I think there’s a lot of similarities between our club and Carlton. The main one being that the players hold too much power and sook when they don’t get what they want.

Edited September 2Sep 2 by Ethan Tremblay

3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

I can categorically tell you that this happens, as I happen to know a very well known Geelong player who shall remain nameless who is getting paid well below market worth, but has a parcel of land worth millions.

Geelong is very clever in the way they do it, it makes it almost impossible to prove, as the land does not belong to Geelong or anyone officially employed by them.

The investigation into them was a total sham, conducted by a former Geelong employee.

Why is there so much interest of the AFL (and Vic government) in Geelong being perennial contenders?

It's not like they are one of the big clubs.

Is it more politically driven? As compare to financially driven.

3 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

None of such transactions would go thru Geelong's accounts. It would be via a third party and the AFL wouldn't have the right to audit it. Quite possible the 3rd party is a company or a trust. No hope there for the AFL to 'follow the money trail'.

But it still needs to be a legal transfer.

Potential to make money from the land:

• a 'peppercorn rent' to avoid it being purchased at market value. It could change legal status when the player retires. (DL legal eagles may confirm).

• the land may have potential for rezoning thus increasing its future value and a financial windfall.

• The player could create a farm thus allowing him to be classified as a 'primary producer' for income tax purposes. Given the types of expense deductions allowed and player marginal tax rate that would be a fairly juicy perk.

There are other 3rd party perks rumoured for Geelong players and their families.

I've long held the view that Geelong player salaries should be bench marked to the equivalent palyers in the league. That is really easy to do. The AFL should make them explain any significant deviations.

Benchmark salaries like the NBA does.

The concept of MAX player comes to mind. That would apply to the likes of Curnow, Bayley Smith, Cameron.

Imagine the response from the AFL if Goodwin was appointed as the new chief of leadership and performance at one of our long-term sponsors. Or if Max Gawn’s wife was a brand ambassador for a fashion project that was owned by the club. Geelong, the AFL and whoever conducted the ‘Investigation’ stink.

On 02/09/2025 at 08:39, Redleg said:

Graham Wright is realising he has backed a Coach that some players don’t want to play under.

Hope they continue unravelling

Fixed 😉

On 02/09/2025 at 10:03, Jaded No More said:

I can categorically tell you that this happens, as I happen to know a very well known Geelong player who shall remain nameless who is getting paid well below market worth, but has a parcel of land worth millions.

Geelong is very clever in the way they do it, it makes it almost impossible to prove, as the land does not belong to Geelong or anyone officially employed by them.

The investigation into them was a total sham, conducted by a former Geelong employee.

Reality is... if folk have access to various markets, financial, commodity, real.estate etc... the manipulation of assets is child's play .

A shelf company here, another there, trusts... If folk don't think this happens .... well..... Carlton used to be crass and crude in their methods but certain non cbd efforts are far better packaged.

Even easier today with CRYPTO

It goes on 😉

Great. So it's 1993 again.

On 02/09/2025 at 10:09, Redleg said:

Would anyone on here be shocked if Danger, Cameron or Stewart were on $100k a year?

Would anyone be shocked here if the AFL wasn’t completely corrupt?

1 hour ago, Young Angus said:

Would anyone be shocked here if the AFL wasn’t completely corrupt?

I don’t think ‘completely corrupt’, but I do think they’ll do pretty much anything to protect the ‘brand’ and big clubs.

26 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I don’t think ‘completely corrupt’, but I do think they’ll do pretty much anything to protect the ‘brand’ and big clubs.

And the dollars!

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Reality is... if folk have access to various markets, financial, commodity, real.estate etc... the manipulation of assets is child's play .

A shelf company here, another there, trusts... If folk don't think this happens .... well..... Carlton used to be crass and crude in their methods but certain non cbd efforts are far better packaged.

Even easier today with CRYPTO

It goes on 😉

The reality is some clubs have fabulously wealthy supporters who don’t mind chipping in a million or three under the table. It appears we don’t.

30 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

The reality is some clubs have fabulously wealthy supporters who don’t mind chipping in a million or three under the table. It appears we don’t.

We do, some have been incredibly generous.

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I don’t think ‘completely corrupt’, but I do think they’ll do pretty much anything to protect the ‘brand’ and big clubs.

I think protecting their exorbitant salaries is their #1 priority

On 01/09/2025 at 20:06, adonski said:

Curnow making Trac look like an amateur! The boy is running to the HILLS!

Same manager as Petracca had. Robbie D’Orazio, he will botch this one too and maybe Curnow can ditch him like Trac did after last year's debacle 😁

On 03/09/2025 at 14:46, beelzebub said:

Fixed 😉

I am seeing it more as a clean out of those with bad attitudes. Needs to be done. Much better than swimming in circles.

23 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I don’t think ‘completely corrupt’, but I do think they’ll do pretty much anything to protect the ‘brand’ and big clubs.

🤔a little bit pregnant, a little bit dead...... just a tad corrupt ??

Who let the Snoop out.... woof..

The logo of the AFL ought to be a Chameleon holding a ball. Replace the S on Sherrin with a $ 😉

Where's the riddler when you need him? Any bird related rumors this off season?

On 02/09/2025 at 10:39, ijustwannaseeaflag said:

So who owned the land before it passed to the player? And what is Geelongs role in that?

Geelong married the player

I’ve got a mate who went to school and is good mates with Sam Flanders.

Flanders 100% wants out of GC purely to move home to Melbourne.

Apparently he’s a country lad, super simple operator who’s not after much, so the club has to appeal to that side of him.

Hopefully we can nab him.

The Dees to delist 9 just ask Dan !!!!

26 minutes ago, GawnOfTheDead said:

I’ve got a mate who went to school and is good mates with Sam Flanders.

Flanders 100% wants out of GC purely to move home to Melbourne.

Apparently he’s a country lad, super simple operator who’s not after much, so the club has to appeal to that side of him.

Hopefully we can nab him.

Casey is closer to Fish Creek than most

45 minutes ago, Greg Schneider said:

Casey is closer to Fish Creek than most

Did someone say Fish Creek 🥰

2 hours ago, Greg Schneider said:

Casey is closer to Fish Creek than most

God's Country Cranbourne - Pakenham, the gate to the Gippsland.

Imagine if zach Merritt does want to go to hawthorn. The essenscum fans would riotl

On 03/09/2025 at 16:48, Ethan Tremblay said:

I don’t think ‘completely corrupt’, but I do think they’ll do pretty much anything to protect the ‘brand’ and big clubs.

But explain Eagles, Carlton and Essendon, mega-clubs of yore. According to my (incomplete) theory of quantum mechanics they are heading towards entropy. Everything else is going down the Geelong freeway.