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9 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

Langford is very classy but his lack of pace means he needs to get incredibly strong to be a good AFL player. He needs to lock himself in the weight room over summer.

Disagree, he has all the moves, poise and class to be an excellent mid. Pace isn’t an issue in that his reaction time is fast.

No problem with Langford's pace. If he had pace, he'd have gone pick 1, but his ball use and decision making makes up for the lack of pace.

We do want pace and power around him though. Lindsay (pace), Windsor (pace) and Kolt (power).

 
On 05/04/2025 at 18:23, Adam The God said:

No problem with Langford's pace. If he had pace, he'd have gone pick 1, but his ball use and decision making makes up for the lack of pace.

We do want pace and power around him though. Lindsay (pace), Windsor (pace) and Kolt (power).

If there was no problem with Langford's pace, you would not need pace and power around him.

He needs to become a brute to be a good AFL player (which I think he will). The game is moving against slow, contested beasts towards skill and speed.


3 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

If there was no problem with Langford's pace, you would not need pace and power around him.

He needs to become a brute to be a good AFL player (which I think he will). The game is moving against slow, contested beasts towards skill and speed.

A Very skilful player with quick reflexes so no problem when in traffic. He might struggle for pace when out in the open or when chasing an opponent.

My current concern however is a doubt over his confidence and self belief. Given time, this should not be an enduring problem, we hope.

However a situation arose on the Sunday footy show which doesn’t appear to be mentioned here (perhaps no one watches the show).

On the handball segment Harvey’s effort on the right hand was diabolical (the worst I can recalling seeing).

It was jarring to watch and the panel members seemed to be in shock.

No doubt a humiliating situation for the young bloke to find himself in.

I suspect he knew of the likely outcome as he was reluctant to use that hand, saying he wasn’t aware he needed to use the opposite hand.

Regardless, he now has to deal with the embarrassment and possible ridicule from opposition supporters and maybe even players.

Which leads me to question why did the club sanction his appearance on the show. Surely someone would have known his “capabilities” of handballing with his right hand.

6 minutes ago, Abyssal said:

A Very skilful player with quick reflexes so no problem when in traffic. He might struggle for pace when out in the open or when chasing an opponent.

My current concern however is a doubt over his confidence and self belief. Given time, this should not be an enduring problem, we hope.

However a situation arose on the Sunday footy show which doesn’t appear to be mentioned here (perhaps no one watches the show).

On the handball segment Harvey’s effort on the right hand was diabolical (the worst I can recalling seeing).

It was jarring to watch and the panel members seemed to be in shock.

No doubt a humiliating situation for the young bloke to find himself in.

I suspect he knew of the likely outcome as he was reluctant to use that hand, saying he wasn’t aware he needed to use the opposite hand.

Regardless, he now has to deal with the embarrassment and possible ridicule from opposition supporters and maybe even players.

Which leads me to question why did the club sanction his appearance on the show. Surely someone would have known his “capabilities” of handballing with his right hand.

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Harvey Langford's got some work to do on using his right hand!

Young kid has something to work on, i'm sure he'll improve with his other hand.

 

Yes I was watching it live and was perplexed as to how someone at the elite level could be so one sided. It was as if he had a hand injury on his right. He seemed reluctant to hit through the ball with his hand, very little power on that side.

5 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

If there was no problem with Langford's pace, you would not need pace and power around him.

He needs to become a brute to be a good AFL player (which I think he will). The game is moving against slow, contested beasts towards skill and speed.

No, you need balance in your midfield. The guys that can win it in the contest (Langford) and the guys who burst from the contest (Windsor).


10 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

No, you need balance in your midfield. The guys that can win it in the contest (Langford) and the guys who burst from the contest (Windsor).

Obviously this makes sense, but you would still prefer to have inside players with speed like Dangerfield and Judd who can win it inside and break away.

My initial post said he needs to become he needs to get incredibly strong to be a good AFL player (because he is going to need to overpower his opponents to win contested possessions). I don't think this is a controversial statement, because that's how most of the slow inside mids make it at AFL level.

53 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Obviously this makes sense, but you would still prefer to have inside players with speed like Dangerfield and Judd who can win it inside and break away.

My initial post said he needs to become he needs to get incredibly strong to be a good AFL player (because he is going to need to overpower his opponents to win contested possessions). I don't think this is a controversial statement, because that's how most of the slow inside mids make it at AFL level.

Unlike Dangerfield, Langford is a beautiful kick. Pros and cons.

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