Everything posted by DEE fence
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Farewell Judd McVee
Probably been said somewhere in the 102 pages, but there wasn't daylight between how him and Jackson, mailed in their performances during their last seasons. I am mightly peeved at losing Zanker though, that burggers up our fwd line no end.
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New Coach, New Captain?
Max's off field work with Trac, Oliver, MMM and everything else has been first class, he has a long media career ahead without doubt. I'm not sure the on-field role of leader is quite the same anymore, everything is about lines and roles, and leadership groups. Also I would ask are Gen Z+ are they really fussed about who is captain? (Genuine question, does it get a extra 2-3% performance out of the team). Captain has become much more about being a spokesperson for the club, which is a poison chalice at the best of times.. Max's public speaking ability is off the charts for a footballer, and TBH he really took some heat recently. Once upon a time a hard nut like Viney would have been my first choice, but those days seem gone.
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PRESEASON TRAINING: Monday 8th December 2025
So annoyed they don't share numbers, but I did note Sharp had his watch on and it was at 19:03, which is off the charts... A standard 20m shuttle run (Beep Test) usually finishes in 10-15 minutes for very fit individuals; 20 minutes signifies an endurance level rarely seen, hitting level 18/17... if anyone is interested: Level Shuttles running speed (km/h) time per shuttle (s) Total level time (s) Cumulative Time (min:seconds) Distance per level (m) Cumulative Distance (m 18 15 17.0 4.24 63.5 18:53 300 4000
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PRESEASON TRAINING: Monday 8th December 2025
Yes I think so, but considering the invective on the site I sometimes wonder… Gen X, just the latest bunch of Peter Pan wannabes…
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PRESEASON TRAINING: Monday 8th December 2025
Did anyone hear any beep test results, am very curious as usual to compare my 20 something self with the players, as a 50 something my knees tell me don't even think about it.
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Jason Taylor’s contract
Do they even need a recruiting boss with their f/s collection?
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Marley Davey (father/son)
Marley, if you are reading this, no pressure, but I am one of many who think your father was an absolute champion of the football club and a stellar human. His courage was 10/10, so we are a little excited that you might have the same heart as your papa. Enjoy footy though and ignore us religiously, this site is no good for your mental health.
- Welcome to Demonland: Kalani White
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Welcome to Demonland: MA Services Group
I was given a packet of Energy Watch branded Sherrins to take back to Africa at the time, thanks to Chris, they were used to spread the word about Aussie Rules, so some little good did come from that episode.
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Welcome to Demonland: Xavier Taylor
At 1:38 in the video, when he mentioned that he came early to watch the women’s team play before his Grand Final. I fell for him then, this is a proper team player.
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Welcome to Demonland: Xavier Taylor
A solid pick, I’m not sure he is a R1 though, his kicking reminds me a bit of Cam Bruce / Tmac in their early days, a bit floaty, and at the higher speed of AFL will get picked off a bit until he flattens his kicks. Everything else, attitude, heart seems 1st class. A very nice size though.
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Jeff White on Dee’s F50 Connection in 2026
I know people love to throw around the ‘Moneyball’ concept to the point it has become a cliche, BUT, I really feel like we have recruited well, for the first time since ‘21, I feel like our retreads add some value and increase the synergy of the team. I am aware that injuries could knock the wheels off the cart with these older folk, but we have recruited well enough to increase that inside F50 efficiency. As BBub said lots of our game is ok, It has been more than a decade than since we were not fit enough, and no one has called us bruise free recently either. JC has great speed out of the back line, and while not as a reliable kick as Hibberd I can see that we need that speed and I feel like he is the Hibberd replacement (that I did have McVee for). Windsor is lightening in a bottle to go with JC and also as a mid. I also think Fritsch deciding to get his head in the game and coming up the field like a smaller version of Jeremy Cameron was a revelation and could continue to pay dividends for our inside F50. To not lose our fierce edge I am hoping Viney and Kosi (+Chandler/Langdon) are allowed to hunt the opposition at the bounce, as they brilliant at effective tackles that the opposition ‘feel’ and I think that disrupts game plans, and that they then switch back fwd, while the lighter bodies take the running roles in game. I’m not sure I have clearly described what I mean, but you get my drift that we’ve been a good tackling/pressure side lets not lost that part of our game. The new kids, well everyone can see their value no need to expand on that. For the life of me I don’t understand why St Kilda let Max Heath go for chips or why Essendon didn’t go after him, there is something really strange about this trade, is there an unofficial market in favours that we don’t get to see? The great unknown is JVR, I feel like he hasn’t been right since that dodgy suspension a couple of years back, all between the ears with him, I am kinda worried it is Weid 2.0, I was so sure ‘25 would be his year but he went backwards.
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AFLW: PF vs North Melbourne
I find the Insta has plenty of content celebrating the women, I never use FB anymore, I check like once every 3 months for Luddite friends that haven’t switched to WhatsApp or Insta, and I kinda thought FB was a bit dead now compared to 15 years ago. I am not disagreeing with you that the AFLW needs plenty of support, just wondering if you are looking in the right places?
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AFLW: SF vs Adelaide
This is such a credit to the Cheer-Banner squad and yourself GW. Awesome work!
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TRAINING: Wednesday 12th November 2025
Am really getting BBB vibes from having Brodie in the squad, very very happy about it.
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Next Captain? (in a few years)
Chandler is a heart and soul type who can string a sentence together. Personally I hope this is a conversation for 2029… Disco would need to see more of, Rivers maybe, Lever would be ok if there was an unexpected bus in the nearer future. Viney, I think is a good vice, his intensity is Gen X, not sure it sells with the millennials (works fine for me but at 55 not pulling on a jumper anytime soon). Happy to be surprised by one of the recent draftees.
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Welcome to Demonland: Changkuoth Jiath
Not keen, we need consistent, knowledgeable Hawks people I know (we're not mates when it's footy), really dislike the turnovers.
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Archie Walsh - 2025 F/S Potential
McVee replacement?
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Assistant Coaches in 2026
I don’t think training hard has been the problem, nor desire for contest, I’m open to these being good appointments but as much as I dearly would have loved them as players at the club (Hamill was at one stage my favorite non Melbourne player), I don’t see any great coaching credentials. Very happy Troy is staying, but what I really want is to see a strategy coach of Jennings standard to join us/ another mid coach.
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Geelong to be fined over 3rd party payments
The real reason Geelong suspended Mad Monday were the players taking the mickey out of the Cotton On payments, nothing to do with BS and Caro etc.
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Farewell Clayton Oliver
Just curious but why the hell wouldn’t we pro rata and salary reduction in the contract?
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Farewell Clayton Oliver
Last 4 Premiers US - Oliver May Cats - Stengle, Smith, Bruhn Collingwood - Thug, DeGoey, get the idea Brisbane - Zorko, Robinson
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Farewell Christian Petracca
I don’t believe you, and if true this is the ultimate Karen parenting… (joke)
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Farewell Christian Petracca
Figure this is better here than in the imploding thread Thank you for this and it helped form a thought bubble that has been percolating for awhile. Trac has had a game plan built around him, no problem with that, but he represents a considerable amount of effort for others that fill in for his defensive running etc. While he has a license to roam and burst, it means others have extras to do. Now while I don’t mind that when it works, when it doesn’t work it is costing us flexibility with other game plans and I’m pretty sure every coach in the league has got the memo. Now I’m not sure that Tracc gets how much is done for him - and without doubt he does a huge amount to prepare himself, but these poor me vibes kind of stick in the back of my throat. I can understand the Coach thinking the ‘Tracc Play’ is stale and needs a rebuild. Tracc not being onboard with that or whatever leads us to the current scenario. I dearly love the bull like power and leg drive, but almost equally (big disagreement in my family about this) I think his lack of confidence in his set shot kicking has become a cancer for other forwards, I love the manic miracle goals, but the percentage of routine money in the bank shots has dried up so badly I am not opening a vein about the prospect of him leaving. (Check back when he kicks 6 on us).
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Imploding
Thank you for this and it helped form a thought bubble that has been percolating for awhile. Trac has had a game plan built around him, no problem with that, but he represents a considerable amount of effort for others that fill in for his defensive running etc. While he has a license to roam and burst, it means others have extras to do. Now while I don’t mind that when it works, when it doesn’t work it is costing us flexibility with other game plans and I’m pretty sure every coach in the league has got the memo. Now I’m not sure that Tracc gets how much is done for him - and without doubt he does a huge amount to prepare himself, but these poor me vibes kind of stick in the back of my throat. I can understand the Coach thinking the ‘Tracc Play’ is stale and needs a rebuild. Tracc not being onboard with that or whatever leads us to the current scenario. I dearly love the bull like power and leg drive, but almost equally (big disagreement in my family about this) I think his lack of confidence in his set shot kicking has become a cancer for other forwards, I love the manic miracle goals, but the percentage of routine money in the bank shots has dried up so badly I am not opening a vein about the prospect of him leaving. (Check back when he kicks 6 on us).