It seems the guernsey choice is intended as a barometer of old v new.

The white being the pain as the instrument is inserted.

I dont want to choose between the two.

what would he think if you showed him a fitzroy jumper?

He would say who's Fitzroy, You have to admit it is close to a white carlton jumper

they are both fine, option b being the better

stop your whinging all of you- yes we know that essendon and collingwood make slight alterations but who cares

english premier league clubs that have been around the same time (but we're just older!!!) ie man United etc. have totally different colour away/clash strips

they are fine- at the end of the day, we want to be winning footy, and we arent going to play all those teams in an away game to wear it 5 times in the season anyway.

Some of this is about the original sports club being shafted by the AFL Politburo, and dictated to by Filth and Scum. Paranoid?..hell yeh!

If every club would line up in their "whites" for away clashes then I could probably convince myself that the "B" option may, just may, be appropriate.

Look, it seems we must bend over, so we will. It just makes me more determined for the club to be successful so we can get some payback in future.

I'm becoming rabid anti filth/scum/afl.

He would say who's Fitzroy, You have to admit it is close to a white carlton jumper

yeah i understand what you are saying, but that indicates that carlton 'own' the traditional monogram of xfc. most of the old clubs have used it at some point, for something, so the fact that a 7 year old doesnt understand that doesnt bother me too much.

in fact i see it as an opportunity to teach the tacker. show him the carlton monogram and show him how the letters cfc fit together. show him the melbourne one too.

i did a paint job but it is a horrible job, and im not sure how to put it up here anyway lol it could look alright. might need some tuning...

Deanox....had a muck around, strangely the face doesnt hold that well in reverse.....washes away

yeah i understand what you are saying, but that indicates that carlton 'own' the traditional monogram of xfc. most of the old clubs have used it at some point, for something, so the fact that a 7 year old doesnt understand that doesnt bother me too much.

in fact i see it as an opportunity to teach the tacker. show him the carlton monogram and show him how the letters cfc fit together. show him the melbourne one too.

Either way im not to worried, both better than this years jumper and dont worry he will soon learn it, if its the one.

Why doesn't Adelaide's clash jumper need white in it?

1011 votes-

Option A has taken the lead 51%-49%

Option B of those 2.

A is winning, that is a joke. Vote people!

I'm going for A. B is much too like the Carlton monogram. At least A looks a bit frightening.

To be honest I found it as frightening as a lunapark clown.. First time I saw it it looked like Batman in a red leather 'get-up".....

nightmare stuff

There must be better Demons than that ..youd think ..Demons are supposed to be imposing.. a liittle menacing..that one looks just a tad too circumspect !!

That is only my opinion on the two options.

That said, why are we forced to choose a white clash strip? I don't understand why teams like Essendon can get away with their design and we have to come up with something like that (yes, yes a constitution you say). Do the AFL bully the MFC? What other decisions (perhaps recent) have the AFL hand their hand in? I don't know. I can only speculate. Yes, I am sceptical of our relations with the AFL.

The filth don't take any [censored] from the AFL...the scum that is Esssendon don't take any [censored] from the AFL. It is the MFC that shouldn't be taking [censored] from ANYBODY. But, I digress... the MFC have their reasons. The board knows more about our circumstances that anyone us. Maybe we are forced to cut our loses and loose this battle (and a few more to come). I understand that. As long as we win the war.

How much does the AFL pay to keep us afloat each season? I think that is why we will be wearing a white clash jumper..

It is so far from who we are it is disheartening. I voted B none the less.

Well woke up this morning, had another look.

Still like B a bit better but you know what i would choose A's design IF they put a better DEMON on it!

Well woke up this morning, had another look.

Still like B a bit better but you know what i would choose A's design IF they put a better DEMON on it!

totalling agree.... I want the DEMON back but not that demon. ... so will stick to the hertitage MFC :angry:

Why doesn't Adelaide's clash jumper need white in it?

Valid point.

Speaking of points...the AFL say the point of the clash jumper being predominantly white is to avoid a clash.

This is like saying speed cameras are there to save lives..what a crock of [censored].

The truth is, they are both there to raise additional revenue...and that being the case, why is the AFL forcing clubs into the position of manufacturing goods that hardly anyone wants to buy? let alone see.

Clash jumpers...how will you feel when your club makes the grand final, loses the toss and is forced to run out in an insipid "clash" jumper...the very thought of it makes me feel ill.

Why doesn't Adelaide's clash jumper need white in it?

None of the following club's clash/away/alternative strips contain white:

Adelaide - uses red as the predominant colour

Essendon - more red than usual

Port Adelaide - I cheat here because they use silver instead

Richmond - more yellow than usual

West Coast - lighter blue than the home strip

Each of these clubs' regular jumper is predominantly a dark colour (dark blue or black), like Melbourne, which suggests to me that they would clash with similar teams. 2 weeks ago Adelaide played Essendon and wore their clash strip, and there was no clash. So one would assume that a predominantly red jumper for us wouldn't clash either. I don't know why we were told to have white in our jumper. Maybe this isn't the AFL, but it's the club that wants the white.

well from an email i got back from the club they said its a requirement from the AFL to them.

But really guys we cant stop white coming into our alternate jersey, so lets just get on with it and live with it and choose the best jersey we have a choice from.

THE 11th COMMANDMENT: THE OLDEST AFL TEAM IN THE LAND SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CHANGE ITS JUMPER. PERIOD.

Clause 1.1: Every other AFL team shall change accordingly when playing an away game against the Demons.

Away strips DONT need to be white..the AFL prescribes .."light" coloured. Tying them down to anything more descriptive makes catching a muddy pig seem like walk in the park !! <_<

Away strips DONT need to be white..the AFL prescribes .."light" coloured. Tying them down to anything more descriptive makes catching a muddy pig seem like walk in the park !! <_<

The frustrating thing is how is the Essendon red lighter than the Melbourne red?

I get the feeling we are just lying down and taking the AFL direction.

Either the royal blue/red strip which we wore against Carlton last year or the reverse colour strip (blue on red instead of red on blue) both look great, avoid a clash and don't sell our heritage up the river.

The AFL directive is severally misplaced and it is unfortunate that it is directed at us and other clubs like Collingwood, Essendon etc. dictate to the AFL on the issue.

Why doesn't Adelaide's clash jumper need white in it?

..... or Essendon's? .... and why hasn't Collingwood been required th have a clash jumper at all. Simple answer ... two sets of rules. One for the rich and powerful, another for the rest.

Exactly, that's what i was getting at.

This is one part of the season that i cannot possibly fathom. How the f%$k do we need a third colour, when basically no other teams have to? Very frustrating.

Ha, because Collingwood's clash strip has a white base. They should have to use a third colour.

Perhaps the only jumper we should put forward to is one with Black and White stripes. Hell, we won't need it V Collingwood so why not.

Let's see how quickly Mcguire would get on ourside in any fight v the AFL.

Ridiculous situation. And why does the Demon look so stupid?

Not sure if it has been posted (didn't read the whole thread).

A bit of history about the demons.....

"MELBOURNE The Demons

Nickname variations in modern use: 'Dees'; 'Redlegs'.

Formed in 1858. Foundation member of the VFL in 1897.

Premiers: 1900, 1926, 1939-41, 1948, 1955-57, 1959-60, 1964.

In its early years the club wore all-white outfits and was known as the 'Whites' or 'Invincible Whites' prior to 1872¹. A member of the club, Larry Bell, returned from a trip to England with four pairs of stockinged socks, the two red pairs went to the Melbourne club and the nickname of 'Redlegs', still used today, was born. Melbourne added blue knickerbockers and guernsey as well as a red cap to make up their outfit in the same year, 1872. This ensemble led to the 'Fuchsias' nickname also being used, as the red cap reminded many of this flower. Frank 'Checker' Hughes, a premiership player and coach at Richmond, took over the coaching role at Melbourne in 1933. Legend has it that, early in his tenure, 'Checker' told his players You are playing like a lot of flowers. Lift your heads and play like demons! The name was promptly embraced and the 'Demons' went on to win four premierships during 'Checker's' reign."

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~nickname/afl.html#demons

I like option B....................lets bring back the MFC logo & the invincible whites

Just like the mighty Bolton Wanderers! The whites!

ha ha let's go back to it!!!!!

joking!

How about making the insignia red and blue coloured instead of all blue?

If it was red and blue, would have made it different to Carlton and would have got my vote.