DEE fence

Not keen, we need consistent, knowledgeable Hawks people I know (we're not mates when it's footy), really dislike the turnovers.

McVee replacement?

I don’t think training hard has been the problem, nor desire for contest, I’m open to these being good appointments but as much as I dearly would have loved them as players at the club (Hamill was at one stage my favorite non Melbourne player), I don’t see any great coaching credentials. Very happy Troy is staying, but what I really want is to see a strategy coach of Jennings standard to join us/ another mid coach.

The real reason Geelong suspended Mad Monday were the players taking the mickey out of the Cotton On payments, nothing to do with BS and Caro etc.

Just curious but why the hell wouldn’t we pro rata and salary reduction in the contract?

Last 4 Premiers US - Oliver May Cats - Stengle, Smith, Bruhn Collingwood - Thug, DeGoey, get the idea Brisbane - Zorko, Robinson

I don’t believe you, and if true this is the ultimate Karen parenting… (joke)

Figure this is better here than in the imploding thread Thank you for this and it helped form a thought bubble that has been percolating for awhile. Trac has had a game plan built around him, no problem with that, but he represents a considerable amount of effort for others that fill in for his defensive running etc. While he has a license to roam and burst, it means others have extras to do. Now while I don’t mind that when it works, when it doesn’t work it is costing us flexibility with other game plans and I’m pretty sure every coach in the league has got the memo. Now I’m not sure that Tracc gets how much is done for him - and without doubt he does a huge amount to prepare himself, but these poor me vibes kind of stick in the back of my throat. I can understand the Coach thinking the ‘Tracc Play’ is stale and needs a rebuild. Tracc not being onboard with that or whatever leads us to the current scenario. I dearly love the bull like power and leg drive, but almost equally (big disagreement in my family about this) I think his lack of confidence in his set shot kicking has become a cancer for other forwards, I love the manic miracle goals, but the percentage of routine money in the bank shots has dried up so badly I am not opening a vein about the prospect of him leaving. (Check back when he kicks 6 on us).

Thank you for this and it helped form a thought bubble that has been percolating for awhile. Trac has had a game plan built around him, no problem with that, but he represents a considerable amount of effort for others that fill in for his defensive running etc. While he has a license to roam and burst, it means others have extras to do. Now while I don’t mind that when it works, when it doesn’t work it is costing us flexibility with other game plans and I’m pretty sure every coach in the league has got the memo. Now I’m not sure that Tracc gets how much is done for him - and without doubt he does a huge amount to prepare himself, but these poor me vibes kind of stick in the back of my throat. I can understand the Coach thinking the ‘Tracc Play’ is stale and needs a rebuild. Tracc not being onboard with that or whatever leads us to the current scenario. I dearly love the bull like power and leg drive, but almost equally (big disagreement in my family about this) I think his lack of confidence in his set shot kicking has become a cancer for other forwards, I love the manic miracle goals, but the percentage of routine money in the bank shots has dried up so badly I am not opening a vein about the prospect of him leaving. (Check back when he kicks 6 on us).

I was ready to pay a kings ransom for the kick, for all that he was/is a scallywag that was an immortal kick, you could retire happy with that.

A Gen X player in a Gen Z world, love his fierceness, incredibly important player for us. Will remain a tackle machine, a human version of a big cat hunting on Animal Planet. Think back to that 1st tackle in the 21 GF. When we play finals next he will be leading the way in pressure acts. Between him and Kossie we go very well for pressure around the ball.

Pairing ANB with Tracc is not a silly move by Adelaide as ANB created a great synergy with how well he performed the support roll. I am comforted by the fact that Hawthorn survived Buddy leaving and Brisbane was a basket case when Fagan arrived. Track is not Buddy, and we are not as [censored] as Brisbane was.

Felt like he had the riot act read to him midway through the season, as he found some mojo and his half forward efforts were part of a welcome return to form. I was ready for a trade early on but now think keep.

Role player, who gave Nic Daicos a legitimate bath, demonstrating commitment to team, seeing him snaffle Nic legally a micro second after Daicos had taken possession was a Joy. Basically reinvigorated the wing role a few years as an OG and has been happy to perform whatever since. Love and Keep are two words that come to mind.

this makes me happy

Remember the prelim against us, was so salty and referenced un-named excuses, he was at least a little better against the Lions yesterday, but still felt forced. Anyway, 9 prelims for 1 GF or whatever it is, the guy can coach and gets a lot out of his players, he's a great coach lets not turn into Victa here (lawn mowers).

It never ends well does it, in other news how much do you reckon the Essendon fans are thinking they have the wrong brother and that is why the soft cap for senior coaches salary hasn't been exempted.

fair call I guess, he was early 2nd round. my point stands, young blokes have done just fine with us, it's the retreads that are the challenge. it was the career killing comment that got up my nose.

Turner, Bowey, Rivers, McVee, Petty, Bedford, Jordan were all average picks all turned out to be diamonds in the rough, our high end picks of recent times have all been strong (a watch on JVR) the only black mark would be our pick ups from others clubs post '21, has been ordinary, but Goody's career killing empire, give it a rest. Even discards like Oscar, Jayden and James get a gig, granted we have issues with the game plan, but so much else has been on point.

I hope Essendon and Carlton get into a bidding war and bankrupt their clubs of draft picks and Essendon end up with another 10 years of no finals. FWIW Smith winning would have been worse than Daicos On the other hand, Langford was robbed.

Thanks for the correction, apologies to Mr Phillips, no slight intended.

Love this post, look at higher education and health, lots more high priced managers, less doers. I've heard very positive things about how he is going about it at Caufield Grammar as Firsts coach, that would be summarized as 'Ted Lasso' style really focused on the boys welfare, finding insightful ways to communicate beyond the tired tropes and cliches. I would be very onboard with Bartel being part of the Demons.

Love this post, look at higher education and health, lots more high priced managers, less doers.

You write the book for you. I’m curious about those that can watch without emotion and see patterns in the play that the emotional supporter miss. I also am curious about the training piece, some coaches have great visions, getting the players to execute said vision is nothing short of a miracle in my mind. With a degree of self interest can I forward you to the clippings of Ivor Warne-Smith in the Argus, he has occasional gems that bring a smile, fun for comparison across the eras.