John Demonic

They're after back to back trade week premierships

That describes his playing style.

The clash

What? He'll kick 55 goals, miss 5 games through injury and be in the top 5 for assists league wide, business as usual.

Given Frost wouldn't even be first depth with Omac + Lever working just fine this year. Surely Frost could be asked if he wanted to go, given a lack of opportunities with us.

Yeah. We're all popping in at various times due to being in different parts of the world. Stuff will be rehashed between different people.

This all hinges on whether we have permission to use next years first round pick. I'd have thought. Do we? Those media [censored] are so consumed with Hogan/May pick swapping, that they've never talked about this question.

Mahoney said stiffening up defence was one of 3 priorities we plan to address in trade week, this tells me that no back 6 arrangement we had this year is satisfactory going forward. So if Hogan stays, the question is do we have another recruit in mind? Do we wait for 1 year for May? Does Hogan staying/extending include his happiness to play anywhere in particularly at CHB?

Would like to hear mahoney answer a question of what will be done in defence if Hogan stays. Do we have a plan b recruit or May next year?

Something to do with Mahoney listing stiffening up defence as 1 of 3 priorities. Hogan at chb is speculative

"Yet the club is prepared to give a fringe ruckman a four-year deal. " Geez now i know how it feels to be a Labor MP taking a hammering from an agenda driven Murdoch rag

I'd eat a Sylvia Bennell [censored] sandwich for pick 5 & 6 though. Party in Bali on minimum afl wage for 3 years.

Fair enough. But I do think we're underselling him a little. Put him back in the middle where he was a runner up in the 2014 best and fairest (4th in 2016) with dedicated minutes and he can excel again. Becoming a regular 30 disposal player. Zaharakis pushed to wing, Dev Smith at HBF. His stats take a noticeable dip this year because of being played out of position. Anyway, the initial comment above about 'those fans' supposes that we're all on the same page in regards to Tysons value. I think he has a big upside that a few clubs will at least bite on a 30-40 pick. Perhaps that's not enough for Tipungwati, but i don't think it's as clear cut. A season or two more of inconsistency and he'd be potentially on the table to address a deficiency somewhere else. Re Garlett, well who knows if he can switch it on again with senior selection somewhere else. He isn't at a retirement age yet.

Tyson is depth because we bat deep (Well actually he was best 22 in our finals) - Essendon don't bat deep, therefore he's best 22. How is that madness? We're not 'sending' to a good home, we're trading because of surplus. Edit: And from my understanding from a few Bomber fans, Tipungwati is not a consistent performer. He can be patchy and also a one way runner. There are drawbacks to both Tipungwati & Tyson.

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If Tyson nominates Essendon. I wonder if we could prize McDonald-Tipungwati off of them. At first glance they'd be horrified to part with a 'cult' hero. But looking at Tysons numbers, he's a far superior and dependable player to have on a team thats lacking in the middle, he'd compliment Merrett and Heppell. Extracting and feeding it to them where they can do damage with their disposal on outside. Whereas in Tipungwati we get a stay at home crumber that offers elite pressure with his speed, something we've been missing to some degree. Throw in Garlett if need be to sweeten the deal.

Petraccattack forgot the golden rule of DL in that we hate every non mfc person with a burning hatred & Disgust. Shame.

I reckon this ones more apt for this thread

Cant you read tea leaves? They went to Darjeeling

Our young player are reaching their peak age in the next few years. It should offset the loss of VDB who is currently at his. A 25-26yo Petracca will be a sight to behold. Viney 24 right now, scary that he's getting better/stronger.

Yes. Why else would there be penis extension adverts on my page, if he wasnt extending.

But then again, defenders have the higher ratio of winning or 'nullifying' contests than forwards have of winning them. Might be the kind of role that suits his temperament.

Trade week is pretty darn complex you'd have to agree. Gold Coast trading out their contracted co-captain a year early to get a pick equating to what they'd get as compo a year later, balancing up the negative effect of holding on to a player and not going for the 'fresh reset. As are we balancing this issue with keeping Hogan. I just think we have to wait a week for it to play out. As others have said. Trust JT, he has the track record. Only in a year or two will we know if this is the one recruit that shifts many other pieces into place. And as others have said, we're in the business of list improvement, not of winning individual trades. If it's overs to make a trade move that gets us a premiership, so be it. Personally, I think if we do give a top 10 pick, then you'd expect that we'd be getting back 2nd's and 3rds, or swapping pick positions with them, in much the same way Adelaide gave two first round picks to get a 29 year old Bryce Gibbs, but in return got 2nds and 3rds, which made it more palatable. New list manager probably wants to just save face and make sure Gold Coast don't look like they're being screwed by showing the AFL world they're getting a top 10 pick. But in reality, pick swaps should show we're getting back plenty.