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Only a few weeks ago, ppl wanted this bloke delisted.

After some very good games, i'm sure ppl have jumped ships from but my question is should we trade him for prob. a second round pick or keep him?

IMO. Trade.

With the season shot, our priorities should be giving kids a game but also giving the flawed talents like Wheatley, Miller, Jamar, CJ, Warnock every opportunity to shine. If they do well, their price goes up, if they fail- we lose anyway.(More then likely they are all close to being delisted which will be disappointing as we won't get a return for their talents).

Wheatley's a prime example to try to inflate our playas price.

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I never wanted him delisted

Whoever did has no idea

He was one of our best players in 2005, in fact he was in our top 10 most important

Injury ruined his 2006 season

now he is fit and on fire

he is easily in our best 22

And that has always been the case

Posted
Only a few weeks ago, ppl wanted this bloke delisted.

After some very good games, i'm sure ppl have jumped ships from but my question is should we trade him for prob. a second round pick or keep him?

IMO. Trade.

With the season shot, our priorities should be giving kids a game but also giving the flawed talents like Wheatley, Miller, Jamar, CJ, Warnock every opportunity to shine. If they do well, their price goes up, if they fail- we lose anyway.(More then likely they are all close to being delisted which will be disappointing as we won't get a return for their talents).

Wheatley's a prime example to try to inflate our playas price.

Wheatley has always played his best football on the wing running into the forward line, and unfortunately that has only been in about 10% of his games over his career. (More like 60% at when playing for Sandy).

Hopefully under a new coach, and with the emergence of Petterd and Frawley as mobile backline players, he can continue to play further up the ground and show those not convinced like yourself his true colours.

FWIW His is NOT a small defender nor a TALL one. Oh and he is not an inside player either. He is a reciever and deliverer, just like TJ. He has the greatest weapon you can have in modern football. An accurate long kick!!

IMO I would not trade him. He is the age and has the experience that we will sorely lack on our list once the elder statesmen on our list retire in the next year or two.

GO Dees

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I never wanted him delisted

Whoever did has no idea

He was one of our best players in 2005, in fact he was in our top 10 most important

Injury ruined his 2006 season

don't get me wrong. i rate wheatley and believe his 2005 form is his true form. ( as shown in the past weeks).

but he's 26-27 and massive question marks over being injury prone.

Don't mind if we keep him but second round pick sounds tempting. (Nothing less then 2nd round draft pick.)

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My understanding is he was one player who was put on the trade table in a big way last year and got no worthwhile nibbles.

IMO he's a fair-to-good player who is far more value to us as a player than he is as trade currency. A keeper for mine.

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His kicking is too good to get rid off. We have gone from a team a couple years ago with some of the best field kicking to a team that has very average skills around the ground....

We wouldnt ged anything for him if we were to trade so we should retain him. However offer one year deals so when we find are replacement he can filter out of the system.

Wheats is a handy player to have on our list even though i think he is alergic to the weights room after all these years.

Posted

Im not one that likes Paul Wheatley.

I would like to see him traded.

I dont dis-like him(anymore) as I understand that he cant play any better than he did yesterday.

If it does mean putting him on a wing and accepting he is a receiver, fine.

I just always hoped his talent would lend itself to be more of a really good backman.

But I accept now rather than denigrate him.

My problems with him are:

He cant stay on his feet during a one on one and its a real hole in his game.

When he is in a position to enter the fray he stands back, AAron Davey goes in harder.

It is just my opinion... but Id like to see him Ward and Brown go at years end.


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Only a few weeks ago, ppl wanted this bloke delisted.

After some very good games, i'm sure ppl have jumped ships from but my question is should we trade him for prob. a second round pick or keep him?

IMO. Trade.

With the season shot, our priorities should be giving kids a game but also giving the flawed talents like Wheatley, Miller, Jamar, CJ, Warnock every opportunity to shine. If they do well, their price goes up, if they fail- we lose anyway.(More then likely they are all close to being delisted which will be disappointing as we won't get a return for their talents).

Wheatley's a prime example to try to inflate our playas price.

keep , apart from the fact he is playing well, listening to Bizz he is the best clubman, organises stuff for his fellow players

Posted
It all depends on what the deal is.

Doesn't it always ;) ?!!!

Posted
Doesn't it always ;) ?!!!

Your Highness, not for those who blindingly say keep without looking at what is across the table as part of a trade.

Posted
Your Highness, not for those who blindingly say keep without looking at what is across the table as part of a trade.

.........Or for those that blindly say "trade" I would think!!!

Posted

Keep, but obviously if the offer is right you'd trade him, but I doubt we'd get offered much for him.

Posted
Only a few weeks ago, ppl wanted this bloke delisted.

I think he has a place in the AFL... it could be on our list, but as far as I'm concerned he's not the kind of player that will be among those that win you a flag. But then a late pick in a shallowdraft probably won't either, and a late pick is all we'd get.

There are HEAPS of players who won't be with the club next year. He could be one of them, but he probably won't be... and he's very unlikely to be delisted. I'm happy with that.

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Your Highness, not for those who blindingly say keep without looking at what is across the table as part of a trade.

...which is why I found it doubtful he'll be traded. Unless he's part of a complicated deal I think it unlikely that anything we get in return for him on his own is ever going to amount to the fair-good value he has in our side.


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I think he has a place in the AFL... it could be on our list, but as far as I'm concerned he's not the kind of player that will be among those that win you a flag.

Rowan Jones, Lewis Roberts-Thompson, Josh Mahoney, Gary Moorcroft etc.....

Premiership teams need all types of players, I dont see why Wheatley with his brilliant kick, speed and versatility can not be part of a Premiership team

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Rowan Jones, Lewis Roberts-Thompson, Josh Mahoney, Gary Moorcroft etc.....

Premiership teams need all types of players, I dont see why Wheatley with his brilliant kick, speed and versatility can not be part of a Premiership team

Steven Armstrong.

There have been some stinkers with flags to their name.

Posted
...which is why I found it doubtful he'll be traded. Unless he's part of a complicated deal I think it unlikely that anything we get in return for him on his own is ever going to amount to the fair-good value he has in our side.

Agreed. It would be part of a bigger deal but I dont discount it. But failing that he should be at MFC in 2008.

Posted
Premiership teams need all types of players, I dont see why Wheatley with his brilliant kick, speed and versatility can not be part of a Premiership team

Just fill in the other 21 squares........

Posted

As I've said before, a keeper. Only 26 so he'll be around for a few years yet.

Wing is where it's at for Wheatley though - needs to be given more scope to attack.

Playing as a wingman he can push back and play defensively (after all, he played there for x years), but we can also utilise his skills on the counter-attack and get him pushing forward and kicking some long goals for us.

Posted

wheatleys kicking is great.. he kicks long and direct thats what i like to see in a player... i also to believe he should be played on a wing and kicking in to the forward line... 2005 was his best year by far IMO....

he is more valuable to us at the club than being traded..

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