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Derrick Hine, Steven Wells and Graham Wright are all list managers at their clubs.

He left at the end of a season not mid-year.

He didnt play yesterday!!

He might need a Melbourne girlfriend to keep him here....*cough*

I question how the recruiting department could have watched Pedersen and Gillies all year and thought they were capable of being in Melbourne's or any teams best 22. How is Cam Pedersen a better player then the discarded Stefen Martin?

Tom Gilies also.

A Barry P special!!

There is a direct link between Jamar's form drop and when he signed that big contract!!

A shocking thread!!

Both not AFL players. Why someone listened to Neil Craig in the first place and put Seller on the list is beyond me. Tapscott is also not an AFL player. Another Barry P special. He's been kissed on the doodle Barry P, getting a oppo job at Carlton after bringing so many non-competeive hacks into the MFC.....Well Done Baz you will be remembered!!

Surely you recruit every player to play.

Jones trained with the Dogs before the draft in 2011, he was very unlucky to miss out to Austin. His season at Box Hill was very good in 2012 when he played in the middle. As Box Hill had a lot of Hawthorn players running around in the VFL last year when Jones was forced to play on the wing or half back he struggled but some of his work through the midfeild was that of an AFL standard.

They have Jarrod Witts developing nicely.

Kristen Jaeskch will go higher then Shaw, Taylor Garner will go between 10-20 for certain, no way Macrae will go past the top 10 and Nathan Wright and Tanner Smith are not a top 20 picks.

He runs like an old women and wont get picked in the top 10 due to the risk, one that the dogs cant afford to take.

No way Stringer and Shaw will be picked in the top 10. Both way too speculative to be picked that early.

Pedersen's AFL games this year were not great. He cant hold down a key post at AFL level. At VFL he played mainly ruck and ruck rover. This indicates the Roos dont rate him as you would think he would be played in a key role the same as he would at AFL level because at the 193cm he may struggle against Mumford and Cox all day.

Not once this year. The coaches just must not rate him at all.

He does not have the speed. The slow key backs at AFL level are all strong units. He does not have the strength.

A work rate that key forwards need to have to be a success, a thirst for the contest, a desire for body contact and a huge amount of improved body strength.

Gysberts is an inside mid with an outside mids body. His best work is done in close but struggles holding his body positioning. He needs to improve his work rate around the ground. His inability to spread offensively and defensively with conviction is of concern. If he doesnt improve these areas he will never make it.

The fact here is the bloke who started this thread would rarely have seen these two blokes play. So how the hell would they know if they are any good!!

Beau Dowler? You haven't seen him play have you?

Not an AFL player.