btdemon 482 Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Check this. Does it bother anyone else that the quote infers that they haven't yet spoken to Watts, Frawley, Sylvia or gawn's management? "Neeld said Melbourne fans should rest assured that the club was leaving no stone unturned in its efforts to retain all three former first-round draft picks as well as securing the Demons' young stars of the future. "We'll go and speak to their managers and see what they're thinking and speak to those players and continue to speak to them like all clubs," he said. "We'll follow down that path, but… when we've got something concrete to say we'll offer it." http://www.melbournetimesweekly.com.au/story/1522036/neeld-readies-as-rival-clubs-circle-demons/?cs=12 Edited May 24, 2013 by btdemon 1
Kenny Powers 90 Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 I hope Jack leaves and finds form at another club, no sarcasm in my thoughts. He needs a fresh start, unfortunately he cops too much of the MFC supporters frustration. Good luck Jack
Kenny Powers 90 Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 I suppose nobody else has read this. Puts it all in a bit more perspective. As I said earlier, the article saying Watts wants out is nothing more than speculation citing other speculative pieces as sources. It has no real value other than [censored]-stirring. Typical bored lazy journalism at the HS. I don't believe journo's speculate!!!! Sarcasm aside good points
Dee1987 277 Posted May 24, 2013 Posted May 24, 2013 Whatever we do we must not trade for picks! End of story! Target seasoned players like Rich, Prestia etc. 1
jazza 1,323 Posted May 25, 2013 Posted May 25, 2013 Check this. Does it bother anyone else that the quote infers that they haven't yet spoken to Watts, Frawley, Sylvia or gawn's management? "Neeld said Melbourne fans should rest assured that the club was leaving no stone unturned in its efforts to retain all three former first-round draft picks as well as securing the Demons' young stars of the future. "We'll go and speak to their managers and see what they're thinking and speak to those players and continue to speak to them like all clubs," he said. "We'll follow down that path, but… when we've got something concrete to say we'll offer it." http://www.melbournetimesweekly.com.au/story/1522036/neeld-readies-as-rival-clubs-circle-demons/?cs=12 no bother at all, i thought neeld spoke quite well on the subject first time ive seen him looking relaxed as a matter of fact, so maybe everythings starting to fall into place love the last line we"ll follow. big tick from me because just maybe the fd is finally in charge of the fd.
Dr. Gonzo 24,468 Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 I suppose nobody else has read this. Puts it all in a bit more perspective. As I said earlier, the article saying Watts wants out is nothing more than speculation citing other speculative pieces as sources. It has no real value other than [censored]-stirring. Typical bored lazy journalism at the HS. Neeld could take some pointers from Lyon about how to speak to journos without actually saying anything.
Forest Demon 4,681 Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 If Jack thinks he has it tough from the Melbourne fans, he would be shocked to hear what other clubs' supporters think of him. Melbourne fans stuck up for him a lot in the early years especially.
Gorgoroth 13,220 Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Yeah at other clubs there would be more than 15k supporters turning on him. Imagine half of pattersons stadium turning on him. 1
DeeMfc 621 Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Yeah at other clubs there would be more than 15k supporters turning on him. Imagine half of pattersons stadium turning on him. And that's if they are playing the hometown rivals. It would be 90% of the stadium if it were against an interstate team.
DeeMfc 621 Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 (edited) If Watts 'wants' to leave then we should work hard to make sure we get a suitable trade. Having said that IMO I think Watts is your typical late bloomer. In 2-3 years I see him playing the role Richo played in his last few years at Richmond. (Playing deep, high, left and right forward and running up the ground to provide the support/link up when needed but with better disposal) Edit-typo Edited May 26, 2013 by DeeMfc
daisycutter 30,021 Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 Exactly. The message isn't the issue. The forum this issue is delivered in is the issue. Plain stupid to be honest and i thought so at the time. RPFC's point in the post above that "most of Neelds words in public are poorly worded and haphazard and they get misconstrued constantly" is spot on. He is a head coach a and for any coach (in any sport) being a good communicator is a key competency. There are any number of examples of him making comments that are not clear, the recent one about 5 years being the most recent - a comment that had Mitch Clark perplexed. Its one reason why i think he should stop doing so much media. If your messaging makes things more confusing don't say anything. I wonder whether his poor communication in the media extends to explaining to his players his game plan or what he wants them to do. The on field evidence suggests it does. Much was made of him being a teacher and good teachers also have to be good communicators. I wonder if he was a good teacher? N....e...e...l...d...y.........g...e...t...s...........m...e.........r...e...a...l...l...y.......r...e...v...v...e...d......u...p T...r...o...o...l...y
dazzledavey36 56,334 Posted May 26, 2013 Posted May 26, 2013 I see wattsy making the same impact in the AFL just like Jared Brennan
saka888 54 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Latest i have heard is "2 out of 3 of the aboriginal players at carlton and gibbs will be traded at years end, most likely a gibbs for watts"
jackaub 1,402 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 If Watts 'wants' to leave then we should work hard to make sure we get a suitable trade. Having said that IMO I think Watts is your typical late bloomer. In 2-3 years I see him playing the role Richo played in his last few years at Richmond. (Playing deep, high, left and right forward and running up the ground to provide the support/link up when needed but with better disposal) Edit-typo Yeah great just watt we need !
mdemonski2 403 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 So what is a fair trade for watts. Just when he starts to deliver he makes it pretty clear on footy show tonight he already he has one foot out the door. What is a fair trade, player or pick? For me it has to be a top 10 pick or a decent starting mid.
mdemonski2 403 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Ps don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out and I don't know why I have defended you in the past....I feel violated!
The Song Formerly Known As 6,479 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Please refer to my previous post on D'land to know my feelings on Mr Watts:http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/34625-watts-waiting-on-coaching-appointment/?p=795441 2
Sir Why You Little 37,457 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Bryce Gibbs will be just the same as Jack W. soft. Not a good deal. 2
jackaub 1,402 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 Do not get ANY Carlton players never ever they are softer than our lot
jabberwocky 2,301 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Posted August 15, 2013 It's been four years now. This player represents all that has been wrong with the club. No fire, little drive and no responsibility.
dazzledavey36 56,334 Posted August 15, 2013 Posted August 15, 2013 So out of the two jack watts threads we already have going you had to bump another one to tell us that?
jabberwocky 2,301 Posted August 15, 2013 Author Posted August 15, 2013 So out of the two jack watts threads we already have going you had to bump another one to tell us that? I suppose I could have paraphrased all of the opinions in the thread from 2009 but I think it better that the opinions are presented in their original form. The problems with Jack Watts' game haven't changed since he played his first games at Casey. We now have answers to some of the questions we were asking. I look forward to moving on from discussing this bloke.
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