2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Gawn should know better, I agree.

But he's been coached this way.

When the going gets tough, Goodwin has always wanted us to take territory. It's been ingrained in us since at least 2020.

So when under pressure, Gawn does what's been coached into him to the point of instinct - he belts it/hacks it/moves it forward.

It's not the right play. He should know better. But his coaches should be helping him, and the rest of the side, realise this.

He's done it before...and against this same mob...and cost a last minute loss as well.

3 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Mate your a DH , that lat quarter was embarrassing

You’re comments were when we were flying but the response and the timing highlights you’re negative

Stick to what you know, underage football. By the way, I still stand by my original comments and they turned/turning out correct so keep being negative yourself.

4 hours ago, Demonland said:

This season cannot end soon enough. Disgraceful.

Imagine being the person that owns this site?!

If I was St.Kilda I'd forget about TDK and give all that money to Wanganeen-Milera

53 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

After 2011, the number 186 took on it's own meaning and meant visceral pain to Melbourne supporters.

Now in 2025, 46 has become a new number that will haunt this club for years.

I've never been more embarrassed to be a Melbourne supporter. I was just lost in a daze when the final siren sounded. I just couldn't believe what happened. I was incredibly disappointed in the outcome of a draw but I couldn't even fathom a loss. How could we lose in 8 seconds?

186 led to a sacking and there just has to be consequences for that loss.

I'm a Trident member and I can't bring myself to not support the club, but by God I would donate more than I can afford for the club to sack Goodwin.

It feels similar in that emotions are fever pitched after abnormal results like this and panic buttons get pushed. I call it abnormal because that's exactly what it is.

I'm just disgusted right now. I'm also Trident and they cost a lot of money, money that this club doesn't deserve right now yet we won't stop doing it.

The lead has been completely buried on why we even gave up that 6-6-6 free to begin with. I cant think of another game that was handed to the opposition so easily. Hang your heads

Edited July 27Jul 27 by layzie

48 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

Exactly right! I was thinking to myself earlier, that this would never have happened with ANB or Gus in the team. The loss of Gus has been the biggest blow to this team.

Plus May and Lever (though not the Lever of this year ...).

That's a lot of on-field leadership lost.

25 minutes ago, SadDee said:

Yep.

I’ve got zero [censored] clue why we even have him let alone play him, he’s as weak as a packet of ramen noodles.

Give Jefferson or any of the upcoming forwards MUCH NEEDED game time for them to gain experience in gameplay, and match fitness and better opponents.

To play Petty forward again is the definition of insanity. It’s proven not to work on countless occasions after working only once against Richmond.

We should've traded that bag of noodles for the couple of $100 peking duck restaurant vouchers we were offered

Since the Sydney win, when we clawed our way back to 5-6, we're 1-7.

Scarily, only three of those 8 games have been against top 8 sides (Collingwood, GC and Adelaide). And they would all be in our four best performances in that 8 week period.

The other 5 games were the North win, and then losses to St Kilda twice, Port Adelaide and Carlton.

Our fixture this year gave us 10 games against the other 7 members of the bottom 8. We are currently 3-6 in those games, with West Coast to come again next week. Even assuming we beat West Coast, we'll finish 4-6 against the bottom 8.

Appalling.

Real eyes realise real lies.

The final play/meltdown has justifiably come under the microscope, but in reality how much better would have we all felt if we hung on for a draw after a blowing all 46 points of our unassailable lead?

When NWM kicked the goal to level the score with 9 seconds left, it genuinely felt like a loss, and a draw might have wallpapered over some major cracks.

1 minute ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

The final play/meltdown has justifiably come under the microscope, but in reality how much better would have we all felt if we hung on for a draw after a blowing all 46 points of our unassailable lead?

When NWM kicked the goal to level the score with 9 seconds left, it genuinely felt like a loss, and a draw might have wallpapered over some major cracks.

I'd agree, if I felt like this would spark a response from Goodwin, the FD or the senior players.

I'm just not at all confident it will.

8 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

. Even assuming we beat West Coast, we'll finish 4-6 against the bottom 8.

I’m amazed the win/loss ratio is that high.

1 hour ago, At the break of Gawn said:

After 2011, the number 186 took on it's own meaning and meant visceral pain to Melbourne supporters.

Now in 2025, 46 has become a new number that will haunt this club for years.

I've never been more embarrassed to be a Melbourne supporter. I was just lost in a daze when the final siren sounded. I just couldn't believe what happened. I was incredibly disappointed in the outcome of a dra but I couldn't even fathom a loss. How could we lose in 8 seconds?

186 led to a sacking and there just has to be consequences for that loss.

I'm a Trident member and I can't bring myself to not support the club, but by God I would donate more than I can afford for the club to sack Goodwin.

Surely the club will know it's going to lose more money in memberships and sponsorships than the $1m that will be paid to Goody and roughly another $1m to assistants, Richo etc.

11 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

We should've traded that bag of noodles for the couple of $100 peking duck restaurant vouchers we were offered

Been saying that since before they rejected offers, never saw much in him. Quite soft across the field.

56 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Presumably, as you almost always do, you think that our loss today is down in part to our inexperience, and/or our younger players fading?

A loss like today's is multi-factorial, and not down to any single player or two.

I do believe though that across the field you need a good, balanced list, and one capable of executing what they need to. Without that you're on a hiding to nothing - as we saw today.

Just now, Bring-Back-Powell said:

The final play/meltdown has justifiably come under the microscope, but in reality how much better would have we all felt if we hung on for a draw after a blowing all 46 points of our unassailable lead?

When NWM kicked the goal to level the score with 9 seconds left, it genuinely felt like a loss, and a draw might have wallpapered over some major cracks.

100% correct

That 6-6-6 infringement and the lack of manning up on NWM in the 45 seconds it took Marshall to be allowed to play that free, was diabolical.

What was worse was blowing up a 46 point lead to a bottom side that kicked 7 goals for the entire game and went on to kick NINE straight in a single quarter to our ZERO goals.

That is an absolute joke, and it never ever should have happened. The only acceptable way this happens is if we start the 4th quarter with no bench due to injuries and get overrun. And even then I would expect to hold on to such a large lead.

In no universe is that last quarter even mildly acceptable. There is no excuse, no explanation and no reason to believe that this turnaround was not a total failure of execution, application and coaching. Every player and coach involved in today’s game, Windsor aside as he was subbed off, has to take a giant chunk of responsibility for what happened in that fourth quarter. Most especially our leaders and our senior coach who sits on the bench.

We never ever should have got to a stage where scores were leveled with 8 seconds to go. What happened at the end was just the cherry on top of the [censored] cake, but it’s one poor moment amongst dozens of poor moments to created this debacle.

We have lost our ability to win.

1 minute ago, SadDee said:

Been saying that since before they rejected offers, never saw much in him. Quite soft across the field.

Well at the time of said offers, I thought we needed the pick/s to package it for Harley Reid. Although it would've been denied, and that's probably why we did not do it at the time, we still could've added some good draft talent!

Edited July 27Jul 27 by John Demonic

56 minutes ago, frankie_d said:

Collingwood don't lose that game

West Coast wouldn't have lost that game if they were up by 8 goals at three quarter.

That's not a throwaway line. There's something uniquely wrong with this team at this moment.

20 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

We should've traded that bag of noodles for the couple of $100 peking duck restaurant vouchers we were offered

he will now leave for nothing and turn into an AA level player there cause they are a proper team unlike us😞😞

anyways time for the f1 now, i’m sure i’ll be disappointed again a sunday ritual at this point

2 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

he will now leave for nothing and turn into an AA level player there cause they are a proper team unlike us😞😞

anyways time for the f1 now, i’m sure i’ll be disappointed again a sunday ritual at this point

Thank god we still have our F1, the future first rounder and the sport

I'm sick of the silence on Oliver cost us the game again. He was great from 2021 to 2023 but the last 2 years he has been a disgrace. They desperately need to make a statement with him and drop him.

Without doubt, we proved ourselves a superior side for three quarters. No need to analyse or review those three!

We failed dismally in the final quarter. Captain obvious, I know!

My point is… that final 30 minutes should be examined with clinical precision… all camera angles, every player, the coach’s role, rotation management, communication between the bench and team, including use of signage to formulate a PLAN to ensure it never happens again. The whole week needs to be devoted to this activity!

4 hours ago, lorn said:

Wanganeen-Milera what a star

He did the same last time and SG didn't bother to send someone to him.

Not only is Simon a dear in the headlights 'in-game' he does not appear to have much, if any, capacity to learn from past mistakes.

We have looked like a bunch of amatures since the start of 2024.

Any club worth their salt and half a brain would not have extended him for two more seasons after the 2023 / 2024 straight sets exits.

One year tops.

We are not a very smart club and don't appear to be capable of learning from similar re signing mistakes in the past.

Cultural issues still plague us in a big way. Possibly amongst some in the playing group also.

Edited July 27Jul 27 by Demon Dynasty

"Senior on-field leadership has never been more paramount"

Ross Lyon post-match

(referring to AFL restrictions on sending messages out to players).

1 hour ago, Red But Mostly Blue said:

Classic Dees

And that’s one of the things right there. The difference between our best and worst is too far. Probably the most jarring in the league. And the fact that it happens so often, and sometimes in the same game is disheartening. One of the reasons we can’t get big crowds to games. We are not a trustworthy team. You just don’t know who you’re going to see if you head to a game, and that’s inexcusable.

Which is what frustrates the most because this regime told the supporters that that would not happen. We were told that Melbourne supporters would be able to have trust in the team and players. We were told that Melbourne supporters would be able to see a defined brand of footy that the team played. We were told they were building towards a culture of excellence/consistent high performance. No you won't win flags every year but yes you will be in the thick of it at the pointy end to give yourself a chance more often than not.

We had one great year, two pretty good years with poor finishes and now back to where we were. A brief three year period, not the 10-20 years of sustained performance (with slight blips) we were sold.

There must be accountability for this, we were setup for success by Jackson and Roos and have completely butchered it due to typical Melbourne hubris.

Maybe it comes from our supporter base historically coming from the top end of town and having a "born to rule" mentality that seeps through the club so they think they have a birthright to success without having to do what needs to be done to make it happen.