Coach’s age

[Dingo 1,197]

Chris Fagan is 63 years old. At what age do you say a man is too old to coach?
Just thinking , because there are posters who say we shouldn’t recruit a player because he 30 years or older.

[Little Goffy 14,983]

Hmm, is it too late to get Fagan as a Cat B rookie?

[KozzyCan 1,006]

51 minutes ago, Dingo said:

Chris Fagan is 63 years old. At what age do you say a man is too old to coach?
Just thinking , because there are posters who say we shouldn’t recruit a player because he 30 years or older.

I'm not sure I understand your comparison to players age.

[John Crow Batty 8,895]

Fagan, the last baby boomer in AFL? 

[demon3165 2,865]

1 hour ago, Dingo said:

Chris Fagan is 63 years old. At what age do you say a man is too old to coach?
Just thinking , because there are posters who say we shouldn’t recruit a player because he 30 years or older.

Didn't know coach's play on the day as well must have missed that.

[Diamond_Jim 12,779]

The problem with coaching is that there's no reset outlets.

NFL has college football. Soccer has other leagues and national teams.

What do you do at 50 if you've been a middling AFL head coach for seven odd years.

It's a goldfish bowl existence

[DubDee 26,794]

It is really strange that footy doesn’t acknowledge maturity and experience like most other sports. 

Why would a first time coach be better than a 15 year experienced coach?

Love Fages and he has proven you don’t even need to have played the game at a high level to win a flag

[Lexinator 1,932]

I would say age is no barrier to coaching - Fages is the obviously an example of this.

If you're physically, mentally and emotionally healthy and cognitively able to still articulate and convey communications to your players effectively then it'd be up to the individual, given if he/she is still performing to expected standards of their role.

[Old Time Demon 85]

8 hours ago, DubDee said:

It is really strange that footy doesn’t acknowledge maturity and experience like most other sports. 

 

Dub...Unfortunately it is not only sport that doesn't acknowledge maturity and experience! Most workplaces are the same. 

[Ugottobekidding 1,244]

10 hours ago, John Crow Batty said:

Fagan, the last baby boomer in AFL? 

Not sure he is old enough to be a baby boomer.

[layzie 34,529]

I think you will see clubs move towards this model and also start to favour the experience. 

[DEE fence 5,060]

It is really easy to be happy for Chris, they were a proper rabble when he joined, he gave credit to oppositions when he lost, was always a pretty straight talker, and overseen progressive improvement.

I actually see what Fages has achieved as setting a pathway for Daisy to come into the Men's team one day (Demons of course). I know StKilda had a female coach, but I can see Daisy being a tactical/midfield coach, not just a development coach. 

[Queanbeyan Demon 7,069]

On 29/09/2024 at 21:13, Diamond_Jim said:

The problem with coaching is that there's no reset outlets.

NFL has college football. Soccer has other leagues and national teams.

What do you do at 50 if you've been a middling AFL head coach for seven odd years.

It's a goldfish bowl existence

Become a member of the Legislative Counsel.

[Queanbeyan Demon 7,069]

On 30/09/2024 at 07:55, Ugottobekidding said:

Not sure he is old enough to be a baby boomer.

Sure is - based on definitions provided by the ABS.

[Bystander 903]

15 hours ago, DEE fence said:

It is really easy to be happy for Chris, they were a proper rabble when he joined, he gave credit to oppositions when he lost, was always a pretty straight talker, and overseen progressive improvement.

I actually see what Fages has achieved as setting a pathway for Daisy to come into the Men's team one day (Demons of course). I know StKilda had a female coach, but I can see Daisy being a tactical/midfield coach, not just a development coach. 

Let us look at who we have in the midfield.

Yes, I am sure they could do with some advice from Daisy.

Spare me.

 

[Ugottobekidding 1,244]

3 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Sure is - based on definitions provided by the ABS.

Da boomer got da cookies then. Cannot buy experience, gotta earn it.

[praha 11,272]

On 29/09/2024 at 21:13, Diamond_Jim said:

The problem with coaching is that there's no reset outlets.

NFL has college football. Soccer has other leagues and national teams.

What do you do at 50 if you've been a middling AFL head coach for seven odd years.

It's a goldfish bowl existence

Being a head coach of a pressional sporting organisation doesn't have reset outlets?

You could work into literally any corporate advisory gig for a start. The head coach recruiting process is gruelling. And then you're effectively managing 50+ people. Not to mention you could charge thousands for corporate speaking gigs.

[Little Goffy 14,983]

2 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Da boomer got da cookies then. Cannot buy experience, gotta earn it.

Though one must remember the immortal words of Frederick II;

"A mule may go on ten campaigns with Prince Eugene of Savoy, but remains a mule."

The first thing to select for in a coach is their capacity to grow.

Related to that, it is up to the club (even including supporters) to ensure a coach has permission and space to grow.

Half the premierships of the last 20 years have been won by coaches who had faced the very real threat of axing. For example I think the alternate history scenarios if Thompson and/or Hardwick hadn't survived their 'review' processes would be a fascinating idle speculation.

Edited October 1, 2024 by Little Goffy