1 minute ago, Nietaphart said:

Goodwin is an employee and should be respected, regardless of what is occurring within the club and the anger from members.

It seems Green didn’t address what you (plus thousands of members) wanted, so let transfer the frustration and anger at Green because too many here can’t self regulate themselves.

I would be disgusted (more so than where we are at) if the club treated our Premiership winning coach with such disrespect.

I have to say, I’ve been withholding from saying this for weeks, but might as well just say it now..

I really don’t like the Sack Goody thread. I understand why it exists, it’s a reasonable discussion, but reading through it sometimes all I see is spite, and anger.

Goodwin presided over a great time for our club, during a very difficult period. For several years there we were standard setters, and if not for poor kicking on the day, and a career ending hit to one of our favourite sons.. who knows, maybe we would’ve got our MCG premiership.

I feel like that gets forgotten too much on that thread, as it does in this discussion.

I’ve come around to the notion that Goody needs to go, but I will also respect him immensely for what he gave us and feel uncomfortable with the way he is often spoken about in this place.

49 minutes ago, beelzebub said:
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There wasn't any mention of the Board Meeting or what they might be addressing.
He managed to drive right around that.
We aren't stupid. The club has long taken many of us for fools.


All I'm saying is that posters wanted something to happen now, and that can't happen until the board meets. All he did was acknowledge the issue now, it's over to them.

Honestly, what do you want the club to do today that would actually make us better next year and beyond?

The decisions have to be made at the end of the year. Making us look unstable toward the end of a season didn’t do us any favours in ‘24 with the Tracc mess, and it won’t help us this year. We just need to hold the line, and then hold the right people to account at season end.

There’s no point acting out of emotion. It won’t bring the right people to the club, and that’s what we need to get better - the right people.

10 minutes ago, Nietaphart said:

Goodwin is an employee and should be respected, regardless of what is occurring within the club and the anger from members.

It seems Green didn’t address what you (plus thousands of members) wanted, so let transfer the frustration and anger at Green because too many here can’t self regulate themselves.

I would be disgusted (more so than where we are at) if the club treated our Premiership winning coach with such disrespect.

Cut the [censored].. There is nothing disrespectful in acknowledgement of the issue at hand, the poor performances and those whose job it is to do better.

There is nothing disrespectful in suggesting he (SG) might be accountable at a Board Meeting. This is what this business is all about.

Couldn't give a care about your 'disgust' . That's something for you to deal with

15 minutes ago, watchtheeyes said:

I have to say, I’ve been withholding from saying this for weeks, but might as well just say it now..

I really don’t like the Sack Goody thread. I understand why it exists, it’s a reasonable discussion, but reading through it sometimes all I see is spite, and anger.

Goodwin presided over a great time for our club, during a very difficult period. For several years there we were standard setters, and if not for poor kicking on the day, and a career ending hit to one of our favourite sons.. who knows, maybe we would’ve got our MCG premiership.

I feel like that gets forgotten too much on that thread, as it does in this discussion.

I’ve come around to the notion that Goody needs to go, but I will also respect him immensely for what he gave us and feel uncomfortable with the way he is often spoken about in this place.

Voice of reason.

3 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Cut the [censored].. There is nothing disrespectful in acknowledgement of the issue at hand, the poor performances and those whose job it is to do better.

There is nothing disrespectful in suggesting he (SG) might be accountable at a Board Meeting. This is what this business is all about.

Couldn't give a care about your 'disgust' . That's something for you to deal with

Calm down pal. Cut the abuse.

2 minutes ago, Redlagged said:

Calm down pal. Cut the abuse.

Lol... abuse .. my my..

Aren't you cute

Just now, beelzebub said:

Lol... abuse .. my my..

Aren't you cute

And grow up while you're about it.

1 hour ago, watchtheeyes said:

But you can’t put the cart before the horse. It would be inappropriate for him to cast doubt on the coach’s position without due process, there would be a feeding frenzy in the press.

Fair enough… perhaps he should have waited until after appropriate meetings had been had… I just get the feeling that his rather predictable letter has created more questions than it answers; but yes, I do understand (and appreciate) where you are coming from.

Edited 10 hours ago10 hr by hardtack

Brad acknowledged performance was not good enough and didn’t reach expectations. I’m not sure why he should isolate Goody (although I don’t want him coaching in 2026).

I could not give a rats about your multiple posts saying the same ole, same ole every day.

But continue to do so. It’s a public chat forum about our club.

6 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Cut the [censored].. There is nothing disrespectful in acknowledgement of the issue at hand, the poor performances and those whose job it is to do better.

There is nothing disrespectful in suggesting he (SG) might be accountable at a Board Meeting. This is what this business is all about.

Couldn't give a care about your 'disgust' . That's something for you to deal with

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Lol... abuse .. my my..

Aren't you cute

C’mon Bub. Stop being disrespectful

1 minute ago, Nietaphart said:

Brad acknowledged performance was not good enough and didn’t reach expectations. I’m not sure why he should isolate Goody (although I don’t want him coaching in 2026).

I could not give a rats about your multiple posts saying the same ole, same ole every day.

But continue to do so. It’s a public chat forum about our club.

I ..wasn't particularly suggesting he ought to isolate Goody. I thought he might address the Coaching and Football Dept as items of discussion for the impending meeting especially as they were agenda'd anyway. They seem topical after all.

1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

I ..wasn't particularly suggesting he ought to isolate Goody. I thought he might address the Coaching and Football Dept as items of discussion for the impending meeting especially as they were agenda'd anyway. They seem topical after all.

You post suggested Green pointing out SG being made accountable to the Board in his letter to members.

2 minutes ago, Nietaphart said:

You post suggested Green pointing out SG being made accountable to the Board in his letter to members.

Isn't he ?

Just now, beelzebub said:

Isn't he ?

Clarify for me. Should Green isolate SG in his letter to members, or not?

17 minutes ago, Nietaphart said:

Clarify for me. Should Green isolate SG in his letter to members, or not?

No. But certainly could mention in context of those in charge of coaching, selecting and managing the team. He's in that mix, as are others. And not one , nor any roles mentioned in his 'nothing' letter. One between that only came about as a result of our 'record breaking' performance ...or non-performance yesterday.

The Elephant(s) were carefully ignored.

Not for the first time

2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

No. But certainly could mention in context of those in charge of coaching, selecting and managing the team. He's in that mix, as are others. And not one , nor any roles mentioned in his 'nothing' letter. One between that only came about as a result of our 'record breaking' performance ...or non-performance yesterday.

The Elephant(s) were carefully ignored.

Not for the first time

Green pointed out lack of performance on field, therefore highlighted the Football Department. That’s how I read it, without naming names.

No elephants, probably more vague than you wanted. Kudos to Green for writing a letter to the members. Many had an issue with Koffey for not addressing the members.

ok so he feels our pain. No hint that he knows what that pair of lights coming down the road is. Grom into the ******* job Brad!

Nothing standard letter to members... Not he coach mentioned very unhappy directors and senior supporters (unofficial power brokers)

Some action will be done, the question is what it will be?

ABC TV 7 o'clock news report stated that Brad Green had written 'a letter to members on behalf of the Board committing to bringing the Demons back to their glory days'.

Well, no, the letter 'only' said that the 'Board and [he] are committed to doing everything required to have our AFL program performing at the level we all expect'.

The latter could be interpreted as the former, by those expecting a return to the glory days (1950s/60s? 2021? 2021-23?) but it's just not what the letter said. Where and why does the media choose to apparently wilfully misrepresent? It's particularly surprising from the benign ABC news.

1 hour ago, watchtheeyes said:

I have to say, I’ve been withholding from saying this for weeks, but might as well just say it now..

I really don’t like the Sack Goody thread. I understand why it exists, it’s a reasonable discussion, but reading through it sometimes all I see is spite, and anger.

Goodwin presided over a great time for our club, during a very difficult period. For several years there we were standard setters, and if not for poor kicking on the day, and a career ending hit to one of our favourite sons.. who knows, maybe we would’ve got our MCG premiership.

I feel like that gets forgotten too much on that thread, as it does in this discussion.

I’ve come around to the notion that Goody needs to go, but I will also respect him immensely for what he gave us and feel uncomfortable with the way he is often spoken about in this place.

Completely agree.

IMV it reflects very poorly on our supporters how some talk.

Some post as though premierships should be automatic and can be accidental or flukes. God given things. It's ridiculous, naive and/or arrogant in a multi billion dollar industry to think this way.

Yesterday's finish was heinous and the last straw for me with Goody, but I saw people compare it to 186, we lost by a kick after the siren FFS.

I was at 186 and I was there yesterday. Completely different situations. We should be better than two straight bottom 4 finishes, but we are also not 186 level or even 148 level insipid. 148 was another I had the horror of seeing.

There is no doubt our fall from the top has been drastic. However, this does not undo the incredible 3 years we had at the top as pace setters, and no amount of potting in that thread will erase what Goody gave me and many other Melbourne supporters. Something of dreams and something I thought I'd never witness. We may not have been there to see it in person, but we won a [censored] flag.

Goody deserves respect for his tenure as one of our most successful coaches and certainly our most successful coach of the last 50 years. It's a huge achievement, and potting him repeatedly page after page doesn't reflect well on anyone.

I hope we can manufacture a dignified exit at the end of 2025, he deserves it. But with this administration, I don't trust them to make the right decision on any front. I hope I'm wrong.

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by Adam The God

2 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

The [censored] that made a threat to Goodwin has probably conversely made it harder for the Board to sack him.

I agree, may delay the inevitable to seasons end. This threat thing has made it little complex. Just imagine the vultures if a coach gets sacked days after receiving death threats from a fan.

5 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Completely agree.

IMV it reflects very poorly on our supporters how some talk.

Some post as though premierships should be automatic and can be accidental or flukes. God given things. It's ridiculous, naive and/or arrogant in a multi billion dollar industry to think this way.

Yesterday's finish was heinous and the last straw for me with Goody, but I saw people compare it to 186, we lost by a kick after the siren FFS.

I was at 186 and I was there yesterday. Completely different situations. We are better than two straight bottom 4 finishes, but we are not 186 level or even 148 level insipid. 148 was another I had the pleasure of seeing.

There is no doubt, our fall from the top has been incredible. However, this does not undo the incredible 3 years we had at the top as pace setters, and no amount of potting in that thread will erase what Goody gave me and many other Melbourne supporters. Something of dreams and something I thought I'd never witness. We may not have been there to see it in person, but we won a [censored] flag.

Goody deserves respect for his tenure as one of our most successful coaches and certainly our most successful coach of the last 50 years. It's a huge achievement, and potting him repeatedly page after page doesn't reflect well on anyone.

I hope we can manufacture a dignified exit at the end of 2025, he deserves it. But with this administration, I'm not sure what we can realistically expect.

What do you think is more embarrassing?

Losing down at Mordor with a nothing list? Or is it a 46 point capitulation with a team full of premiership players?

Simple question, simple answer.

Probably both equally embarrassing but at least the 186 has the caveat that the club was a basket case and full young inexperienced players. Yesterday? No excuses!

4 hours ago, Coobs said:

Thank you for your support.

Thoughts?

Just for clarity; is that you or Brad Green asking for our thoughts on the letter?

Edited 8 hours ago8 hr by Ethan Tremblay

4 hours ago, Coobs said:

Dear Members,

..... your Board and I are committed to doing everything required to have our AFL program performing at the level we all expect.

Really?

What about holding those who run our football department to account? What about ensuring our coaches do something about the same problems we have had for 4 years in some cases such as kicking for goal? What about ensuring our players commit to basic football actions like running to position for a 666 and a centre bounce?

What about making sure our leaders like Gawn Petracca Viney and oliver learn how to kick a f*ng football?

There are a hundred things the fan base is irate about that we see week in week out like selection integrity, or playing Petty in the fwd line? Who is being held to account for these decisions?

No one is being held to account as far as I can tell.

So Brad, thanks for the letter. Props for speaking to members at a difficult time but its total crapola. We are losing members at a faster rate than any other club according to my inside informant. If change is not seen to be happening we won't have a club.