Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

Note to Steve Quarterbrain -

The word 'chance' is pronounced how it is spelled.

It is not pronounced 'charnce'. There is no R in it.

You sound like a posh [censored].

He is not the only one who says some words like a [censored] either, there are a few other football media type who speak like this. James Brayshaw is another one.

Glad to get that off my chest.

Posted
Note to Steve Quarterbrain -

The word 'chance' is pronounced how it is spelled.

It is not pronounced 'charnce'. There is no R in it.

You sound like a posh [censored].

He is not the only one who says some words like a [censored] either, there are a few other football media type who speak like this. James Brayshaw is another one.

Glad to get that off my chest.

As in 'Charnce' Bateman...

Posted

Note to Steve Quarterbrain -

The word 'chance' is pronounced how it is spelled.

It is not pronounced 'charnce'. There is no R in it.

There doesn’t need to be the letter “r” in it. It has nothing to do with adding a consonant to the word. It’s related to the vowel sound you make when you voice the word. The letter “a” can be voiced in a variety of ways (think of the difference between area, around, after and cat).

In the word “chance” it is possible to pronounce the sound as a short vowel (/ae/ as in “cat”) or as a long vowel (/a:/ as in “car” – we don’t actually voice the “r”, only the vowel sound). Our alphabet is not phonetic – we do not have enough characters to represent each possible phoneme, hence English is riddled with words and combinations of letters that can sound different to the way in which they are written. All Steven Quatermain is doing is voicing the long vowel as opposed to the short vowel. Both are completely acceptable forms of the word.

If you don’t like the sound, so be it, but don’t go claiming those who voice the /a:/ are somehow misreading and mispronouncing the word. All that shows is your lack of linguistic comprehension and your prejudice.

Posted

You signed up just to post that?

I think there is a good 'charnce' you speak in that annoying manner and have taken offense.

Posted

"There doesn’t need to be the letter “r” in it. It has nothing to do with adding a consonant to the word. It’s related to the vowel sound you make when you voice the word. The letter “a” can be voiced in a variety of ways (think of the difference between area, around, after and cat).

In the word “chance” it is possible to pronounce the sound as a short vowel (/ae/ as in “cat”) or as a long vowel (/a:/ as in “car” – we don’t actually voice the “r”, only the vowel sound). Our alphabet is not phonetic – we do not have enough characters to represent each possible phoneme, hence English is riddled with words and combinations of letters that can sound different to the way in which they are written. All Steven Quatermain is doing is voicing the long vowel as opposed to the short vowel. Both are completely acceptable forms of the word.

If you don’t like the sound, so be it, but don’t go claiming those who voice the /a:/ are somehow misreading and mispronouncing the word. All that shows is your lack of linguistic comprehension and your prejudice. "

That is the Best First up Replies i have Read! My Keyboard almost got covered in coffee!! (So close) Y.M. will be seething!! hehe

Posted

I take no offence cos I know you're just trying to wind people up.

I pronounce 'chance' exactly the same as Quarters, even if i think he's a massive tool.

I remember Dipper introduced him to me once and when I wasn't obviously impressed he repeated his name slowly and tried to shake my hand again. Idiot.

I pronounce it the same as the british do. They did invent the language after all...

Edit: Brilliant shutdown by Ho Chi Dee. Love your work.


Posted

The great YM has never been owned, and never will.

Fact.

Posted
The great YM has never been owned, and never will.

Fact.

Yeah. Except for that time he was kicked off the site for carrying on like a pork chop.

Never let the facts get in the way of trying to sound self-important. That's the Y_M way.

Posted

Got to agree with Ho Chi Dee. It's a common mistake to think that spelling and pronunciation are always linked. Try 'knife' and 'pneumatic' for starters (a little linguistic joke there for you all). Assuming that looking at the spelling of a word tells you how to say it results in things like people adding an extra syllable at the end of 'temporary' and 'ceremony' or pronouncing the 't' at the end of 'trait'. The science of pronunciation is called orthoepy and it is a complex and thorny area. What makes it harder is that pronunciation in English is an evolutionary thing. We can be sure that we'll be prouncing words differently in a hundred years time ...

Posted

"I think there is a good 'charnce' you speak in that annoying manner and have taken offense."

None taken.

I’m simply of the belief that if your ego feels the need to deliver a harangue, you may as well have some idea of the subject you’re griping about. Unfortunately you appear to have been found wanting in your understanding of the English language as much you have been in your previous examples of football “analysis”.

And for FWIW, I tend to switch between the two pronunciations depending on the context and emphasis required.

Guest petjud
Posted

I just started a topic about Demonology before I read this thread...AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!.....it's a footy forum with the occas, now n' t.......with slight diversions into other things (Hello Rudeboy).......Please leave YM alone...I actually read this board for YM's input........I think his username is hidiing that fact that he is really Rober Mugabe...a slightly ageing, slightly unhinged dictator with an overblown sense of his own importance.......at least he gets topics going...but seriously we need some comedy for light relief...all together now.....'Speak good English like that what I speak'....

Posted
Got to agree with Ho Chi Dee. It's a common mistake to think that spelling and pronunciation are always linked. Try 'knife' and 'pneumatic' for starters (a little linguistic joke there for you all). Assuming that looking at the spelling of a word tells you how to say it results in things like people adding an extra syllable at the end of 'temporary' and 'ceremony' or pronouncing the 't' at the end of 'trait'. The science of pronunciation is called orthoepy and it is a complex and thorny area. What makes it harder is that pronunciation in English is an evolutionary thing. We can be sure that we'll be prouncing words differently in a hundred years time ...

WGAF!


Posted
I can understand why Brayshaw says it that way, because it's how they pronounce it in South Australia.

Greg Champion had a song, to the tune of "LA International Airport", called, not surprisingly, "Adelaide International Airport", which featured the the line:

"I go past the Festival Centre, to charnce a glarnce as darncers prarnce around."

It's a Croweater thing.

As for Quartermain; knobcheese.

Posted

Actually it's from the Old French "cheance" meaning "accident, the falling of dice", in turn from Latin.

The Macquarie says either pronunciation is acceptable. That said, there is defintely a school of thought in Oz

that using the long vowel gives one that little fillip of class.

Posted
Greg Champion had a song, to the tune of "LA International Airport", called, not surprisingly, "Adelaide International Airport", which featured the the line:

"I go past the Festival Centre, to charnce a glarnce as darncers prarnce around."

It's a Croweater thing.

As for Quartermain; knobcheese.

HaHa!!! Adelaide International Airport!! Gotta Love Champs.

Our new Lord Mayor Robert Doyle said a couple of weeks ago that "Adelaide should be shut down!" First time i have fully agreed with him!!

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 3

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...