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Agree. Spoke to him at length once at the Bentleigh club before he started getting a regular game and he was a lovely boy and so keen to do well at the club. Time does not make this any less sad, taken way too soon. Hope the club keeps his memory alive and all the best to Trish and his family and friends. Always a Dee, gone but not forgotten.

Well done WJ. I obviously did not see enough of RDB play as my best Dee has always been Robbie and best ever Matthews.

Thanks Deebest. Just briefly what would the Assistant Recruiting Manager's tasks be during the year. How does it change in the top role? I have always been interested as to what they do over a year when football is only played for part of it.

I can understand why certain people may not like CS, family grudges, job losses etc, but what has CC done to anyone, other than try and get the best for the MFC at all times.

That is an interesting point you make. I agree, which game was more shameful, the one in which the players tried their guts out and a kick after the siren beat them or the one in which they lay down and let an opposition run riot. I know which i find more disreputable and a blight on the game. Perhaps we should have a 5 month Inquisition into 186.

You can add all the rest of the draftees inc rookies and trades and it does look ok on paper. I suppose the sheer volume of changes gives hope. Then again we have drafted who we thought were good players before and been disappointed. Hopefully this batch give us something and blend well with and add improvement to the current list.

Happy New Year all and lets hope for a better 2013 for the Dees and a safe and happy year for all of us.

You mean TV.

With a stand in Recruiting Manager as well.

Sums it up nicely.

Tempting fate.

No it's not my website, but I started the thread and I am attached to it. You attack a popular thread and call for it to be merged, one that has many varied topics and nearly 3700 contributions and over 111000 views and then you resort to name calling. Well done.

And Mitch claps it through as it sails over his head, for another Dees goal.

Lets add WC to the list of removed flags then. You have won me.

Gawn to Rodan at the bounce, who receives a sensational shepherd from Viney, over to Toumpas, who kicks to Dawes, who handballs to Byrnes, who bombs to the goal square where Howe takes the mark of the year and coolly goals from a few metres. The Dees are on fire. Gee, Neeld has turned this team around say the media. Go Dees say the fans.

Drop the suspended sentence, findings that we didn't tank and that CC's joke was not funny to the AFL, an apology for the damage and disruption the Inquisition has caused the MFC, no fine to the club as CC's joke was his idea alone and then the AFL give us $250k more in grants next year. I could probably live with that. Even simpler, my solution posted above, no charges, case closed.

Seems like Petterd is being accused of making vile comments to women at the game and that his comments have been recorded. That won't appear in any Wilson column. At least his President seems totally uninterested.Hope it doesn't hinder his career at Tigers.

The mods wouldn't let me be one.

What would happen if a journo hinted at it? Pies to lose 2010 flag with Pendles and Daisy involved, Hawks to lose 2008 flag with Buddy and Roughy involved, Blues to lose 1995 Flag as a result of salary cap cheating and a number of those involved playing. Bombers flag of 2000 could also be at risk.Imagine the outpouring of support for us then, urging the AFL to make this all go away. .

Don't think there is any way the Football Manager can be deemed a Coach. He is not the Coach or an Assistant Coach, end of story.

You are correct as far as tanking goes if Bailey holds firm. Rule 19 will not have been proved to be broken. What may be happening here is that the AFL have gathered evidence of Officials telling staff to lose. That is not a breach of Rule 19, but there may be a nice little alternative in, "bringing the game into disrepute". That charge again will have its own intricacies, for example, an argument would be mounted that MFC instructions were private and the AFL through their Inquisition will have made them public. Who then brought the game into disrepute, the maker of confidential private communications or the the publisher of them. This case is so much more difficult than people think. Let me throw up another scenario for consideration. staff of the MFC have to comply with AFL rules but also do what is best for the MFC. Is getting draft picks better than a loss? The football world says yes as is evidenced by the CEO's comments on List Management and Experimentation and corroborated by nearly every football person who has been quoted on the subject. Remember the ex Carlton greats in the media urging a Blues loss to get Kreuzer. Where was the outrage from the AFL at that time? Where was the quoting of the rule then? Remember the AFL's greatest player Leigh Matthews a few weeks ago urging Freo to lose, to get a better chance in the finals. Likewise no AFL outrage at the suggestion. The AFL has countenanced our behaviour for as long as they have existed and in fact encouraged it. No, I can't see this going to Court as the AFL will lose any integrity it thinks it possesses. Senior AFL staff will go and maybe even the Commission itself. Litigation from disgruntled bookies and punters will be the next chapter after many other clubs are forcibly dragged into it. A half decent Counsel will destroy the AFL on this, let alone our eminent QC. I am aware you don't want enemies at AFL house but most of them could lose their jobs over this and maybe the new boys in their place would be grateful for the new jobs ( only joking ). Simple answer, simple solution, statement from the AFL something like this " after an extremely thorough investigation with no expense spared, there is insufficient evidence to lay any charges against the MFC or its officials, that would have a realistic possibility of being sustained by the Commission". Result, some unhappy media types, general relief in the football world and unbridled enthusiasm for a great new season of footy in 2013, for the greatest game in the world.

Clubhouse leader.

Think you are running last so far, with that effort.

They will love it then. Why don't we suggest stripping a few flags from teams that cheated with the salary cap. That should go down well.

You wouldn't be the only one.