, tall forward line is worth nothing without a top level midfield delivering the ball to it. Our midfield is currently full of potential, but history shows that not all of that potential is going to be realised.

Mundy has realised his potential and is now ready to click into the prime of his career. It would be sensational to have such a quality player added to our young group right now.

ID, I can't remember but I think Mundy is 25?

Assuming that's right, his career is beyond the halfway point. Young enough, but I would call him young.

Firmly in his prime.

I think, considering the strength of this draft and the prospects available to us, it'd be irresponsible to trade away our first round pick.

Jack Watts may have been drafted as a key forward, but I don't think there's a rule saying you can only have one.

I think we need more. Whether it's with pick 12 or not.

(I do have my heart set on Lynch).

A lot of great premiership teams of recent times have multiple key forwards.

Franklin, Roughead.

Lynch, Bradshaw, Brown.

Hird, Lloyd, Lucas.

Last year the saints almost took it with Kosi & Riewoldt.

Personally I discount WC and Sydney because I believe they won in times when there weren't any great strong teams.

Geelong is a notable exception, and maybe that is the way the game is going.

(more about ball movement and mobile types - Johnson, Mooney, Varcoe, Stokes...)

For us, I see Watts, Morton and one more, being the key to our forward line.


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Maybe that would be Mundy?

And yes this all flies in the face of my "best available" mantra.

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ID, I can't remember but I think Mundy is 25?

Assuming that's right, his career is beyond the halfway point. Young enough, but I would call him young.

Firmly in his prime.

I think, considering the strength of this draft and the prospects available to us, it'd be irresponsible to trade away our first round pick.

Jack Watts may have been drafted as a key forward, but I don't think there's a rule saying you can only have one.

I think we need more. Whether it's with pick 12 or not.

(I do have my heart set on Lynch).

A lot of great premiership teams of recent times have multiple key forwards.

Franklin, Roughead.

Lynch, Bradshaw, Brown.

Hird, Lloyd, Lucas.

Last year the saints almost took it with Kosi & Riewoldt.

Personally I discount WC and Sydney because I believe they won in times when there weren't any great strong teams.

Geelong is a notable exception, and maybe that is the way the game is going.

(more about ball movement and mobile types - Johnson, Mooney, Varcoe, Stokes...)

For us, I see Watts, Morton and one more, being the key to our forward line.

Perhaps Liam Jurrah might be the one more??? The bloke kicks two goals a game, is 6' 1 1/2" and just took Mark of the Year. I reckon he stacks up pretty well as a key forward.

Not forgetting that we have Dunn & Bate at 6'3". Both of whom are first round picks let's not forget.

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Yeah, I just feel like we need another real BIG in the forward line.

Fitzpatrick might even be that bloke.

As AoB said, we probably won't even take a tall with pick 12 if we keep it.

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don't understand your comment re defence i.e. . . . bluechip. . top 4 . . battlers

Did you mean to say they are "blue chip" or "blue collar"?

Care to reword?

Oh [censored], sorry, yeah, blue collar I meant...

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Didn't we just pick a quality KPF with Pick 1 a couple of years ago??

Success in football isn't determined by who has the most tall players in the forward line. Plenty of teams below even us on the ladder have a clutch of 'quality KPFs'. Year in, year out, the Premiership is won by the best midfield with a strong defence. A great, big, tall forward line is worth nothing without a top level midfield delivering the ball to it. Our midfield is currently full of potential, but history shows that not all of that potential is going to be realised.

Mundy has realised his potential and is now ready to click into the prime of his career. It would be sensational to have such a quality player added to our young group right now.

Oh, Bulldogs structure ring any Bells?

You certainly don't want to go too big and lose mobility & pace & defensive pressure. But the Leadup forward role of Riewoldt who cam roam with a big tank to push back deep is Fantstic.

Add to that someone like a Mooney or a Dawes as the second tall, then Sylvia, Jurrah on the flank, Green or Petterd, Wonnaemirri, then I think wer'e getting close.

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Just read that (1) Melbourne based club has pulled out of the race for Mundy because of the price he's asking for. From memory MFC has said the same thing about a player we were chasing in the last few years? so I wonder if this is us that has pulled out the race.

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Mundy would be good but expensive, I say have a crack but the price still has to be reasonable.

Trade, not for picks, but trade & offer him a big wage packet. But Not picks, player or players.


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Haha, after all the speculation....

Probably just his manager telling the club that if they did not offer a good enough deal Mundy would be happy to go back to Victoria... not that he necessarily wanted to go...

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Haha, after all the speculation....

Probably just his manager telling the club that if they did not offer a good enough deal Mundy would be happy to go back to Victoria... not that he necessarily wanted to go...

This player is becoming a "professional" negotiator via the media - he is a recidivist teaser.

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