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White in Jamar out

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Good luck Jeff,

I for one will be glad to see you running around tonight

WTF. Where you hear this?

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    Good luck Jeff,

    I for one will be glad to see you running around tonight

    i'll be happy to never see jeff white pull on a melbourne jumper again. He is a disgrace

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    Jeff's at the end, but he's been a Melbourne champion and carried our ruck for 10 years.

    Pathetic comment, PeterJames.

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    Say what you like about Jamar, at least he can actually win a ruck contest!

    White is no longer interested.

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    Say what you like about Jamar, at least he can actually win a ruck contest!

    White is no longer interested.

    Spot on. I wondered what the point of playing him was tonight other than the obvious that Jamar was unavailable? Thought it might be his chance to show a Collingwood or Carlton that he may have a year left in him. Sorry Jeff, it`s done n dusted mate and I think you know it. Thanks for some great years that seem a long long time ago !

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    Jeff was terrible in the ruck tonight.

    Around the ground I thought he was OK.

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    Used to be so good. It was embarrasing to see some of his efforts tonight. Me needed Jamar to at least win the ball in some ruck contests

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    Only 3 more weeks to go of putting up with that hack who wears #34

    Good one you hero. :rolleyes:

    Great player in his time, but that time is up sadly.

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    While you're busy throwing Whitey on the bonfire why don't you add Nathan Carrol to it as well.

    Nah, in all honesty, I love Whitey and its a crying shame how his career has fizzled out.

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    He's been a good servant to the club. I thought he got thrown around alot tonight, Ottens traeted him with contempt. He is not strong enough through the upper body. He's asset was his leap. The circle has destroyed him. Time to go Jeff, sorry mate.

    If a club wants White... all the best.

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    It was sad to hear G. Lyon award the MMM "Worst on Ground" 3 votes to Old Jeff. He did preface his announcement with "I prefer to think of it as least-effective". Time to move on.

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    So does anyone still think White should be playing before Jamar? I thought he was less effective around the ground than the big Russian, and not even close to him at the ruck contests. Thanks for a great career Jeff but sadly it's time up.

    You are the poor supporter Cards. If you think Whites performance was good and above critisism you need to take the blinkers off. If you think we just should never critisise Melbourne players you are a fool

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    There is such a big cap between VFL and AFL, even knowing that Jeff has played 250+ games it still would take time to re-adjust to the pace. Saying that Blake towelled him. Thanks Jeff for the past 10 years.

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    If there needed to be any further proof, White is finished. Take away the dribble goal and PJ did stuff all in the ruck.

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    White hasn't been the same ruckman since the centre bounce rule came in. This negated the one aspect of his game that made him a stand out as a ruckman - his leap at the centre bounce.

    I can remember time and time again in 2000 how he'd leap at the centre bounce and knock it in the path of Powell or Woeowodin etc. who would run onto it and pump it forward. It was exciting stuff.

    However the game changes and the centre bounce rule was always going to affect smaller, athletic ruckman. White is a great athlete and can still provide value around the ground and his kicking skills are very good. But there are two aspects that are going to see him struggle going forward:

    1) Ruckwork - his leap has been negated at centre bounces and bigger ruckman just out-reach him. Only 11 hit-outs last night, with 0% effectiveness. At other stoppages, he just gets monstered by the bigger ruckman. They outbody him and outposition him and as a result he struggles to have an influence at these stoppages.

    2) Handball - while a great kick, White is not the best decision maker by hand. The way the game is going and the way we want to move the ball, we need good decision makers by hand and foot. I think White has struggled to adapt to a style of game with more handball.

    White's been a great player for us but with the focus on youth and development and the financial situation at the club, it is increasingly likely that he will make way at the end of the year. I'm not hanging him on one shocker of a game, it's just that the game has changed and the style of ruckman has changed.

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    Take away the dribble goal and PJ did stuff all in the ruck.

    10 hitouts, 50% to advantage?

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    It's not often i lament Jamar not being in the side but white is finished.

    He got towelled up by a dud player in Blake and went missing after Qtr time.

    Goodbye Jeff, Tnks 4 tha Memories

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    White hasn't been the same ruckman since the centre bounce rule came in. This negated the one aspect of his game that made him a stand out as a ruckman - his leap at the centre bounce.

    I have always thought that White should sue the AFL for a rule change that directly affected his capacity to earn.

    I'm not joking.

    Gerard Healy, probably trying to justify his opinions vis-a-vis "ruckman's knee", once said something along the lines of "well, he will adapt". Balls! That's a complete soft-soap cop-out. What's white going to do? Stitch springs to his boots?

    No, I reckon White has been grievously wronged by the AFL and he, or his "people", should do something about it.

    W-Jack, you're a lawyer - get onto it.

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    I have always thought that White should sue the AFL for a rule change that directly affected his capacity to earn.

    Wouldn't it be more along the lines of ..............that directly affected his capacity to ply his trade (hence earn).....

    At the end of the day, Rules are Rules. And if the governing body which is the AFL in this instance, adopted those new rules and it satisfied the needs of the AFL players Association, Jeff hasn't got a leg to stand on.....so to speak.

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    jeff had 11 hitouts and none to advantage....

    number of times the opponent palmed the ball to advantage and created a goal, well...

    has been a terrific servant to this football club and in his glory days he was just awesome to watch - the high marking, the silky foot skills and the ability to run...

    unfortunately, those days are gone and jeff will be remembered for the good rather than the bad...

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