John Demonic

Wouldn't the last straw after these past two years trades, be an actual effect, like an ordinary defence or a forward line lacking scoring power? Or is it only about the symbolism of Mahoney winning a trade to you?

Let me simplify that equation:

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It's [censored]. The rumours been posted on reddit for a week, been an exhausting gig debating freo fans who are comparing it to a Harley Bennell situation. I don't know why i've bothered given how hot headed i've felt. Maybe some sense of duty to try and shift the narrative away from the [censored] in one corner of the football world. It's an easy life in here. I bet there are a few demonlanders on bigfooty fighting the good fight. Must be a [censored] show over there. Rant over.

Do we have any rumours of players we might be looking at drafting, trading for or picking up from a delisted club in the event of the following situations, or any personal suggestions on players to pick up? Hogan is traded, May comes in. Another 3rd tall forward? Hogan stays, May stays, Hold tight for a year? Or another KPD? Or if Hogan stays. May signs with another club. Another KPD?

Slight topic diversion, but do we have any rumours of players we might be looking at drafting, trading for or picking up from a delisted club in the event of different situations, Or any personal suggestions on players? Hogan is traded, May comes in. Another 3rd tall forward? Hogan stays, May stays, Hold tight for a year? Or another KPD? Or if Hogan stays. May signs with another club. Another KPD?

Would be magnificent tbh. Our TMAC/WEID/Hogan forward line becomes ELITE in the Riewold/Lynch, Kennedy/Darling level. Lever & Omac have great years, we capitalize on all close matches unlike last year, and have a full tilt at a premiership from the top 2 with a 3 game MCG pathway in the finals despite defence still being one 'fragile' area of our game. Steven May holds out for one year and we pick him up next year in our quest to go back to back. All areas of our team become A+

Pick 53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63 & 64 equates to pick 5. Do you think Gold Coast would do that deal? We might have to get rid of some fringe players to get the picks.

When you say things like "He’s not going there people. The negotiation is dead and buried." I instantly get visions of Grandpa Simpson shouting at a cloud.

We're not trying to win a negotiation, we're trying to improve our list.

Only really equates if you're using it for academy player really. Otherwise pick 40,41,42,43 would equal top 10 pick, which we know doesn't.

800 over 8 months. Lock it in

In regards to getting a trade done without Hogan picks. What happened to the "Gold Coast need players not picks" media discussion a few months back and us offering some players with a 2019 1st round pick?

@EnterTheDragon hasn't responded for 30 minutes. Should we call an ambulance?

You're missing the point. Weid got into the team right at an opportune moment when we had our backs against the wall and we responded. I don't think his inclusion was a defining factor in us beating WCE and GWS. So how would Hogan have gone in those games? Maybe he would have stepped up and made a big impact. The point is that Weid got the opportunity and Hogan didn't. Concluding that he can't play against top 8 teams, is the same as concluding Weid couldn't pre round 20, until he did.

Would love to hear a 4-way roundtable between Andy, Grapeviney, PJ & Special Robert this wednesday. Podcast #1 was a classic

I don't actually think the question of how Hogan goes against top sides has been answered yet. How did Weid go in that period while our midfield, defence and our coaches box were being crushed? He didn't play. But at the end of the year he got the opportunity and stepped up. Hogan never got that opportunity. It's only fair that he be assessed next year properly like Weid was, or not assessed at all.

You guys should try mosaic cake. You crush a few packets of any kind of biscuits and then pour over a cooled down sauce made of butter, melted chocolate powder, eggs, sugar and then put in the freezer to harden. No baking

That's what we should rename Freo's medical assessment to

I never said we should do that deal, i just said that 5 + Ed Langdon is a fairytale right now. We might dig in and pull off 5+23 if Freo cave, but the mental health rumours suggest otherwise. Getting Langdon instead of 23 seems fanciful imo

With all due respect, have you been asleep for a week? The dockers value Hogan at pick 11 + 23, not 5 and Ed Langdon. Mental health rumour spreading suggests they're not going to cave.

If Hogan commits for 5+ years, and another player doesn't. We're still in the same position as we are now, only we're probably more likely to get high draft picks that we can use to set us up with a gun for the 5-10 years after this window, or to immediately fill the gap left by the player through trade or FA Maybe the lofty goal of all players buying in and taking paycuts like other clubs, is an attainable goal too? Josh Kelly and Dustin Martin aren't wearing blue and white next year. (And neither is Tom Lynch)

Do we know clearly what the Steven May situation is with Gold Coast if we don't sign him this year? Are the rumours true about him touring Bulldog facilities? Is staying for one year untenable for him personally or the club? (not that they have any say) - is he willing to wait a year to become a demon? A Hogan committed for 5 years, and a freely acquired Steven May committed from 2020-2024 is the best situation here, so maybe the club should just put that lofty target in their sights and make it happen over the next 12 months.

Thankful to have a safe-space away from Freo fans here on demonland. Just reading the rumours on reddits AFL page and bigfooty does my head in. I'm going to have to avoid them like the plague until trade week is over.