Demonlanders, this may well be the first topic I've created (possibly second), but I'm curious as to whether people think we should now be focusing primarily on a rebuild? And making selection calls in line with it.

I certainly do and I'm fearful that if we don't make hard decisions now, we'll be stuck in the doldrums for a very long time.

Thoughts?

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Great way to start a rebuild when Essendon hold our 1st round pick.

Take what we can get in terms of trades etc.

We need skill and speed injected into this line up.

Edited March 29, 20251 yr by YesitwasaWin4theAges

Parallels with Collingwood 2021 when they finished bottom 4 & Buckley left

Funnily enough they didn't have a 1st round pick that year either

5 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

Demonlanders, this may well be the first topic I've created (possibly second), but I'm curious as to whether people think we should now be focusing primarily on a rebuild? And making selection calls in line with it.

I certainly do and I'm fearful that if we don't make hard decisions now, we'll be stuck in the doldrums for a very long time.

Thoughts?

For sure.

If it was my decision bring a young coach with new and bold ideas.

Play the kids, start phasing out many of our senior players that are either too old or don't want to be here

Just now, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Great way to start a rebuild when Essendon hold our 1st round pick.

Agreed, re Bombers pick but some players will want to go and we may have to make some tough decisions based on the squad not being good enough.

Seems like its already started

1 minute ago, Return to Glory said:

Agreed, re Bombers pick but some players will want to go and we may have to make some tough decisions based on the squad not being good enough.

If we get good picks offered to us, we have to take them now.

Not naming names but we can't miss the boat.

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Just now, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

If we get good picks offered to us, we have to take them now.

Yep, that's my thoughts also.

5 minutes ago, adonski said:

Parallels with Collingwood 2021 when they finished bottom 4 & Buckley left

Funnily enough they didn't have a 1st round pick that year either

They did have Naicos tho

Can’t see Kalani White being a generational player like he is

Is the draft already compromised next year?

1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

Can’t see Kalani White being a generational player like he is

doesnt matter he wont want anything to do with us after today

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We have some good young players. Langford and Lindsay. Kossie (if we can keep him), mcvee, Windsor.

We have a top class recruiter. Time to trade out 1-2 top liners to bring in the picks. Trac the obvious option. He doesn’t want to be here anyways.

Can’t wait until tassy come in. Worse time to bottom out. Has to be this trade period.

And bring in a new voice to coach them. I’m very appreciative of goody but the MFC comes first.

7 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

For sure.

If it was my decision bring a young coach with new and bold ideas.

Play the kids, start phasing out many of our senior players that are either too old or don't want to be here

Should have started 2 years ago

Instead we over paid fading stars on ridiculous long contracts.

Just now, BDA said:

We have some good young players. Langford and Lindsay. Kossie (if we can keep him), mcvee, Windsor.

We have a top class recruiter. Time to trade out 1-2 top liners to bring in the picks. Trac the obvious option. He doesn’t want to be here anyways.

Can’t wait until tassy come in. Worse time to bottom out. Has to be this trade period.

And bring in a new voice to coach them. I’m very appreciative of goody but the MFC comes first.

BDA, I started this topic with the Tassie team at the forefront of my mind.

Goodwin absolutely has to go.

Realistically it should have started at the end of the 2024 season.

Maybe Gary Pert was right.

It is a 50/50 no from me. Would never want to lose any of Langford, Lindsay, Tholstrup, Kozzie, Jeffo, McVee, or Windsor and we would have to for a rebuild.

But it is not a clear cut no. Gawn and May are coming to the end with no clear replacement. Oliver, Petracca and Viney have no wind in their sails and their general play is error-riddled. We do have a heap of tradeable players whose form is appalling (Rivers, Salem, Turner etc...)

6 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Is the draft already compromised next year?

2026 i think.

We ar ein the process of an ongoing rebuild with the recent trading for high draft picks. We have a good core of young players.

What we need to a coach that can get the skills back up to play the game style we need. Look at the skills of the hawks, same when Clarkson Tok over, they spend time developing this skills once draft. Before I switched off today (2nd week in a row which is rare) so many fundamental basic skills errors cost us the ability to move the ball quickly without pressure and/or lead to a turnover and a goal against.

Whatever changes Trac demanded to improve standards is not evident.

1 minute ago, Maldonboy38 said:

It is a 50/50 no from me. Would never want to lose any of Langford, Lindsay, Tholstrup, Kozzie, Jeffo, McVee, or Windsor and we would have to for a rebuild.

But it is not a clear cut no. Gawn and May are coming to the end with no clear replacement. Oliver, Petracca and Viney have no wind in their sails and their general play is error-riddled. We do have a heap of tradeable players whose form is appalling (Rivers, Salem, Turner etc...)

Why do we have to lose our young guns?

Much rather lose Petraca, Oliver, Salem, Fritsch.

Fritsch stays. His form is horrible but he’s the only reliable goal kicker we have

1 minute ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Why do we have to lose our young guns?

Much rather lose Petraca, Oliver, Salem, Fritsch.

Because that is who opposition teams will go for. Petracca will get currency but neither of Viney or Oliver will.

Kozzie, Langford and McVee in particular will be heavy targets.

Probably need to turn Trac + Kozz into 4 first round picks