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In these bleak times, we can still take enjoyment from Collingwood losing a match they should have won.

Guys, come on. This season is bad enough already without posters pretending to want to fight each other over a difference of opinion. Just put each other on ignore.

[censored] yeah Freo!

Will Buckley buckle under pressure and admit the buck stops with him for bucking the protocols? Buckley’s I’d say. Anyway it will cost him big bucks.

Along with the Tommy Mac selection we can say it was one of the poor selection moves. His impact was negative, Boak took him to the cleaners. ...If anyone needed to step up in the middle it was Angus but yet again he was left on the outer. We're often beaten at the selection table before we hit the ground... It was very definitely a mistake...

Has everyone forgotten we had a major football department review and overhaul a mere 9 months ago? We chose to have the coaches we have. Or we couldn't get who we wanted so had to settle for second, third best. Lots of names being thrown around. Looks like wishful thinking. I mean why would the names being mentioned want to come to the mfc. Re Richardson. I was critical of his appointment and I've had a really good look at his CV. I see nothing that says he is a good coach or has been part of a successful club. He leaves the Saints and they now sit 3rd on the ladder. I have yet to see a positive impact of his recruitment to mfc. I hope someone can shed some light on why we hired him.

Complrtely agree. A bizarre selection. I thought we'd play him back, but he said prior to the match he'd play midfield and a bit forward. If he was manning Boak in the middle did he follow Boak to half back as well? We've already got Gus and Harmes being played out of position because we can't fit them in the midfield and we bring in yet another mid? Did they want to use Harmes on Gray and Gus on a wing, therefore neither could play on Boak? I just don't understand the thinking. Can anyone constructively illuminate me on this?

Sheeds would have shaken the whole Club. which is exactly what we needed. We have had numerous opportunities over the years, but appointing First Time Coaches is easier, and they behave themselves

Good stuff Gorgo....2 seconds ! Keep em coming. Consider yourself selected for the upcoming spring carnival... ...not long now. Stay safe gang.

Wow. That is a disgrace!!

I was told this by an ex assistant coach at the Dees back in 2015 when we bumped into him while we were having beers and a BBQ just before new years eve in Corowa. He comes up every year during the summer period by the Murray with his family. Melbourne sought out Ross Lyon, Michael Malthouse and also Alistair Clarkson at the time. The theme was to go for an experienced coach as the board felt the players needed a fair shake up by a good hard taskmaster. When they spoke to Ross Lyon he declined as he had already told the club that he had committed to the saints. Garry Lyon and Ross Lyon shared the same manager in Craig Kelly, and Kelly even told Lyon that Ross had verbally committed to the saints but just hadn't signed as of yet. Ross then behind everyone's back has a secret meeting with the dockers and the rest is history. Even his manager Craig Kelly was caught completely off guard. Melbourne wanted him, but Ross had bigger things going on. Clarkson was offered a huge package deal. Garry Lyon and to a degree Stynes really pushed Clarkson hard, but he was contracted at the time and knew that a dynasty was only around the corner. Lyon then spoke to Malthouse. Mick had already confirmed that he was taking time off coaching (this was in 2011 after he finished up at the pies) and instead was looking at going into the media. It was there that Malthouse Apparently gave a glowing and raving endorsement about one of his young and up and coming assistant coaches in Mark Neeld. After the Dees missed out on their targeted experience men, they then changed their direction and interviewed the likes of Brendan McCartney, Alan Richardson and Mark Neeld. The rest is history as they say. All I will say is Garry Lyon tried what every melbourne supporter wanted at the time and that was go for the experienced coach we needed. Unfortunately we just ran out of options it seems. I dont blame Garry for the Neeld [censored] up.

Yeah umm no. The last time he was involved seriously with the club, he brought Mark Neeld in. Garry is a passionate MFC supporter, but he should be nothing more or nothing less.

Am I alone in being puzzled about Tom’s role on Thursday? Don’t misunderstand me, he tried hard and was not too bad. But he was given the role of running with Boak. This meant that when Boak was in the middle for centre bounces, Sparrow was there too. problem was that this meant that one of our gun midfielders was not there. Surely, in Clarry, Viney, Trac and Brayshaw we have an excellent midfield. I would have told Sparrow to pick up Boak outside the centre bounces. I might be wrong but I thought Tracc was in there less than normal

Really feel for you all back in Victoria at this time, when the team performs like that. At least I have my boys both playing juniors on Sundays and we can go and watch Ammos games every Saturday.

FFS he was asked for advice, that may have been rubbish but the buck stops with the decision makers at the club at the time. Schwab, the Board and Jimmy have to wear those decisions. To me when looking for the root cause for that disastrous period I always end up looking at Schwab, Connelly to some extent and unfortunately Jimmy who didn’t realise Schwab was a toxic influence on recruiting and football operations.

Suggest you crack at Bartlett about his 'wingeing'. Tell him to stop watching and that he is not the type of fan you want in the MFC.

I think some people are confusing performance of the team and a person's personal vlife, which Ithink is not becoming of a logical discussion of our Football Club. The media do not run MFC and are renowned at making mountains out of molehills. We are in danger of cintinuing the vindictiveness . Before I get shot at,there is nothing wrong with players liking a coach and success is not branded on fear. Apparently he is a very good person to work with, so please cut out the personal "sniping "

This is a [censored] poor post. Criticism for his coaching is warranted. Getting personal like this is weak as p iss.

You are getting personal now, no need for it.

If so, he joins a group that includes Daniher and Paul Roos of coaches who regularly saw the players serve up soft efforts in weeks where it looked like they just couldn't be bothered. As I said to one of Goodwins friends not long after he took the job...he doesn't know what he's getting himself into. At MFC, a coach can't even rely on the players showing personal pride in their intensity and effort levels consistently. F#$ked if i know how you can develop and implement a gameplan when blokes squib it as regularly as ours do.

Why didnt you post this after the hawks game? I disagree with about 80% of your commentary

Where is the coaching and development? Oliver came in with heaps of promise but hasn't improved and had gone backwards if anything. Brayshaw has not improved since coming to the club. Weideman hasn't improved other than natural development that comes with a more mature body. TMac never developed beyond the raw athleticism he had before his foot injury. Salem showed promise early and has not improved, no development since his first game against the Swans. Petracca and Gawn are the only two players on our list who can honestly say they've taken their game to another level in the last 5 years. Maybe Viney as well. Jones developed earlier on in his career. The evidence suggests that unless the players have the inner drive or footy IQ to develop off their own bat the club will not help them get there. It's an utter indictment on the culture of the club.