Pick or Schmick - Is it a Priority?

[Axis of Bob 11,836]

In 1998 Brisbane finished last with 5 wins. Hence there was no priority pick in 1998.

The draft was absolute rubbish that year, so it's no wonder that nobody tanked!!

[old55 23,613]

I think we've established that he was a PP. Thanks Fan.

Now scroll up a year to 1998 and tell me what it says next to Des Headland's name ?

I'll wait by the computer.

Two errors in two pages, I'd be looking for a better source.

[H_T 3,049]

They chose Croad over pick One.

Just on the early pick(s) - say we get 1 and 3 or whatever. Are you of the opinion to utilise both picks during draft because I am. Some posters are looking at current players with the view to swapping picks as well. I would rather a Scully and Trengove or Morabito or Rohan. Just my two bobs worth.

[45HG 1,539]

I'd be chosing the two most talented players in the draft.

I do not profess to be any kind of expert, so I will not forcefully express my opinion, but what I've heard of Trengove (and the limited amount I've seen) he would be my preference but I also doubt he will still be available at pick 3, all the more reason to list manage.

Have never seen Morabito so I cannot comment, but I am certainly of the opinion that we should aim for the best youth in the country so they may mature as a group together, rather than selecting a player from another club.

[e25 5]

Just on the early pick(s) - say we get 1 and 3 or whatever. Are you of the opinion to utilise both picks during draft because I am. Some posters are looking at current players with the view to swapping picks as well. I would rather a Scully and Trengove or Morabito or Rohan. Just my two bobs worth.

Teams that trade draft picks for established players rarely get the better end of the deal.

The only one I can think of is the Judd trade.

No trading picks.

[sylvinator 96]

Teams that trade draft picks for established players rarely get the better end of the deal.

The only one I can think of is the Judd trade.

No trading picks.

Disagree......... draft picks are often gambles, especially third round picks of lower. A clever trade for a player for a pick outside the top 10 can work out very well.

Examples:

- Darren Jolly for pick 14---- pick 14= Lynden Dunn, struggling to make the bottom team's starting 22, Jolly superstar ruckman probably All Australian for 09

- Farren Ray for third round pick

- Ryce Shaw for 3 round pick... Shaw currently in all australian form and gets a tight tag every week these days

I'm sure there are hundreds of others

[old55 23,613]

Disagree......... draft picks are often gambles, especially third round picks of lower. A clever trade for a player for a pick outside the top 10 can work out very well.

Examples:

- Darren Jolly for pick 14---- pick 14= Lynden Dunn, struggling to make the bottom team's starting 22, Jolly superstar ruckman probably All Australian for 09

- Farren Ray for third round pick

- Ryce Shaw for 3 round pick... Shaw currently in all australian form and gets a tight tag every week these days

I'm sure there are hundreds of others

Ottens, Aker, Scott Thompson ...

[e25 5]

Disagree......... draft picks are often gambles, especially third round picks of lower. A clever trade for a player for a pick outside the top 10 can work out very well.

Examples:

- Darren Jolly for pick 14---- pick 14= Lynden Dunn, struggling to make the bottom team's starting 22, Jolly superstar ruckman probably All Australian for 09

- Farren Ray for third round pick

- Ryce Shaw for 3 round pick... Shaw currently in all australian form and gets a tight tag every week these days

I'm sure there are hundreds of others

How about at the pointy end of the draft..? Cos that's what we're talking about

[John Dee 445]

How about at the pointy end of the draft..? Cos that's what we're talking about

Jeff White for pick 2.

[Vipercrunch 2,827]

Most of those example are for players that wanted to leave and some could have left for nothing if the deal couldn't be done. Therefore the club losing the player most often gets a bad deal.

[Jarka 767]

Jeff White for pick 2.

It was really Jeff White for pick 2 + a 2nd rounder plus pick 4 a couple of years later.

We got screwed big time.

[John Dee 445]

It was really Jeff White for pick 2 + a 2nd rounder plus pick 4 a couple of years later.

We got screwed big time.

Really? Isn't it illegal to trade future picks?

[e25 5]

Really? Isn't it illegal to trade future picks?

Is he talking about us breaking the salary cap to sign him..? I don't remember it all that well

[Rogue 585]

Really? Isn't it illegal to trade future picks?

I think Jarka was referring to our salary cap breach penalty.

It would have been then.

[H_T 3,049]

I'd be chosing the two most talented players in the draft.

I do not profess to be any kind of expert, so I will not forcefully express my opinion, but what I've heard of Trengove (and the limited amount I've seen) he would be my preference but I also doubt he will still be available at pick 3, all the more reason to list manage.

Have never seen Morabito so I cannot comment, but I am certainly of the opinion that we should aim for the best youth in the country so they may mature as a group together, rather than selecting a player from another club.

Totally agree with moulding and maturing the group together. I don't necessarily follow those that profess that because of a "generation gap in our list", that we need to fill that void with age-like players to make amends either.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I think Jarka was referring to our salary cap breach penalty.

It would have been then.

I thought MFC were breaching the salary cap in years prior to 1998 as well as 1998.

[Slartibartfast 17,326]

In 1998 Brisbane finished last with 5 wins. Hence there was no priority pick in 1998.

I hate to get pedantic here but it was five and a half wins. Five wins qualified you for a PP until 2006 when it was reduced to 4 wins and you had to qualify two years in a row to get a first round PP.

[Hobbits's 17]

Goes to show from the opening post that 9 teams have received priority picks out of the 16 teams in the comp. The likes of Cats, Crows, Power, Bombers, Kangaroos, Swans and Lions can hold their heads high. Always competitive and tanking is not an option for them!

Hawthorn...................3

Carlton......................3

Western Bulldogs........2

StKilda.......................2

Collingwood................2

Melbourne..................2

Richmond...................1

West Coast.................1

Fremantle...................1

[Slartibartfast 17,326]

Goes to show from the opening post that 9 teams have received priority picks out of the 16 teams in the comp. The likes of Cats, Crows, Power, Bombers, Kangaroos, Swans and Lions can hold their heads high. Always competitive and tanking is not an option for them!

I disagree.

Geelong have had many father son's which have been a huge free kick. Ablett and Scarlett are two.

Crows, Power, Swans and Lions have had assistance outside the normal draft.

Bombers and Kanga's have done well on this point.

[IWAP 170]

I disagree.

Geelong have had many father son's which have been a huge free kick. Ablett and Scarlett are two.

Crows, Power, Swans and Lions have had assistance outside the normal draft.

Bombers and Kanga's have done well on this point.

Essendon also tanked in 2006 to get the priority pick after the first round

[old55 23,613]

Bombers and Kanga's have done well on this point.

and I'm tipping no flag in the next 10 years for either

[e25 5]

Essendon also tanked in 2006 to get the priority pick after the first round

hAahaha who did that get them? and where is he now??

Surely a case AGAINST tanking, that one.

Edited July 31, 2009 by Enforcer25

[H_T 3,049]

and I'm tipping no flag in the next 10 years for either

Massive call on the Bombers. Agree with kangaroos.

[John Dee 445]

Massive call on the Bombers. Agree with kangaroos.

Essendon have big problems coming up; Lloyd, Lucas, Fletcher and the like will be leaving just as GC and WS come in.

[Guest JACKtheRIPPER]

only a fool would write off the EFC.