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Thanks for the introduction to some new material and a reprise of some. I think I may have seen Ozgur Baba at Womad, or at least someone very similar.

Again dont disagree, but we dont know. It just adds another dimension to the season. I too hope King is the best coach ever

hopefully learn from the experience and there is enough corporate memory to not repeat any errors. It is the hope with King.

As Ive said before Macca, and I dont disagree with what you say, and I certainly dont know all or perhaps any of the reality of the past, the future will tell. The club will need to improve . If Clarrie and Tracc thrive in their new environments and become a match winning force then I will regret that our club did not have the ability to find and use that force. In any circumstance I will still support the Dees as I have always done.

I recall that Workcover injury analysis showed that workplace injuries occur at a heightened rate after holidays. A combination of a relaxed attitude and less fitness for the rigours of work. Its a time for heightened awareness of loads.

In her parting speech on 26 June Gillard made her own pronouncement. “It doesn’t explain everything, it doesn’t explain nothing,” she said. “It explains some things and it is for the nation to think in a sophisticated way about those shades of grey.” and she doesnt even support Melbourne Football Club . We should nominate her for the Board.

I think Julia Gillard once said this not everything but it is something.

and a lack of vision, innovation and negotiation.

I have attended AGM and spoken with board members and am certainly aware of the effort they devote and the passion they have for the club. it is partly the reason I have not pursued the Fishermans Bend project any further. I did receive some indication of support through Dland members but little beyond that and certainly not at the more influential and board level. I believe there have been many opportunities to be involved in the development of the FB precincts. the total site once overseen by a separate board is now under the direct supervision of Department of Transport. It is still proposed to establish a community of 80,000. There is an opportunity to develop a social community footprint (as indicated by Praha) close to the Port of Melbourne and the Ron Barassi senior oval. A comprehensive entertainment , retail, commercial centre could provide a destination centre for that community and a transport hub for the emerging population. The matter of transport has indeed been a significant issue on development but one which should be exploited with a visionary approach. I also felt the exploration of an alternative site would hasten negotiations. I regret the lack of that vision but align myself with the club and the Caulfield project. Until it is abandoned or completed I will watch with interest and support the club.

Ive never understood why we cant just have a home strip (this one) red and Blue and a reverse colour blue and red. surely can avoid any clash with those two. Its the Eddie argument " we have black and white and white and black" but with real sense.

These two comments tell the story strongly influenced by ignorance of what has really happened. The future will tell. If Oliver gets back to paly a positive role it indicates our club still lacks some features of player management. If our team doea as well as i expect we will see that the change was needed. Our new coach seems to be progressing with a new team and a new attitude at the moment.

Im positive we have missed many opportunities, ignored many options and remain ignorant of relationships. I was also disappointed at the AGM announcement. It has been reported that our VP has recognised shortcomings. I am also positive that our team including demonland trackwatchers are focused on another season at Goschs and Casey where we have facilities which can produce a premiership. Our administrators and support staff will have to work harder and smarter.

Oliver is an indicator of the club performance. He was traded to improve club performance. From a financial perspective the report at the AGM seems to indicate it has been handled well. How other (all) players perform will be the measure of how well this was handled. this is a complex issue which requires far mor nuanced explanantion which requires far greater knowledge of facts than we have access to. I trust and support the club but certainly hope it works out well for both us and Oliver.

Hes on our list ahead of many others not on lists, so has some attributes. I agree that if he is playing regularly we may be i for a poor season but he can offer some backup and support. There may be a time when we can/must rest our prime options and can play our support options. It will be up to the coaches to get the best use from the whole squad for the whole season Selection must be made on form and the opposition.

There was a bit of comment on the emblem and slogans. I wasparticularly affected by those suggesting "GO Dees" was insipid. As i said to one who suggested that they have obviously not sat in front of me and my mates. WE also use the GoDees as a syncopated cry as the ball is quickly transferred from one player to another. Whatever cry you use it is all in the context of the passion of the delivery.

Im not encouraging you to gamble Im encouraging you to bet

Hey Red is your horse a good thing. If we all put a small amount on, it could compound to be enough to fund the project. or is this also dependent on MRC discussions.

I'll be there

Sorry cant make it down again this time. Housekeeping duties for the AirBnB prevail Have a great day

I like many aspects of discussion. I do think that the choral/vocal range of the example needs some work. Any proposal needs to be small vocal range and still recognisable when full participation of unsophisticated crowd. Different pace can be used to encourage participation. Tigerland still the benchmark for me with the gutteral "yellow and black" always having full participation Our own ad libbed rhetorical "What do we sing" is the closest match but doesnt always inspire the same participation. Of course the result winning is always significant.

Hope he does well there. Not sure he got and gave the best value with Goodie.

Thats the year Otis Redding died. I think he recorded Dock of the Bay just before he died.

I am an audience , despite my mothers voice and participation in choirs and light opera. I was blessed to be surrounded and exposed to music and my tastes are also eclectic.

Couldnt agree more. Perhaps you can provide some more appropriate if obscure tracks for the players music education. I was intrigued on my recent visit to Norfolk Island that a local performer, who sang an impressive collection of covers, had not heard of Otis Redding, and then in Coloundra a similar performer made the same comment. I thought every performer knew sitting on the Dock of the bay, but his impressive collection contains so many different rythms and tempos that he always inspires me. Sorry to hijack Training thread , thanks for everyone who contributed Im invested for the season ita gonna be great.

He is someone else,s problem now. Lets just hope they do not get him back to 6 time winning club B&F and helping win a Grand Final. They are traits that all players play for and it will be interesting to see what happens. He gave me many happy hours and I will still remember him as a club great. I think it says as much about the club as it does about Clarry, perhaps we got his contract wrong and didnt provide the correct support to continue to get the best out of him. I wasnt in the room at any stage so have no idea really, but I am disappointed and dont believe the club has communicated well, which is a continuing issue. I love and support the club and will continue. I hope this years performance improves quickly and we enjoy success which overides our disappointments.