Pre Season Winners and Losers

[waynewussell 4,153]

No losers!

Hunt is a great get and we have been patient. He has elite pace! He was coached by Robert Shaw at junior level and he said that Hunt had a couple of outstanding attributes, just needed to grow a man's body. Well, Hunt is growing and Roos & Goodwin know all about his tear away pace and long kicking. he will be a regular by the end of 2016... may get H's spot!

Matt Jones has been backed in by R & G and hasn't let anyone down.

Kennedy is a great get ( as I pointed out in Maroochydore)

Frost is showing versatility and is also getting the "I belong" feeling

I have no doubt that Billy and ANB will find a slot as the year progresses

[Slartibartfast 16,084]

4 hours ago, jnrmac said:

I see 3 goals he gave away or was responsible for in the 1st qtr yesterday and shake my head.

Perhaps you should watch the game rather than shake your head.

Saints kicked 4 goals for the quarter.

Goal 1:  Salem kick out to Roberton who kicks long to front of goal where Bruce out marks Oscar McDonald.  Garland not involved.

Goal 2: Salem clears defensive 50 to Ross who kicks into Billings inside 50 on the lead.  Garland not his opponent and not involved.

Goal 3: Point kick out to Wagner who kicks across goal where Billings intercepts and kicks goal.  Garland not involved.

Goal 4.  Garland kicks across goal to Lonie who marks and finds Billings 20 metres on his own and goals.  Garland involved and responsible for turnover.

 

So he didn't give away 3 goals.  He was involved in one goal.  Shake your head all you like but you're wrong.  Reality is Garland is obviously respected by the FD who offered him a new contract last year.  You don't.  That's fine but don't make stuff up to pot him. 

[Samael 560]

On 3/13/2016 at 11:59 PM, Coup Cooper said:

Apart from the obvious..

Kennedy has definitely showed he is going to be more than handy..  Same as Bugg.. Wagner looks to be already better than Michie.. Frost showed he CAN play CHF.. Harmes is an exciting talent

Losers

Petracca.. The basketball incident ruined his chance to do what Oliver has just done. Brayshaw missed out on valuable match practice.. Hogan looks to of developed a stutter worse than Doug Hawkins in his set shots.. Hopefully just a bad game.. Pedersen will probly miss 1-2 after that "bump" I thought it was fair.. Hunt didn't really impress me..

Thats about it!

Bring on GWS! May somebody plz shirt front that weasel Scully!!

ps.. Looking fwd to Trengove, Brayshaw & Petracca all coming into this team!!! #wow

 

Did you watch Sunday's game. Turned it over 6 out of 7 times he had it. Looks pretty raw to me. Michie got One quarter against the dogs 7 touches with 100% efficiency , 2 clearances and one goal assist.  

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

18 minutes ago, Samael said:

Did you watch Sunday's game. Turned it over 6 out of 7 times he had it. Looks pretty raw to me. Michie got One quarter against the dogs 7 touches with 100% efficiency , 2 clearances and one goal assist.  

Goodwin has said that Wagner is at the front of the queue to be upgraded, and also said he was impressed with his game against the Saints. I'm not sure I agree, but I personally don't have either of them near my best 22 so it doesn't really matter anyway.

[rpfc 27,663]

I get the point of the thread but there are no winners or losers in March (well, early March)...

But there are a few that have taken their chance, a few that have put their names out there, a few with emphatic question marks, and a few starting behind a lot of names.

Watts, Oliver, Bugg, and Kennedy took their chance.

Wagner, Hunt, and Frost put their names out there.

Garland and Grimes continue to do things that veterans are not expected to do. (Grimes over committing and asking for a moving 'switch' that led to a goal, Garland not 'meeting the footy' and getting beaten again leading to a goal) You accept it from the kids, but not from 9+ year vets.

Petracca, I assume, will be asked to win his position with form through the VFL and starts behind where he should be.

Dawes and Trengove are in a similar position, in what could be their final opportunity to play in the AFL.

[dazzledavey36 49,631]

22 hours ago, waynewussell said:

No losers!

Hunt is a great get and we have been patient. He has elite pace! He was coached by Robert Shaw at junior level and he said that Hunt had a couple of outstanding attributes, just needed to grow a man's body. Well, Hunt is growing and Roos & Goodwin know all about his tear away pace and long kicking. he will be a regular by the end of 2016... may get H's spot!

Matt Jones has been backed in by R & G and hasn't let anyone down.

Kennedy is a great get ( as I pointed out in Maroochydore)

Frost is showing versatility and is also getting the "I belong" feeling

I have no doubt that Billy and ANB will find a slot as the year progresses

Personally I think your'e overating Hunt. He did nothing or show any glimpse to suggest he will make it. I'm still yet to see this breakaway pace that he has. We all know he has it but come game day he doesn't use it.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

I hope I don't put the mozz on him but J Watts seems to have clicked. Loved his work over the NAB cup.

I was also very surprised at how ready Oliver seems to be. Ruthless tackling and amazing handballs.

Love that Salem is doing the kick-outs instead of Tmac!

The only losers I saw were the teams we played against 

[Coup Cooper 610]

12 hours ago, Samael said:

Did you watch Sunday's game. Turned it over 6 out of 7 times he had it. Looks pretty raw to me. Michie got One quarter against the dogs 7 touches with 100% efficiency , 2 clearances and one goal assist.  

Fair enough.. I still think Wagner has more upside than Michie ...

[In Harmes Way 7,617]

I think the fitness of the team and the way they've run out all three of the games is a big win from my perspective

[jacey 333]

14 hours ago, rpfc said:

I get the point of the thread but there are no winners or losers in March 

loser is harsh but there were clear opportunities for fringe players to cement spots. 

jayden hunt, neal bullen, stretch, grimes, omac did not grasp that chance.

 

harmes, mjones, kennedy, bugg all did

[bing181 8,331]

1 hour ago, jacey said:

loser is harsh but there were clear opportunities for fringe players to cement spots. 

jayden hunt, neal bullen, stretch, grimes, omac did not grasp that chance.

harmes, mjones, kennedy, bugg all did

No accident that the "winners" in your list have all been in the system a year or more longer than your "losers" (excepting Grimes). 

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

4 hours ago, jacey said:

loser is harsh but there were clear opportunities for fringe players to cement spots. 

jayden hunt, neal bullen, stretch, grimes, omac did not grasp that chance.

 

harmes, mjones, kennedy, bugg all did

I quite liked Stretch's game in NAB1 and was disappointed to not see him again. ANB didn't have the opportunity to play (reportedly due to injury concerns), so it's a bit harsh to say he didn't grasp his chance

[CBDees 3,162]

Terlich was not even given a chance (again). Trained his heart out in the pre-season and was on the extended list for the three NAB Challenge games but missed the final cut each time. I fear his ship has sailed.

[stuie 7,374]

9 hours ago, bing181 said:

No accident that the "winners" in your list have all been in the system a year or more longer than your "losers" (excepting Grimes). 

This is Hunt's third year. Yet to debut. Harmes was taken a year later in the rookie draft.

 

 

[dazzledavey36 49,631]

25 minutes ago, stuie said:

This is Hunt's third year. Yet to debut. Harmes was taken a year later in the rookie draft.

 

 

Harmes was taken the same year as Hunt.

[Ted Lasso 17,233]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Harmes was taken the same year as Hunt.

correct, but in my opinion Harmes has shown far more, i was a bit underwhelmed by Hunt, especailly given all the talking up he was getting.

[stuie 7,374]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Harmes was taken the same year as Hunt.

That's what i thought too, but all the information I checked didn't say that.

 

*Edit - Just realized they call the rookie draft in 2013 the "2014 rookie draft".

Point still remains though that Harmes is NOT a year ahead in the system from Hunt.

 

Edited March 16, 2016 by stuie

[dazzledavey36 49,631]

5 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

correct, but in my opinion Harmes has shown far more, i was a bit underwhelmed by Hunt, especailly given all the talking up he was getting.

Same mate. Yet to see anything remotely close that will say he will make it. Doesn't win enough of the ball and doesn't know how to use his pace come game day.

 

[Deespicable 2,574]

6 minutes ago, Peter Griffen said:

correct, but in my opinion Harmes has shown far more, i was a bit underwhelmed by Hunt, especailly given all the talking up he was getting.

I can't remember a thread on DL where people talked him up - although there were plenty that were pleased he was getting a go and the fact that the club gave him a crack at half back showed they can still see some potential in him - which is great given that he was a speculative late pick in the draft.

At some point we will have a few injuries and will need to try out a few fringe players and the fact that we got pre-season games into guys like Wagner, Hunt and O-Mac is a bonus.

Other than the draft year, I'm not sure why you are comparing him with Harmes, who is a stronger, bigger-bodied type and looks fully-developed to me and ready to have a regular crack at AFL level.

Hunt still looks more like a kid, but he's getting closer to being ready to playing with men. Can he become a regular? Who knows, his kicking may not be good enough to cut it at the elite level, but it is now clear that he is worth having on our list.

[Redlegs Too 106]

Melbourne website

HUNT 2013 NAB AFL draft round 4 pick 57

HARMES 2014 Rookie Draft

Hunt has had a bad run with injuries. Hope he gets a bit of time to catch up and reach his potential.

[Damo 3,030]

For me its also how many players are tackling mean. My view is that its Jack Viney's influence.

[PaulRB 6,048]

Agree that Jacks set the tone, but Roo's is renown for preferring, recruiting and developing tough relentless tackling teams.

Its great to see so many players tacking with relish, VB, Brayshaw, Jones and Oliver...

 

[stuie 7,374]

2 minutes ago, Redlegs said:

Melbourne website

HUNT 2013 NAB AFL draft round 4 pick 57

HARMES 2014 Rookie Draft

Hunt has had a bad run with injuries. Hope he gets a bit of time to catch up and reach his potential.

That's what sucked me in too. I swore they were same year, but that info confused me.

Turns out the rookie draft is named after the upcoming season, ie - the rookie draft that took place in 2013 was called the "2014 rookie draft".

 

[Eelesie 216]

4 hours ago, CBDees said:

Terlich was not even given a chance (again). Trained his heart out in the pre-season and was on the extended list for the three NAB Challenge games but missed the final cut each time. I fear his ship has sailed.

After Dunn was injured it would have been an ideal opportunity to give him a run. A bit of a shame he missed out on the chance to have a crack.

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

41 minutes ago, stuie said:

That's what sucked me in too. I swore they were same year, but that info confused me.

Turns out the rookie draft is named after the upcoming season, ie - the rookie draft that took place in 2013 was called the "2014 rookie draft".

 

Correct, they were picked the same year.