Patience. The baby is kicking....

  On 22/05/2010 at 05:21, Enforcer25 said:

parlez vous francais?

Yeah, I knew it was Latin but unfortunately not one of my strong points.

The extent of my Latin is "carpe diem", "caveat emptor", "et tu Jcb"

and "ad infinitum" (in reference to Miller dropping marks).

out of interest, for those who do know Latin, would "carpe nox" be correct for "seize the night"?

Ive been unable to get a definite translation.

Playing with dictionaries I've come across nox, notcum among others

nox : is night

carpe is the infinit - so you are "to seize"

Which is correct.

So Carpe Nox - does exactly match "to sieze the night"

Given there are never exact translations between english and grammar I would say that would work.

  On 22/05/2010 at 13:15, Darkhorse72 said:

nox : is night

carpe is the infinit - so you are "to seize"

Which is correct.

So Carpe Nox - does exactly match "to sieze the night"

Given there are never exact translations between english and grammar I would say that would work.

um no,

carpe is the imperative mood of carpere - a command.

latin doesn't use the infinit to express purpose (going to london to see the queen would not be videre)

but who give a continental - what a great win!

lol

I was thinking it a a command in context - to go and seize the night

oh yeah, its too late and the heart is still racing after that game.

  On 22/05/2010 at 13:08, Rojik of the Arctic said:

Calling Mr Matthews.... Calling Mr Matthews....

Lethal are you there? We need a comment.

Good one Rojik. Watts is going to be a super star, no worries. I couldn't help comparing the MAN out there today with the skinny schoolboy last year. He is so skilful and mature. What quick hands he has.

  On 22/05/2010 at 12:49, RalphiusMaximus said:

Did he touch the ball in the last quarter?

Yes, he did. He'll put up his feet tonight as will alot of others. Couple of handballs I think. 18 possessions, 2 goals, few assists. Sure ball handling in a difficult night given the humid conditions. Fwiw, better return than Melksham's return last week for his nomination.

  On 22/05/2010 at 14:30, bobby mckenzie said:

Good one Rojik. Watts is going to be a super star, no worries. I couldn't help comparing the MAN out there today with the skinny schoolboy last year. He is so skilful and mature. What quick hands he has.

I have spent 18 months defending that kid from the uneducated trolls on other forums and, while I always knew I was right in what I was seeing, it is bloody nice to be vindicated. Without looking closely at the replay I reckon he was a prime mover in around seven goals tonight.

Damn he will look good surrounded by Jurrah, Bate, Petterd and whoever gets small role.

Lookin' very good for the future boys.

  On 22/05/2010 at 12:49, RalphiusMaximus said:

Did he touch the ball in the last quarter? I only had radio and I don't think I heard his name mentioned once. Not that I would blame him in those conditions given that he still lacks a little fitness. Still, he seems to have had a hell of a game. Two goals and a bunch of assists.

I watched only the last quarter and saw a bit from Watts. Somew good pressure to force a throw in at one point. Also some good handballs.

  On 22/05/2010 at 12:49, RalphiusMaximus said:

Did he touch the ball in the last quarter? I only had radio and I don't think I heard his name mentioned once. Not that I would blame him in those conditions given that he still lacks a little fitness. Still, he seems to have had a hell of a game. Two goals and a bunch of assists.

He also spent a fair amount of time on the bench in the last quarter. I was sitting behind the bench and it looked like he was itching to get on. But maybe fitness is an issue. Not sure, but he played very well last night. Perhaps dropped a few marks due to being pushed off the ball a couple of times, but I have no doubt that as his body thickens he will start to hold those and then we will really see a dominant player. Until that time he more than holds his place with his sur hands at ground level, ability to find time and space and clever use of the ball.

We are certainly starting to see what young Jack is capable of. He is wonderfully clean below his knees and he has the ability to find teammates in traffic as well as bring them into the game when he contests the ball in the air. He is indeed highly talented. All that remains for Jack is to continue to improve his mental application, particularly in his attack on the contested ground ball and the man with possession. Much of this will come with more experience, physical development and the associated confidence this will bring.

Very, very exciting.

  On 23/05/2010 at 00:14, pringle said:

He also spent a fair amount of time on the bench in the last quarter. I was sitting behind the bench and it looked like he was itching to get on. But maybe fitness is an issue. Not sure, but he played very well last night. Perhaps dropped a few marks due to being pushed off the ball a couple of times, but I have no doubt that as his body thickens he will start to hold those and then we will really see a dominant player. Until that time he more than holds his place with his sur hands at ground level, ability to find time and space and clever use of the ball.

It is very early of course, but it appears to me that the only real things he lacks are physical presence and reading of the play. Both are going to develop through age and experience. So we are gonna have a beauty IMO.

I thought he was great! Competed all night. Kicked & assisted goals. Will only get better. Much to look forward too!

Rising nomination for sure I would think!

  On 23/05/2010 at 00:14, pringle said:

He also spent a fair amount of time on the bench in the last quarter. I was sitting behind the bench and it looked like he was itching to get on. But maybe fitness is an issue. Not sure, but he played very well last night. Perhaps dropped a few marks due to being pushed off the ball a couple of times, but I have no doubt that as his body thickens he will start to hold those and then we will really see a dominant player. Until that time he more than holds his place with his sur hands at ground level, ability to find time and space and clever use of the ball.

There was an incident with a head clash (not sure whether it was the end of the 3rd or start of the 4th) where he stayed down for a little bit and I didn't see him much after that. apparently got two touches in the last.

  On 23/05/2010 at 00:28, Choko said:

It is very early of course, but it appears to me that the only real things he lacks are physical presence and reading of the play. Both are going to develop through age and experience. So we are gonna have a beauty IMO.

i don't think he reads the play badly, he found space quite a number of times, and in other games i have seen he has found space and hasn't been used. I put this down to unfamiliarity between himself and the other players. remember that he was only at the club once a week last year and missed a fair bit of pre-season. give them time and they will start to kick it to where jack watts is.

physical presence is a concern i have had as well, but his ability to win contested marks last week and the way he brought the ball to ground a few times last night made me think that this wont be a problem as he puts on a bit more weight.

2 goals 4 assists (one of those was a magnificent pick up off the ground and a bullet hand ball to a running forward)

Jack "charlie" Watts earnt his pay last night you bet. The Bentleigh club crew certainly approved!!!

  On 22/05/2010 at 11:02, eth38 said:

FROM THE ETERNAL

I bet I know more Latin than Jack Watts...but then again, unfortunately I learn Latin D:

Maybe not!

They still teach Latin at Brighton Grammar School!

  On 23/05/2010 at 00:32, jungle dee said:

I thought he was great! Competed all night. Kicked & assisted goals. Will only get better. Much to look forward too!

Rising nomination for sure I would think!

Got my fingers crossed for Jack to get the nomination this week but i think it might go to Dustin Martin just because he's played most games this season and got 23 disposals.

Hopefully the goals and goal assists get our Jack over the line.

I bet the Nik Nat fans will be starting to go quiet. The boy is showing the goods, hungry and on the improve.

  On 23/05/2010 at 01:46, killawatts said:

Got my fingers crossed for Jack to get the nomination this week but i think it might go to Dustin Martin just because he's played most games this season and got 23 disposals.

Hopefully the goals and goal assists get our Jack over the line.

Grant from the bulldogs will be in the mix for a nomination this week as well.

I think the questions about his football ability were answered last night and I think the question "who is the better footballer" was also answered.

  On 23/05/2010 at 06:33, furious d said:

Grant from the bulldogs will be in the mix for a nomination this week as well.

I like the look of Grant.

Not too dissimilar to Watts, although I think Watts has greater scope to be a star.

He'll be a gun for the doggies - they are one of the teams we really need to watch out for in the coming years.

F/S pick in Wallis & Libba when other teams are drafting scraps will see their time at the top extended.

  On 22/05/2010 at 05:21, Enforcer25 said:

out of interest, for those who do know Latin, would "carpe nox" be correct for "seize the night"?

Ive been unable to get a definite translation.

Playing with dictionaries I've come across nox, notcum among others

I think it would be "carpe noctem" - accusative.

anyone starting to draw lines between watts and riewoldt?

watts played up the ground as well as being a large target up forward.

i reckon watts will be better than riewoldt in future tho, big call but i can see it through his attributes

With the sort of domination we are seeing from Naitanui, with a 9 disposal game today, surely he has the Rising Star award all stitched up.

I mean who could possibly better 9 touches and 67% efficiency? The man is already a superstar*

*Please note, the man may well become a superstar, but he hasn't shown more promise than Watts has thus far.

Watts > Naitanui

Only those without any ability to assess football would disagree.

What we've seen from Watts so far is a brilliant ability at ground level, quick hands, strong contested marking and hard running. What we've also seen is a lack of AFL match fitness and a tendency to lead at the wrong time/place, but those are easily fixable.

What we've seen from Naitanui is the ability to do some freakish things (like jump over six foot tall men and run faster than them too). What we've also seen is a lack of football skills, which will take time and might not be ultimately fixable.

Please. Watts will clearly be a better player than the most over-rated player there's ever been.

  On 23/05/2010 at 10:58, Jaded said:

With the sort of domination we are seeing from Naitanui, with a 9 disposal game today, surely he has the Rising Star award all stitched up.

I mean who could possibly better 9 touches and 67% efficiency? The man is already a superstar*

I've seen Naitanui play two good games this year, both against Essendon at Subiaco and one was in the NAB Cup. If his current form remains for the rest of the season and he wins the Rising Star you know the competition is rigged.