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Agree. I said trade him 3 years ago when we could have got a couple of midfielders for him, his value was that high. He now has no trade value.

What about urologists and proctologists?

Agree. Lose 2 games badly, yes and then the AFL takes over the club. Demetriou would laugh his head off at the suggestion. However, ask the AFL for some help, draft picks, money, reverse the fine, admin advice , sure that is feasible and would be seriously considered.

He is and it hasn't. Have spoken to him a few times. He is a realist. He is also very experienced in AFL football. We are a poor list and have a pathetic midfield. That can't be changed overnight, but it will be. More pain to come but it does need to change in the effort department. hardest challenge will be to keep everyone together and trying.

A Saints mate had this suggestion as a start. Relieve the Captains of their role this year and maybe the next and make them Vice Captains under a hard nut like Jones. Jones would lead from the front and the two Jack's could concentrate on their games and gain some more experience. It is very hard for two youngsters to lecture older more experienced players.

Know where you are coming from. How happy would Dees supporters be to see the Dees winning, even with a few [censored] in the team? We have become the nice, pretty, boys ( with beards ) soft, losers.

Agree.

For a start we have the worst midfield in the AFL. We could have drafted more mids over the last few years but instead chose talls who were no good.

Sickened to see how right I was, even though I understated it. BP has destroyed this club.

Statistically speaking.

This has to be crap. An official of the club and also father of a new player fighting with the Coach after the first game, hardly likely.

It certainly would.

And there is my hobby horse of the last few years. Agree completely. As the old footy saying goes," it's hard to pull up your socks if you arent' wearing any."

I can see us putting up a good fight in the first half and then getting run over, with the Bombers 14 day break over our 6 day break being a big factor. After the battering the players copped I am sure their effort will be AFL standard, I am just not convinced with their talent.

Wow!

I'm Bad by Michael Jackson. I, I who have Nothing by Ben E. King.. Crying by Roy Orbison. Will you still love me tomorrow? by the Shirelles. I just don't know what to do with myself by Dusty Springfield.

I had the pleasure of watching him on ABC TV while I was checking out Gysberts' performance.

Great, everyone is having coffee and banana cake but me. Could I put this post on the "whinge" thread?

Wish I could join you.

This site has so many threads now it is nearly unusable. We are getting threads on any thought that enters someones head. It is not a matter of being too lazy to trawl through threads, but rather people too lazy to post in a thread that covers their new thought. I can imagine the following threads as an example : 1. Should Pedersen be dropped 2. Should Pedersen have taken that mark. 3. Is Pedersen scared? 4. Pedersen was trying to tap the ball to a team mate. 5. Has Pedersen lost all confidence? 6. Should we have recruited Pedersen? 7. Did Pedersen play well other than the dropped mark? 8. Was Pedersen our worst player? 9. What is Pedersen's best position? 10. Can Pedersen play in the same side as Sellar when Jamar or Spencer plays? Plus another 100 threads all about Pedersen. This is the way the site is heading. Most of the threads revolve around last week's game and most could have easily been just posts, in a post game thread. The current situation is really putting me off the site. That is my opinion, you obviously disagree.

Has anyone been sacked yet. I am surprised that Rodan got dropped and not Byrnes. They both played poorly, but I thought Byrnes was far worse, in that he fumbled several times a few of which which led to Port goals. I still am not sure why we got him, there had to be better. Ben Warren who we discussed on here a bit would have been far better, much younger and quicker. I could never see the hunger for Pedersen. 2 games last year for the Roos and we were so desperate to get him. I suppose they all deserve another chance.

Is Kaspersky back as an MFC sponsor?

And yet despite that pathetic record, we were the only team thought good enough to win but which tanked.

I remember in 1981 we got the best Coach in the Country, our own Ron Barassi back and we won the spoon. After 5 years as Coach we were still crap. I will say this for the last time, players make the Coach. Get a decent list and we will improve even if Julia Gillard coached us. At the moment we have the worst list in the AFL. Pray to God that the new recruiting manager is good at his job, because the last one ( BP ) was hopeless.

Hands up all those who think we have a good midfield. Hands up all those who think we have a good list. Hands up all those who think we have good disposal. I think we are the worst in the AFL in all three areas. Who do I blame, I blame the recruiting manager over the last 5-6 years. I don't think any Coach can turn crap into cream. How was Clarkson going early on at the Hawks, hopeless, then came Buddy, Lewis, Cyril, Roughy, Hale, Gibson, etc etc etc, now he is a great Coach. Our recruiting has been littered with more abject failures than any other club. A half decent recruiter could have set us up with a competitive team, with all of the picks we have had.