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Spare a thought for Malaysian Airlines, poor bastards can't take a trick, they must have killed a truck load of black cats

There is a silver lining to this, with no lives lost, a number of different organizations got to plan and implement a response in the real world, and now be able to go away and look at what worked and what didn't. There is no way such a simulation could have been run. Including the presence of civilians, always a factor that brings huge pressure to participants. Truly invaluable in policing terms a full dress rehearsal of a grand final.

I love the footy smarts and general warm banter (drivel) that we share on here, and I really should breathe before I post. But most posting here have no effin clue about the Police. You have no idea how lucky you are and how dedicated the Police are that serve Victoria, that you pay for through your taxes, but you are getting value for money I can assure you. First of all - the Police approach to the use of force. "The success of a mission will be judged by the extant to which the use of force is minimised" (its been 10 years since I read that but I think I'm fairly close) The forward commander has to interact with an aircraft (you know a big thing with tonnes of flammable liquid and a few 100 people trapped inside) and a report of a bomb. Information received. It is not just an offender - there are two problems - someone offering a threat and the possibility of an explosive device. Fixing one does not fix the other and there is no bomb tech on the plane. There can be no assumptions in the response of the forward commander, unless lives are being actively lost/threatened, then every single piece of information about the device should be considered and evaluated and responded to. A bomb expert would need to process all this information to make an informed decision and then pass to the forward commander for a decision - how many of you have made a decision about the safety of someone elses life (and I'm not talking about driving your family around). Storming the plane might just set a bomb off, until you have verified that is unlikely why would you rush in the absence of any immediate threat to life. Would posters here prefer everyone go out in blaze of glory, so that we can have a high profile viking funeral for 330 passengers and crew and the Police response team. Fair diunkum...no effin idea, just say thank you that you live in Victoria. Get over the media drivel on timelines, utter utter garbage.

How did the lamb taste, pretty juicy no matter how long it was in the oven...

I was pretty excited watching Hibberd come off half back, haven't voted yet because i can't place his game - Oh and this song was a genius reference, am not going to be able to forget this for a bit

Really love the way he didn't drop his head after the fluffed shots. Has come on this year, really keen to see the back half as I thought his 12-23 < 1-11 in 2016. Personally I think he has drunk the koolaid along with the rest of us.

D.Cross didn't hurt either, just saying

What a stupid metric when taken in isolation. I would like to see m gained and a few other indicators as well. I like Dom, he is dancing on a postage stamp most times after getting the ball on the inside. I can't understand the OP and others giving it to him - he is having a go with his head over the ball and getting better all the time.

Lots of love for Frost, and Hibberd, but Wagner has also come back really well too, am still not sure who best back six are though, ad long as Jetta is one of them.

Could not believe the news. Best wishes to him and his family. There is a silver lining to this for Jesse, he wants to be a part of a winning team, the bonding these players are going through right now, caring for each other, will make them a better team and will stand them all in good stead down the track. Jesse will get some clear air soon he bloody well deserves it.

Didn't realise we had saints on the forum, redemption is pretty much on the menu for everyone at the MFC

My laptop works ok maybe its the telly, i might cut the tv browser out of the equation

I find trying to use watchafl.com.au super frustrating, I have good internet, but if I try and watch something live, it buffers endlessly. playback of finished games and shows works fine however. The only exception is if I log on to watch the game before it starts and get it from the start of the stream then it will work but this is not ideal. if the 2y.o. grabs the remote and stops it etc, I'm cooked and have to wait to the end and start over, as happened with the saints game. Haven't got around to writing a complaint yet note: this is on a brand new hi end Samsung telly with latest OS

I find trying to use watchafl.com.au super frustrating, I have good internet, but if I try and watch something live, it buffers endlessly. playback of finished games and shows works fine however. The only exception is if I log on to watch the game before it starts and get it from the start of the stream then it will work but this is not ideal. if the 2y.o. grabs the remote and stops it etc, I'm cooked and have to wait to the end and start over, as happened with the saints game. Haven't got around to writing a complaint yet note: this is on a brand new hi end Samsung telly with latest OS

I now put the last 2 seasons as Jones adjusting to quite a few new teammates and game plan, he wasn't bad but he was not his best either. Where as this year, ( and i soley credit his own work ethic) he has found the groove and is rocking it. What ever he did to find that extra pace should be bottled, kept secret like the coca cola formula, and compulsory for the entire team. I cannot think of another mature player who has regained pace the way he has.

6 - Salem 5 - Jetta 4 - Oliver 3 - Garlett 2 - Jones 1 - Watts

Hey DA, managed to check it out again, maybe not Sugar Ray but pretty decent all the same, I thought the speed was good didn't you? I think the same re sanction.

Off vision I have seen to date (not best quality) Hogan looks like he threw a perfect jab, that would earn him a point in the ring, and a week in the naughty corner. However I think Lewis and Vince are playing to instructions, and the suggestion of internal club fines is ludicrous, the team is searching for an edge, I think Goodwin is willing to risk the sanctions. However Hogans' snap though was not niggle or unsociable - not his role, he already strikes me as pretty bloody 'anti-social' .

Jetta BOG, I love this man, whether we win or lose, he is hard as.

With Max Gawn and Jordan Lewis all over the media, I would have thought our profile would be worthwhile... surely some hipster coffee could throw some cash or a Illy/Lavazza, but please God, not Nespresso.

Having watched how hard he trained in pre-season- i think i said he won't die wondering, he must be pretty wrapped cos he worked bloody hard. I also think the worm will turn for him and he finally start nailing some of those shots for goal more regularly.

I thought he was played very close yesterday, not sure if it was a tag but i dont think he was being ignored

Some seriously good coaching. I thought we were done 1st qtr, and loved how all the players started running left nothing behind but put a score on the board. Then in the 4th you could tell everyone was cooked but we had it in the bag by then. So sorry for Nick and also Joel Smith he was really showing something straight out of the box. Huge all team effort am deelerious

Good call well done