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18 minutes ago, Sydee said:

What does that mean? 

Just observations. Nothing to worry about.

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1 hour ago, djr said:

Yes, they were. That said, Tracc's an interesting one.

At times I thought he (CP5) didn't look happy, then he'd crack a smile.  I wasn't there from the start. 

PS. Was Mentha there? He may have been the different body shape attributed to Kozzie.

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1 hour ago, ManDee said:

At times I thought he (CP5) didn't look happy, then he'd crack a smile.  I wasn't there from the start. 

PS. Was Mentha there? He may have been the different body shape attributed to Kozzie.

Yes, Mentha was there with no number on his back. Did you manage to get down to training? If so, what were your thoughts on some of the training drills?

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2 hours ago, djr said:

Yes, Mentha was there with no number on his back. Did you manage to get down to training? If so, what were your thoughts on some of the training drills?

I arrived late, only saw a few minutes of the drills, they looked sharp.

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5 minutes ago, ManDee said:

I arrived late, only saw a few minutes of the drills, they looked sharp.

That is my thoughts about them as well.

The 1 to 4 yrs were setting high standards. The application of basics had been emphasised.

Makes it easier for the oldies to slot into, and improve us. 

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6 hours ago, ManDee said:

At times I thought he (CP5) didn't look happy, then he'd crack a smile.  I wasn't there from the start. 

PS. Was Mentha there? He may have been the different body shape attributed to Kozzie.

There's something off with Trac at the moment. I watched him closely this morning, he's not acting his usual self out on the track. It's like he's trying to be super professional but trying not to enjoy himself or buy in, that's the vibe I'm getting. Also have a look at his post on IG from last pre season compared to now. He refuses to acknowledge the club or any team mates in any social media. 

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6 minutes ago, Matt Demon said:

There's something off with Trac at the moment. I watched him closely this morning, he's not acting his usual self out on the track. It's like he's trying to be super professional but trying not to enjoy himself or buy in, that's the vibe I'm getting. Also have a look at his post on IG from last pre season compared to now. He refuses to acknowledge the club or any team mates in any social media. 

He was probably shattered we weren't visiting a school in Toorak

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40 minutes ago, Matt Demon said:

There's something off with Trac at the moment. I watched him closely this morning, he's not acting his usual self out on the track. It's like he's trying to be super professional but trying not to enjoy himself or buy in, that's the vibe I'm getting. Also have a look at his post on IG from last pre season compared to now. He refuses to acknowledge the club or any team mates in any social media. 

Just went to his insta to check. 

Since the Kings birthday incident the only Melbourne related post is the mater-of-fact statement declaring his commitment. 

Literally the only other posts since then are a couple pre injury and couple from the grand final. 

His latest posts are advertisements, him being professional on a footbal field distinctly sans ANY demons branded gear. 

He certainly, at least from a branding perspective, is distancing himself from Melbourne very concciously. 

This is a watch this space scenario. 

Edit - I'd also like to add that it is well known that his socials are very carefully managed and curated. Lack of MFC branding is absolutely deliberate. 

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1 hour ago, Mouseymoo said:

Just went to his insta to check. 

Since the Kings birthday incident the only Melbourne related post is the mater-of-fact statement declaring his commitment. 

Literally the only other posts since then are a couple pre injury and couple from the grand final. 

His latest posts are advertisements, him being professional on a footbal field distinctly sans ANY demons branded gear. 

He certainly, at least from a branding perspective, is distancing himself from Melbourne very concciously. 

This is a watch this space scenario. 

Edit - I'd also like to add that it is well known that his socials are very carefully managed and curated. Lack of MFC branding is absolutely deliberate. 

Apparently he has several insta accounts.  Which one(s) were you looking at.

Have there been many posts since the KB game.

Re this:  His latest posts are advertisements, him being professional on a footbal field distinctly sans ANY demons branded gear.  What gear was he wearing?

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18 minutes ago, Matt Demon said:

There's something off with Trac at the moment. I watched him closely this morning, he's not acting his usual self out on the track. It's like he's trying to be super professional but trying not to enjoy himself or buy in, that's the vibe I'm getting. Also have a look at his post on IG from last pre season compared to now. He refuses to acknowledge the club or any team mates in any social media. 

Yes, I had a similar thought watching him today. 

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1 hour ago, Matt Demon said:

There's something off with Trac at the moment. I watched him closely this morning, he's not acting his usual self out on the track. It's like he's trying to be super professional but trying not to enjoy himself or buy in, that's the vibe I'm getting. Also have a look at his post on IG from last pre season compared to now. He refuses to acknowledge the club or any team mates in any social media. 

Any other observations about training or a training report for us?

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3 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Ben Simmons jumped in on Trac’s Inst post today to swat away some filth bogan trying to claim him as a pie. Good on ya Ben.

Says it all.

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I sense a subtle/carefully planned petulance to Christian’s approach at the moment. 

He is acknowledging his love for footy and ticking the boxes as an athlete (early back to training) but not outwardly making the effort we’d all hoped to mend the club/culture problems he so publically surfaced.  

He’s a big boy and he can do what he wants but I hope he understands how that might impact some of the younger and fringe players in the side that are so grateful for their opportunity at the club and with each other.
 

It is probably why he never really progressed as a recognised leader at the club at any stage of his career. 
 

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I watched Tracc at the last Gosch's training, not closely. Appeared fine to me once he got over a bit of anxiety. My guess about the observations from Mansfield is that he is keeping a low profile. He is an emotional person, and maintaining an outward aloofness will keep those emotions in check.

What do those reading a disturbance in him want from him?

It really is about how he relates with the other players. He probably has a few relationships to build on and up. To suggest his body language is telling of a disengaged person, with all that he has to mend and deal with, is just speculative and rumour mongering.

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21 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

It is probably why he never really progressed as a recognised leader at the club at any stage of his career. 

He’s was probably on trac to becoming our next skipper the way he was traveling pre KB.

But fwiw, & I’ve said for years now, i think our next skipper will be Jakey Lever.

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We are going to drive him out of the club aren’t we? We are going to self-fulfil this prophecy…

Petulance begets petulance.

And what do you guys think the above is?

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5 hours ago, hardtack said:

@Demonland Can I please put in a request for the return of the Facepalm emoticon 😉

This 🤮is still available.  Quite fitting for some posts in this thread.

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13 minutes ago, rpfc said:

We are going to drive him out of the club aren’t we? We are going to self-fulfil this prophecy…

Petulance begets petulance.

And what do you guys think the above is?

Its embarrassing that some 'fans' are making quite derogatory and somewhat outlandish comments based on their 'vibe', 'sense' 'Trac not looking happy' or interpretations of social media.

Nothing objective, yet continuing the vilification ... 'subconscious bias' perhaps.

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There are probably many explanations for his “perceived” behaviour. One is that people are seeing things that just aren’t there. A second is that it’s the other players that are acting cool towards Trac - perhaps they haven’t forgiven him completely yet. 

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