Jack Grimes (2009) vs Chris Judd (2002)

[R.I.P. Troy 185]

Grimes(09) vs Judd(02)

Games 11 vs 22

Kicks per game 12.2 vs 10.1

Handballs per game 8.4 vs 5.0

Disposals per game 20.6 vs 15.0

Marks per game 8.6 vs 2.2

[Bruce Almighty 0]

Grimes(09) vs Judd(02)

Games 11 vs 22

Kicks per game 12.2 vs 10.1

Handballs per game 8.4 vs 5.0

Disposals per game 20.6 vs 15.0

Marks per game 8.6 vs 2.2

if you were going to compare you should compare grimes 09 to judd 03 as it was both there second seasons, also i dont think stats that are 6 years apart can determine anything considering how much the game has changed

[45HG 1,539]

Unfortunately they do lie, but Grimes will be a gun rest assured.

[sylvia12 0]

stats are liars!

[Gorgoroth 12,947]

Can't compare them, Judd was playing midfield not half back, you would need to have same amoutn of ground time, same positions etc and in 03 the game was a less possession style game.

[sylvia12 0]

cool!

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,780]

Interesting stats. And also, it's relevant that Jack's been plagued by injury which has made him miss games, whereas "the gouger" seems to play week after week, despite early O.P.

Worthwhile post, RIP Troy!

[volders 22]

contested possessions? goals? clearances?

also @bruce i wouldn't really call this grimes 'seconds season' since he playes ONE game in 2008

but seriously, he will be a star.

[Ryan Dee 140]

Judd is a dirty dog, Grimes is not.

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

Jack grew up a demon and is living the dream

Judd grew up a demon and is living the nightmare

JG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>CJ

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

contested possessions? goals? clearances?

also @bruce i wouldn't really call this grimes 'seconds season' since he playes ONE game in 2008

but seriously, he will be a star.

You have to though. A LOT of difference between a teenager who's been at the club only a few month, to a player who's had a full 12 months to get settled. Not so much about games played, as preseasons.

[jnrmac 20,058]

Grimes payed ONE game last year. I'd hardly call it his second season.

[w00dy 146]

this is a ridiculous sort of comparison... watch...

Newton(07) vs Franklin(05)

Games 10 vs 20

Kicks per game 8.3 vs 7.0

Handballs per game 2.0 vs 3.7

Disposals per game 10.3 vs 10.7

Marks per game 4.1 vs 3.7

Goals Per game 1.4 vs 1.1

now don't tell me you think Juice is going to be as good as Buddy Franklin... I'm a Juice fan, but I know this comparison is silly...

Edited September 10, 2009 by vanlo

[Jurrah Coffee 0]

this is a ridiculous sort of comparison... watch...

Newton(07) vs Franklin(05)

Games 10 vs 20

Kicks per game 8.3 vs 7.0

Handballs per game 2.0 vs 3.7

Disposals per game 10.3 vs 10.7

Marks per game 4.1 vs 3.7

Goals Per game 1.4 vs 1.1

now don't tell me you think Juice is going to be as good as Buddy Franklin... I'm a Juice fan, but I know this comparison is silly...

Juice will never be close to the level of Buddy Franklin, Juice's goal kicking is awful and cost us the Adelaide game in R5.

[Guest delicious jurrah coffee]

i just wasted 30 seconds of my life.

[LITTLE STINGA 1]

Juice will never be close to the level of Buddy Franklin, Juice's goal kicking is awful and cost us the Adelaide game in R5.

Buddy is a dead eye dick is he? Juice will never be close to the level of Buddy cause Buddy is 100 times stronger, faster, mobile and smarter than Newton. Buddy has plenty of strengths goal kicking is not one of them.

[H_T 3,043]

Buddy is a dead eye dick is he? Juice will never be close to the level of Buddy cause Buddy is 100 times stronger, faster, mobile and smarter than Newton.

Agree on Newton never being close to Buddy's level.

Buddy has plenty of strengths goal kicking is not one of them.

Is that in terms of straight set shots?

Because last year he kicked over 100 goals, this year he's kicked over 60, I'd say goal kicking is one of his strengths. Certainly stronger than alot of other AFL players.

[Little Goffy 14,521]

If you want a truly awesome comparison of teenage years, you can't go past Cale Morton

2008 - 18.4 disposals, 6.2 marks, 0.6 goals, 1 tackle a game, 19 games all up.

2009 - 22.7 disposals, 7.0 marks, 0.4 goals, 1.4 tackles a game, 21 games.

Brock Mclean got 9 brownlow votes in his second season, still a teenager.

Nathan Jones's 17.4 disposals and 4.1 tackles a game arnt him 5 browlow votes in his final 'teenage' year.

Several other player's stats were better than Judd's first year, including Cheney and Bate, who were playing with the additional challenge of red hair.

Liam Jurrah's stats across all aspects are the best debut year stats for a tall forward in a couple of decades, for what it's worth.

Edited September 11, 2009 by Distance Demon

[cat attack 26]

If you want a truly awesome comparison of teenage years, you can't go past Cale Morton

2008 - 18.4 disposals, 6.2 marks, 0.6 goals, 1 tackle a game, 19 games all up.

2009 - 22.7 disposals, 7.0 marks, 0.4 goals, 1.4 tackles a game, 21 games.

Brock Mclean got 9 brownlow votes in his second season, still a teenager.

Nathan Jones's 17.4 disposals and 4.1 tackles a game arnt him 5 browlow votes in his final 'teenage' year.

Several other player's stats were better than Judd's first year, including Cheney and Bate, who were playing with the additional challenge of red hair.

Liam Jurrah's stats across all aspects are the best debut year stats for a tall forward in a couple of decades, for what it's worth.

so whats your point?