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CASEY: Rd 08 vs Southport

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25 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Stats please K.C?

Don’t worry about stats. Some players are stats loading. Useless handballs. Put others under pressure. Ineffective kicks. Sideways kicks. I’d rather this be a development opportunity for players to take on the corridor. Instead they go slow and safe and boring. Southport flood back then got us on rebound. Sounds familiar ?

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    It’s very disappointing

    Kolt was the biggest disappointment. I thought he’d play through the midfield, get 20+ possessions, kick 3 goals and get that swagger going. Instead, well it was disappointing is best way to sum up.

    Kynan Brown. A yes from me !! Hope he gets promoted soon.

    Howes is too good for VFL. I’d like to see him across half forward and try to nail goals

    Others ? Plenty of maybes. Sestan ok. Adams ok Woey jnr ok Verrall yeah probably ok. But they didn’t give me any confidence of being able to go higher.

    Jeffo Ummmmm let’s persist but it’s looking not good imv

    JVR … 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞he gets some coaching and support

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    2 hours ago, Gibberish said:

    1.4 in the second quarter and 0.8 in the third for a grand total of 1.12 for a half. Maybe someone can convince Fev that we're the next basket case that need him for a game. I think he'd perform better than most in our forward line.

    Goal kicking accuracy is contagious it seems. Pathetic.

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    Will Ferrell Crying GIF

    What they’re saying at Berwick-Cranbourne Rd today.

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    1 hour ago, Cranky Franky said:

    15 AFL listed players & we dish that up !!!

    The coaching panel & the Football Dpt need a total overhaul.

    Jeez CF we kicked 1.12 and you want to sack the coaches, if I was a player and I dished that rubbish up I would be expecting to be playing at Casey for the foreseeable future. They should have been a mile in front instead they squandered every opportunity.

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    Casey players doing their very best to emulate their senior counterparts in most aspects of the game. So frustrating! So many things need to change!

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    1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    It’s very disappointing

    Kolt was the biggest disappointment. I thought he’d play through the midfield, get 20+ possessions, kick 3 goals and get that swagger going. Instead, well it was disappointing is best way to sum up.

    Kynan Brown. A yes from me !! Hope he gets promoted soon.

    Howes is too good for VFL. I’d like to see him across half forward and try to nail goals

    Others ? Plenty of maybes. Sestan ok. Adams ok Woey jnr ok Verrall yeah probably ok. But they didn’t give me any confidence of being able to go higher.

    Jeffo Ummmmm let’s persist but it’s looking not good imv

    JVR … 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞he gets some coaching and support

    I suspect Kolt is severely underdone with a limited pre season. Yes probably a regression but give the coaches g

    Should give him a month training block get him running in top of the ground play a month in the 2s to build form then look at him for the 1s only if he demands it.

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    4 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

    I suspect Kolt is severely underdone with a limited pre season. Yes probably a regression but give the coaches g

    Should give him a month training block get him running in top of the ground play a month in the 2s to build form then look at him for the 1s only if he demands it.

    Just want the Kolt to be that aggressive goalkicking half forward with a midfield burst. Ah we can dream

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    19 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

    Should give him a month training block get him running in top of the ground

    Doesn't quite work like that, and you'd have to presume that he's hitting his targets in terms of overall cardio fitness and running ability.

    But yes, it's a long way back from a long period on the sidelines. You only have to look at the difference between this year's Bowey vs last year's where he missed a couple of months with the shoulder.

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    3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

    We have two former players who are heavily involved in our club, who used to be elite goal kickers. One is our president and the other is Robbo.

    Surely we can’t do worse than to have one or both of them spend an hour a week working with our forwards on goal kicking.

    i’ve said this before, surely they aren’t busy enough to spent one hour at least a week with the talls

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    Well I was there today, and you would have to say ideal conditions. A bit of a breeze blowing from the south but not enough to move the ball around so our inaccuracy was too similar to the ones last week but if anything WORSE!

    I'll start with the positives

    Kynan Brown was excellent today and I would be seriously looking to play him next week and give him a block of games

    Woey was also good gets his share of possesions but sometimes doesn't use it well enough

    Sestan did some very good things running of half back and also shouldn't be far away from a call up

    Lever grew in confidence as the game progressed and I would expect him to be back next week

    Howes is too good for this competition, but I'm not sure he is AFL Ready at this stage

    Probably the standout for me was Riley Bonnar, seemed to everywhere and knows how to move seamlessly into and out of play

    Jeffo an almost game, should have kicked at least 3 and also ALMOST took some tough pack marks, he was aggressive and gained a few frees because of it, needs confidence but I thought him OK Today

    Ricky Mentha Junior displayed some class on occasions but was guilty of trying to do a Kozzy.

    NEGATIVES

    The Kolt I dont think had a possesion to half time and did little to enthuse. As others have so rightly said he still lacks match conditioning but again Goody Rushed him back when not ready

    JVR hnmmm I would play him at CHB and see what he can do there!

    Henderson, a wasted pick too slow

    Billings, game has passed him by

    Verral tried hard and kicked a ripper of a goal but still NQT

    Campbell, a reasonably good ruckman but little else,

    Luker Kentfield hnmm little to impress.

    Thats about it!

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    1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Kolt was the biggest disappointment. I thought he’d play through the midfield, get 20+ possessions, kick 3 goals and get that swagger going. Instead, well it was disappointing is best way to sum up.

    Something's not right. When you look at his VFL performances from last year he was regularly getting 20+ possessions, laying tackles, etc. though he has never been one to hit the scoreboard often.

    Could be a wasted year unfortunately, he really needed a full pre-season.

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    2 minutes ago, bing181 said:

    Something's not right. When you look at his VFL performances from last year he was regularly getting 20+ possessions, laying tackles, etc. though he has never been one to hit the scoreboard often.

    Could be a wasted year unfortunately, he really needed a full pre-season.

    Maaate somethings not right with the whole club! Some serious decisions need to be made!

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    2 minutes ago, bing181 said:

    Something's not right. When you look at his VFL performances from last year he was regularly getting 20+ possessions, laying tackles, etc. though he has never been one to hit the scoreboard often.

    Could be a wasted year unfortunately, he really needed a full pre-season.

    Long lay off. Not fit enough…

    Players that are injured over pre season should not be rushed.. it clearly doesn’t work. Instead make them do the full program and if it means 2-3 months of the season so be it.

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    Just now, GS_1905 said:

    Long lay off. Not fit enough…

    Players that are injured over pre season should not be rushed.. it clearly doesn’t work. Instead make them do the full program and if it means 2-3 months of the season so be it.

    Yeah but typical Goody.... brings players back UNDERDONE! All down to him!

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    1 hour ago, DeeZone said:

    Jeez CF we kicked 1.12 and you want to sack the coaches, if I was a player and I dished that rubbish up I would be expecting to be playing at Casey for the foreseeable future. They should have been a mile in front instead they squandered every opportunity.

    Casey has very similar structural problems to the firsts side.

    Despite having 15 listed AFL players they have been humbled at home by a stand alone side.

    If you don't see the systemic coaching & structural problems I can't help you.

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    Tholstrup isn't nearly as good a player as he thinks he is. Until he realises this, and starts putting the work in, he's going nowhere.

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    2 hours ago, DubDee said:

    "No selection integrity"

    "All these Casey players never get a go from Goody"

    Give me a spell

    I don’t think you understand the concept.

    Selection integrity refers to selecting players who are in form and dropping them when they are not. By not selecting players when they deserve a chance to play (Laurie & Sestan for example) you are inhibiting their chances of success. Conversely, by selecting players who are out of form (JVR, Kolt & Oliver) and continuing to play them in the seniors, you see a decline in output and confidence.

    It also sends mixed message to fringe players. What do they need to do, to be selected?

    Now we have a situation where 60-70% if the list is playing below their normal standard and both teams are devoid of confidence.

    Lastly, on the list management, if Goody doesn’t like many of our players and won’t select them, why are they still on the list? Goody has a lot to answer for, with the current predicament we face.

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    1 minute ago, JJJ said:

    I don’t think you understand the concept.

    Selection integrity refers to selecting players who are in form and dropping them when they are not. By not selecting players when they deserve a chance to play (Laurie & Sestan for example) you are inhibiting their chances of success. Conversely, by selecting players who are out of form (JVR, Kolt & Oliver) and continuing to play them in the seniors, you see a decline in output and confidence.

    It also sends mixed message to fringe players. What do they need to do, to be selected?

    Now we have a situation where 60-70% if the list is playing below their normal standard and both teams are devoid of confidence.

    Lastly, on the list management, if Goody doesn’t like many of our players and won’t select them, why are they still on the list? Goody has a lot to answer for, with the current predicament we face.

    BUMP THIS 100% CORRECT!

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    Kolt's got some time, but it's not looking good IMO.

    JT definitely nailed both picks last year though.

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    15 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

    Long lay off. Not fit enough…

    Players that are injured over pre season should not be rushed.. it clearly doesn’t work. Instead make them do the full program and if it means 2-3 months of the season so be it.

    I doubt he's not "fit" enough. Even with a foot injury you can keep loads up and continue to build or maintain cardio fitness.

    He's just missed a lot of footy and match practice - no way through that now except to get games into him.

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    8 minutes ago, JJJ said:

    I don’t think you understand the concept.

    Selection integrity refers to selecting players who are in form and dropping them when they are not. By not selecting players when they deserve a chance to play (Laurie & Sestan for example) you are inhibiting their chances of success. Conversely, by selecting players who are out of form (JVR, Kolt & Oliver) and continuing to play them in the seniors, you see a decline in output and confidence.

    It also sends mixed message to fringe players. What do they need to do, to be selected?

    Now we have a situation where 60-70% if the list is playing below their normal standard and both teams are devoid of confidence.

    Lastly, on the list management, if Goody doesn’t like many of our players and won’t select them, why are they still on the list? Goody has a lot to answer for, with the current predicament we face.

    Every coach makes a call on who gives us the best chance to win us the game.

    eg out of form Clarry will provide more than in form Laurie. Or out of form JVR will give more than in form Fullarton. you might not agree but the calls are made

    All of these calls over 9 years resulted in success finals and a flag and an extremely united and tight group.

    but sure mistakes have been made

    Today showed there are very few knocking down the door

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    Classic DL writing off a 19yo after 12 games after showing good promise last year

    He is learning what is required. Sooked it up today and will learn from it

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    3 hours ago, DubDee said:

    Where does Sestan generally play at Casey and where could he play at AFL level?

    Any info appreciated

    Yes I’m interested to know this as well.

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