umpiring is poor for sure

the aspect which has to be addressed is umpires down the field paying frees and effectively overruling umps closer to the play

that free against trac last night was an obvious mistake paid by an umpire that was 40 meters away

surely decisions by umps closer to the play should take precedence over down field umps

Same old story last night.

These fools are ruining it for me. From mad 50 m penalties to not fifteen. It's just such a poor standard.

10 hours ago, Bigred said:

But hey, we should be good enough that the umpiring doesnt matter. We weren’t. We are miles off 2021. And thats not down to the umpires !

I dunno final round 2021 we had a deliberate and 50m penalty go our way. We win the minor premiership and go onto win the premiership.

If that wasn't paid would we have gone on to win the premiership? Well never know thankfully.

Decisions at crucial times influence matches and for whatever reason they seem to go against us more often than not by a multiple of about 10

17 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

I dunno final round 2021 we had a deliberate and 50m penalty go our way. We win the minor premiership and go onto win the premiership.

If that wasn't paid would we have gone on to win the premiership? Well never know thankfully.

Decisions at crucial times influence matches and for whatever reason they seem to go against us more often than not by a multiple of about 10

Didn’t we have a deliberate paid against us in the last minute. I think it was Brayshaw which was a howler that set in motion that last play.

13 minutes ago, SPC said:

Didn’t we have a deliberate paid against us in the last minute. I think it was Brayshaw which was a howler that set in motion that last play.

Yep.

Nobody is complaining about legitimate frees that are paid. It's the BS ones mainly paid by umps 60 metres away and the clear ones not paid. Thats where the manipulation of results comes in.

The only good thing about the Clarry holding the ball howler was the passion and vitriol of the Melbourne supporters that followed. The MCC members close to the incident, myself included, went ballistic. The sad thing about it and the dubious Curnow free that followed was that these decisions killed the contest. To that point, either team could have won, and the Dees certainly had the momentum. But no, again the game is decided by the [censored] in yellow and not by the players. Interestingly, regarding the extraordinary run of free kicks to Carlton in the last quarter, most of them were there (what was Jake Bowey thinking???), but the last two decisions really decided the game in the end.

I struggle to call the Oliver non-free a mistake.

It was unobscured in open play, yet none of the four could see it?

They chose not to pay it.

1 minute ago, GM11 said:

I struggle to call the Oliver non-free a mistake.

It was unobscured in open play, yet none of the four could see it?

They chose not to pay it.

Exactly. The non paying of frees is where the cheating happens.

7 minutes ago, GM11 said:

I struggle to call the Oliver non-free a mistake.

It was unobscured in open play, yet none of the four could see it?

They chose not to pay it.

2 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Exactly. The non paying of frees is where the cheating happens.

So tiresome.

There is no conspiracy. Just ineptitude.

Having said that, whilst I disagree with it, the umpire presumably will have said Durdin had no prior.

48 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

So tiresome.

There is no conspiracy. Just ineptitude.

Having said that, whilst I disagree with it, the umpire presumably will have said Durdin had no prior.

There is no conspiracy by there is consistency we always get screwed at crucial times in matches. Happened twice now against Carlton. Petraccas goal and Clarrys tackle both not paid both were there. Both cost us the game

Personally, whilst I get mad a lot of decisions (because the umpire is blatantly wrong), it’s so easy for us sitting on our couch to call it out, we have the courtesy of 10 replays and 10 angles.

Until the AFL removes umpires and makes it some sort of AI where there are no mistakes, then there will always be decisions that are wrong and that’s the beauty of the game.

They go both ways. (Most of the time)

There’s no game in AFL history where a umpiring decision decides a game in full, the game could and should have been won by the players, ie: capitalizing on set shots, no turn overs, etc.

For us to say umpires should be perfect, we should say that to the players too then.

They do the best job they can, and even though frustrating sometimes, that’s the game.

Given how pedantic the AFL / umpires can be I am amazed how often a player takes a mark and a player who is not the closest will role in and stand the mark much closer than they should be.

Also LJ moved 5cm’s forward today and got called play on, yet just about every player around the ground from a mark or free kick moves half a meter of the line and they don’t call play on. Meanwhile the player on the mark has to stand.

8 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

So tiresome.

There is no conspiracy. Just ineptitude.

Having said that, whilst I disagree with it, the umpire presumably will have said Durdin had no prior.

It doesn't have to be a conspiracy to be openly cheating. Where the conspiracy is planted, is before the start of the season. Where idle talk on players fairness is discussed along with perhaps favourite players and Clubs, or even interpretation of new/old /hard rules.

I know I know, what else are they going to dis cuss....how many frees they give against teams they don't like or players they do. That could not have anything to do with it, could it.

Last night was the classic case of the scenario where two things can both be right.

We were woeful for much of the night.

And the umpiring was appalling and had a material impact on the game.