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My mate Steve goes every week Missed last week and says wants to be there for the 2nd win in a 13 win streak You might recognise him hell be the one saying told you so Wish I was there He has been instructed to cheer for me as well GO DEES
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Saw Jack Riewoldt? interviewed and he stated he bled yellow and black which was a far more frightening circumstance to a chap who was once married to a haematologist.
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Garland a forward, Watts a backman and Grimes a midfielder?
dpositive replied to Curry & Beer's topic in Melbourne Demons
Watts forward took 2 Collingwood defenders in his first match when we drew I think???? He has improved and represents a threat wherever he plays. The switching of attacker/defender is an option that is handy to have to take the initiative as a coach at the least it may rattle the cage of the pies and make them lose concentration on their game It will depend on the structure of the rest of the team we may have been lucky that essendon didnt score goals in 1st q but we now know the cattle are capable perhaps a winning mentality will give more confidence. The squad may begin to look better when some of our young bodies muscle up From the tV last week it appeared we had a more muscular appearnce in the team Sylvia Moloney Chapman Magnar Sellar Clarke Jamar Even Green were the mature bodies that allowed the slighter athletes to survive. A lot will depend on how their bodies react again this week I am confident taht the coaching team will be aware of the conditioning needed and will be aware of the skills that are available to them. Go Dees -
Garland a forward, Watts a backman and Grimes a midfielder?
dpositive replied to Curry & Beer's topic in Melbourne Demons
I hope your right The squad has many complimentary and competing units which makes the team playing the attributes required to combat the opposition is the answer playing at Casey can be used as with Watts to refresh players and also give them the winning feeling which can be translated to AFL Its not a deemotion its a deevelopment. Ive been promoting this for some time and still believe it can work I have also said I trusted Neeld a teacher to get the best out of the units and hoped he wasnt a one trick pony. The season is unfolding and the sum total of the parts is beginning to look much more substantial. Im even more depositive GO DEES -
Now thats an idea that ch 7 boffins should love Dont know that the afl would like it as it may show the incosistencies too clearly
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Have seen comments and agree that co ordinator deserves some disapproval BUT tell the boy not to be diminished but rather to feel prouder than ever His success was seen as and was very significant Perhaps he needs aquick response prepared for any future derogatory remarks made because he is a Melbourne supporter we all get them Perhaps this could be a useful thread for us to develop??? for the moment " well we managed to beat the top team" will just have to suffice hopefully we can add "and its a pity the pies werent up to that standard"
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Great information re what is a goal Thanks all I thought the goal umpire made excellent position so given the poor quality of the replay went with him Akum asks woiuld it be reviewed if called a goal and thats a most interesting pointWho actually calls the referral?? It shows the flaws in the system as already pointed out by others. I guess if the disgust at the decision made our team more more determined to win it may even have been valuable. And did Essendon think its ok we still get the advantage and not regroup they had many disappointing shots themselves and may have felt satisfied that this squared the ledger in their favour. A dely to rview may have interrupted the tempo and momnentum of the game which was swinging in our favour. I know at home watching I was thinking a mix of emotion and was just so pleased that we won despite it knowing we could never cite this as a reason for loss.
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Do we have a specialist kicking coach?
dpositive replied to La Dee-vina Comedia's topic in Melbourne Demons
Excellent point This scenario would also add some prestige to the former leader and maybe invite some developmental mentoring programs. I have long suggested that Green "was" like a striker in soccer until he was developed into a defensive and mid role when his goal scoring, creating disposal seemed to diminish> -
I reckon they should all be horses for courses Use the whole squad. The coaches will know who need to continue to be played and who needs to be refreshed. We should be pleased that we have alternatives in the successful Casey side who may benefit from an upgrade while some may need to be rested However that said I'm also the "aint broke dont fix" type myself
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Thats why I made the comment "attacking tasks" BUT defence is also defence not attack and the point I make is that I would hate to see the attacking nature ground out of him by the assumption of a full time defensive role. I have always said that Watts needed development and can improve last night there were many times when our player took a mark or possesion of the ball and missed a chance to play forward to a spreading( god I hate that term) player. I remember jack in other games wheeling round to pin point an attacking pass from the wing As CHF he can run forward receive turn and pin point a leading Clarke who runs into the space Watts has left or he can send it deep to a leaper Howe or resting ruck type. He is one of the few who can do this and it doesnt have to taught. If Sellar can maintain his defensive form of last night we do not need extra defenders or even attacking defenders in the back half of the ground we will still need some attacking players. Happy to discuss coz it certainly aint simple and I am certainly no coach but its great to be able to make some analysis from a winning perspective. A mate of mine goes to every match has done for years missed last night coz of his increasing frustration and clashing personal celebration. He said hes happy to stay away if thats what it takes to keep winning. Cant see him missing the QB match as he always has a few pies friends for lunch at the club I think he will go with newfound enthusiasm GO DEES
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I have stated before he has always been impressive and needs to develop BUT I do not want to see his potential wasted by having his natural abilities lost as he goes defensive I think he is a better player than to allow this to happen But again I certainly saw this happen to Green and Bruce who were out and out strikers who turned into grunters. Please Please release him to the attacking tasks he has shown he has the abilities for. Althougn I am sure he will be one of the most plased with the win and happy to play anywhere coz hes good enough to do anything Except crash and bash all night. Incidently I dont think we need to many of those as Mitch was superb again although dont think he would have many stats.
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Havent seen any yet???? where are they?????? they were happy to tell me they were going and to be fair none exhibited anything other than some respect as we had beaten them 3 of 3 but mainly got the sympathy vote. I was pleased to say we were possible of better things Just got a phone call from Carlton supporter mate pleased to say I am the only bloke he knows who would have picked the DEes in the footy tipping! He is right Go Dees
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Hope your happy today Rusty GO DEES
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Hopefully he can take the defensive role currently assigned to Watts releasing him JW to the running forward role that he can provide. Will eagerley look at the JW thread to see if only his mistakes are mentioned
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Quarter by quarter analysis - is fitness our problem?
dpositive replied to Hampton 22's topic in Melbourne Demons
wasnt going to comment as I think I agree with most of the topics Of course I have never played sport at elite level but have played plaenty of sports to my maximum There is no doubt skill drops off as fitness falls. Concentration and decision making are skills affected also There is an ability to rise and play "above your level" but this is very rare and certainly cannot be sustained. In a team sport one players skills can be compensated for or exploited by alert team players. when confidence is involved and effort reciprocated performance can improve. It is a complicated issue and one I hope the coaches are monitoring closely. It may be an argument for using the squad and resting players after requiring them to use their maximum effort for a particular session or perhaps as many think it is necessary to continue to grind them on to build fitness just hope we can see some improvement- 55 replies
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I reckon Jack has so many conflicting instructions (game plans) he could well be overthinking any situation. I still say his instinctive actions is often not supported by team mates causing him to look slow or indecisive. He also is often in the right place but is ignored or delivery is so poor that he appears awkward He does not enjoy the bonus of being in a successful unit with others used to success when they all get a bit of success it may well allow Watts to be more dominant with fewer possesions As others say I enjoy it when he gets the ball disposal is so much better than many others I really do not want to see him placed in defence for long periods, Green and Bruce who were out and out strikers were never the same after enduring defensive and mid field roles continuosly Jack is a naturally mobile attacking player the more I see of him the more he reminds me of Keith Grieg smart mover who makes space and moves fluidly I think Greig played as attacking defender at times. Hope Jack continues his progress and enjoys all the comments from all of us
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Didnt see the positives coz I was returning over the top during the day Plenty of snow at Hotham fo those interested. I blame myself for the loss coz as soon as i got home to watch we went downhill ( sorry for skiing pun) Good to read the posts as most are positive. I still reckon we get the worst of the umpiring it must be pretty hard to get up and give again when youve got blokes sitting on and kneeing you in the head(wasnt the head supposed to be protected) or to tackle again and again the guy with the ball to effect a ball up when a free is given against you when you kick a ball out of a similar tackle, the lack of run was obvious but the cruel bounce of the ball FGS???? We must have some luck soon and I think that comes with the players persisting coz I reckon there is enough talent and skill there!
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Says what exacly? That the coach has played a player in the wrong position? Surely a loose man is that and is why he collected 34 touches? Maybe Watts is fast enough to create a loose man in attack? I did say before the match I liked the potential of Watts at CHF floating around the centre leaving a hole for Clarke to run into, and subsequently leave Howe to jump at FF Dont know what happened to that plan but Watts in the backline doesnt seem to do much. How many of his kicks Hb etc went to another player? If Watts can get it 34 times it is usually then delivered to someone acurately
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which is why i hoped the combination would achive improvement maybe like the players the coaching team are learning new structures
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with Clarke Howe and Cloke it could be very congested in the air. I prefer the price inflation scenario that might mean a midfielder would be available. But bringing a magpie to the demons sort of doesnt feel right to me.
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I agree with this although can remember many 5 year plans being presented. Without adequate resources an often conflicting approaches to failure these plans were reviewed every 3 years so there was never any completion. I think the time frame is shorter than we acknowledge and I like you do still feel confident that there is some coherent coordinated approach with adequate resources.
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the side does seem to have a good structure solid at back midfield good mix and talls and shorts on forward. It remains to be seen if the intensity that is needed can be shown early to get the confidence up and develop the run that is there I like Clarke and Howe as the big leading forward making space and the flyer in the goal square if Watts can play mobile across and around Chf leaving the space for Clarke to run into and give some delivery into those spaces or deeper to Howe we may have some exciting scoring paths and with Davey and Jurrah scouting anything could happen I sense it is also important to maintain that forward line pressure and if the team can runboth ways as has been stated evrywhere a win is certainly on the cards I'll be picking em again even tho my tipping has already been deestroyed Great reports and thoughts and still plenty of enthusiasm Its all good GO DEES
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Thanks again KC I did see most of this game on the TV and was interested in your report as the Commentators who I generally like did seem a bit harsh on Green an dWatts particularly. It was also good to see some of the string of possesion as players moved ahead "spread" confident that the ball would be delivered to where they were going There are some good features of the Scorpions play that hopefully can be taken up to the Dees Do you see such a big difference between the two levels? It seems there are many players at all clubs who rotate and the intensity doesnt translate on the TV (never has) but I have seen some VFA matches that were harder (more intense) more skillful than some AFL in the past. Is there hope that some of the successful attributes of the Scorpions can be taken to the AFL
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I also have noticed that the Ch7 promo "We love the footy" or something has random shots of playyers and supporters etc and while most teams colours are included one club is noticebly absent, although on reflection GWS may also be not there Not inciting conspiracy but it does seem a bit of an omission that one of the oldest and original clubs doing everything to maintain the footy tradition is not even on the screen. I would love to be corrected and someone can assure me that I am wrong
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Agree with all you have said and would only add that I am not dismissive of Morton From my v limited viewing (free TV only) he seems to be often in position and does display good skills Like Watts has an efortless efficiency which is easily overlooked when we do need some authority (ie Mitch) It appears to me that Morton like Watts sometimes is about to make his instictive move and then hesitates due to those around him not being aware of that instinctive move, As they play together these moments mesh together seamlessly. I did see some moments in the Casey game where this instinctive action occurred so maybe success and confidence has somethging to do with it