I can't believe they tried this kid for a second go after a dismal first round performance. There is no hope in garland at all. Since he arrived at the club he has done nothing. Has too many flaws... He has no size, has poor decision making, and is not accountable in defense.

Saw him play the practice match against the roos at casey and noticed many many wrongs. A potential delist I thought at the time. Only to my suprise I see him listed as a starting player round 1. I don't see any future in garland. If he's stays on against the cats i will be furious!

Does anyone know what's on this guys mind when playing??

everyone looks bad when you lose by the best part of 200 points in 2 weeks, especially if you're playing your 4th game

lay off him a bit til you win a game, if he still looks like a [censored] then you can hang [censored] on him

everyone looks bad when you lose by the best part of 200 points in 2 weeks, especially if you're playing your 4th game

lay off him a bit til you win a game, if he still looks like a [censored] then you can hang [censored] on him

he looks out of his depth at senior level.

drop him

Many here argued that players like Ward, Godders, Ferg, Brown and Bizzell had to be delisted. I agreed and still do.

It's a pity those that argued this didn't realise that it meant we effectively delisted our depth and that players who are not ready for AFL footy would play if we had even a few injuries.

Garland may not be up to it YET. I think he will turn into a fine player but I maybe wrong.

It's a big ask for him to be doing his apprenticeship in the seniors in a non competitive team and even worse that supporters don't support.

Twice in the 2nd quarter yesterday on the GSS wing, Junior kicked the ball to Garland and he just waited for the ball to come to him. This happened right in front of where i was sitting. James told him to present and to meet the ball. A WB player came from behind and knocked it away. Then seconds later, junior kicked it again to Garland (virtually in the same spot) and it happened again.

The members in our area were very frustrated and let him know about it. (Junior was furious) Garland just waved his hand and jogged away. Both times it was a pathetic attempt. If he does not want to play AFL footy with the right mind in place, send him back to the Sandy reserves to force him to work his way back into the team. By then he would atleast be a little more aggressive.

I know everyone else was pretty pathetic yesterday, but those 2 identical incidents within the space of 20 seconds are unforgivable.

Whilst I agree that Garland's performances this year have been mediocre, he like many others are not playing on instinct, but seem to have too many thoughts going through their head.

It worries me when after a game, players come out and say that we didn't follow the coach's instructions. It suggests that the "team rules" are too complex.

If Garland was allowed to play instinctively in his rightful position up forward, I think he has got a future at AFL level.

he's a poor mans Brent Grgic

It worries me when after a game, players come out and say that we didn't follow the coach's instructions. It suggests that the "team rules" are too complex.

Great point.

I completely agree and voiced similar concerns in the Brock McLean thread.

I dont think they are that complex.. How complex can football get really. ?? lol. What it requires is total committment to a method and belief in yourself and other your team mates to also do what is needed. if this isnt carried off then it can look bad. It looks bad !!

I dont think they are that complex.. How complex can football get really. ?? lol. What it requires is total committment to a method and belief in yourself and other your team mates to also do what is needed. if this isnt carried off then it can look bad. It looks bad !!

I think the problem Bub is that the players look like they must do one thing when in a certain situation. For example, they must handball and run the ball out of defence, even if it is not the best option. As a result, if there isn't anyone to handball to they panic, as if they don't know what to do.

Which is crap.

Because they are all footballers and all got drafted becuase they know how to play football. Like you said, it's not that complex.

Personally I was a bit worried when I saw the players taking written tests about the gameplan. Time will tell.

I think it is a bit early to make a call on Garland and the other kids. JC would not have got a touch yesterday. Poor team form is poor team form and the kids get killed. Clearly the kids need more time to develop.

Bring back Moloney and Holland - maybe Wheels and Rivers and Bate.

Give this kid a go lets face it most the team is playing at his standard and those with 50 plus games we should be more down on .

Many here argued that players like Ward, Godders, Ferg, Brown and Bizzell had to be delisted. I agreed and still do.

It's a pity those that argued this didn't realise that it meant we effectively delisted our depth and that players who are not ready for AFL footy would play if we had even a few injuries.

Garland may not be up to it YET. I think he will turn into a fine player but I maybe wrong.

It's a big ask for him to be doing his apprenticeship in the seniors in a non competitive team and even worse that supporters don't support.

Good post Fan.

I just cant be believe the vitriol towards this player under the circumstances. Amazing.

It worries me when after a game, players come out and say that we didn't follow the coach's instructions. It suggests that the "team rules" are too complex.

No. Its says much about the players. And many of them will go at year end.

DB's press conference was that they need to practice it and they do.

Give this kid a go lets face it most the team is playing at his standard and those with 50 plus games we should be more down on .

I agree, give him a go, he is 19 and 191 cm tall, looks to have some pace. Not many key position kids are going that well at 19. and usually they are the superstars like Reiwoldt.

If our supporters on this forum were coaches we would never get a KPP as we have zero patience and they take longer to develop.

Both Garland and Frawley need all the opportunities and who knows one may become a very good shut down defender.

I say give them a go. No use in sacking them after a bad performance, as they probably learn twice as fast than at Sandy.

Have a go at the senior players like Green who have had 8 years now and just disappear completely at times.

I think I was a little coldhearted last night. It was 1am and just came home from a 21st copping it from my mates about my side and unthinkably lashed out my anger. Though I’ve always had my concerns about Garland. But as a group it’s disappointing to see the lack of spirit as it affects our confidence, game play, and the drive to play as a team. Once we get things rolling the younger kids may show some promise but I don’t see it coming anytime soon.

Frawley needs to come in for some more game time, would like to see Mcnamara have a go too actually.

Many here argued that players like Ward, Godders, Ferg, Brown and Bizzell had to be delisted. I agreed and still do.

It's a pity those that argued this didn't realise that it meant we effectively delisted our depth and that players who are not ready for AFL footy would play if we had even a few injuries.

Indeed.

I know everyone else was pretty pathetic yesterday, but those 2 identical incidents within the space of 20 seconds are unforgivable.

It was terrible to watch.

He's 19, he's played 4 games of AFL.. give him a chance...

The two mistakes on the wing were nto good, but where was the voice from team mates? No where until the ball had gone away when 4 or 5 team mates got stuck into him... He was standing flat footed whilst the lollipop was spooned his way.

He is like Buckley they do some very ave things but we have to stick with them as there is not much else to come in...

Hopefully Maric comes in this week

I agree, give him a go, he is 19 and 191 cm tall, looks to have some pace. Not many key position kids are going that well at 19. and usually they are the superstars like Reiwoldt.

If our supporters on this forum were coaches we would never get a KPP as we have zero patience and they take longer to develop.

Both Garland and Frawley need all the opportunities and who knows one may become a very good shut down defender.

I say give them a go. No use in sacking them after a bad performance, as they probably learn twice as fast than at Sandy.

Have a go at the senior players like Green who have had 8 years now and just disappear completely at times.

Green is becoming a cameleon again, never gets within touching distance of opponents. I lose sight of him as he seems to blend in with the grass, then zappo, he's gone.

time for a bit of a bump here

i like what i see with garland

great goal on the weekend

bailey obviously sees something in him so lets give him some time

I have changed my tune on him a bit as well. Hopefully he can buck the trend of the MFC put some muscle on so he can compete in the contested stuff a bit better though.

I reckon as Bailey continues putting his faith into him, his confidence will grow and he will attack the game a little more, i think he's looking much better of lat

Kids and faults go hand in hand. Not many can come in and set the AFL on fire. He is a boy in a mans game at the moment, and my general feeling is that he should go back to sandy and get a better understanding of the game at a senior level.

That said, he still has potential, not as much as we would have liked, but he still young enough to give another year to. By the end of next season we will know whether Garland is a keeper, or a complete and utter waste of time.

Give him a go, when he has racked up 20+ games we could see some really big upside to this kid (i hope)

I think he might develop into quite a handy player, he has great pace which is a huge asset for a defender.

garland has played 7 games ffs! give the ppor kid a go! i like garland and apperently he is the quickest player over 100m so thats really handy for a defender! if he can put on a heap of muscle then by god he will be just as good as goldsack from collingwood

Green is becoming a cameleon again, never gets within touching distance of opponents. I lose sight of him as he seems to blend in with the grass, then zappo, he's gone.

Not many players can learn to play in the seniors & still maintain their self belief. I believe Garland is one with a very strong mental resolve who seems that he can. He hasn't played a lot of footy & is learning late, but gee, he's a good learner. If he's just learning & is still able to hold his spot just imagine how he will be once he's played 80 - 90 games, oh yeah, that must be why they're fast tracking him...