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Fitzroy vs South Melbourne 

16th sept 1899 at 3.00pm (a good old afternoon  game. No tele in those days.

Junction oval with 4800 attendance.

Roy Boys  won by a point. Keeping swans to 1 goal after 1/4 time.

3 goals 9 lions to 3 goals 8 swans

And the umpire was I kid you not.

I . Crapp. (Ivo was first name)

148 games and 7 grand finals umpired. Could be the razor Ray of his time

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    Good old days.When men wore socks with shoes.

    Before the vote was....

    Oh forget it.

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    At least the Cup will be staying in Victoria

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      On 21/09/2024 at 11:11, Biffen said:

    Good old days.When men wore socks with shoes.

    Before the vote was....

    Oh forget it.

    When men were men, and sheep were nervous 

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      On 21/09/2024 at 10:58, Demon17 said:

    And the umpire was I kid you not.

    I . Crapp. (Ivo was first name)

    148 games and 7 grand finals umpired.

    It's what the umpires should be named today. I hear them called that often enough at games

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      On 21/09/2024 at 11:24, Moonshadow said:

    It's what the umpires should be named today. I hear them called that often enough at games

    He umpired so many games that the public became used to hearing the radio announcers say that the umpire is Crapp. 
     
    Could have started off meaning they were held in high esteem. 

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      On 21/09/2024 at 10:58, Demon17 said:

    Fitzroy vs South Melbourne 

    16th sept 1899 at 3.00pm (a good old afternoon  game. No tele in those days.

    Junction oval with 4800 attendance.

    Roy Boys  won by a point. Keeping swans to 1 goal after 1/4 time.

    3 goals 9 lions to 3 goals 8 swans

    And the umpire was I kid you not.

    I . Crapp. (Ivo was first name)

    148 games and 7 grand finals umpired. Could be the razor Ray of his time

    Not sure how many know that they weren’t the swans at that time…

    Bloods I think 

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    Not sure what all that was about but here's the real thing in 1909 (pre 'Talkies')

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      On 21/09/2024 at 14:34, Daniel Dee Demon said:

    Does anyone else find it ironic that Sydney & Brisbane are playing in the final and Melbourne get a public holiday for it?

    Do they still do the GF parade and if so, will any of the players partake?  

    And there are any number of Fitzroy/Brisbane and South/ Sydney supporters based in Melbourne

    Doesn't necessarily show up in memberships as neither team plays a lot of games in Melbourne (consistently) By the way, they should do

    But the Swans & Lions supporters are often out in force when they play at the MCG.  Especially against the Demons

    Holding on to a large element of supporters based in Melbourne seems a no-brainer.  It's easy money and keeps everyone happy

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    Ahh yes the great Ivo Crapp

    often got a good laugh at school when looking up footy history 

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      On 21/09/2024 at 13:52, DiscoStu17 said:

    Not sure how many know that they weren’t the swans at that time…

    Bloods I think 

    Good call. I was trying to give it a modern context . Bloods up to 1933 when they adopted the swans moniker.

    We're at the great lakeside oval from 1873 is. Really old club.

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    I'm struggling to find any information supporting this claim.

    The 1896 Premiership (VFA) was decided by a "Play-off" as Collingwood and South were tied on 58 points each at end of season.

    The previous "playoff 'was between Melbourne and Geelong in 1878.

    The "Playoff" was played at the East Melbourne Cricket Ground in front od about 12000.

    South won the game 6.9 to 5.10 (Only goals were counted towards a win)

    Umpire J.J. Trait.

    Old Dee attended the match on his Penny Farthing.

     

     

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    Apologies-was searching 1896 for some reason.

    I stand corrected.

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      On 21/09/2024 at 22:18, Biffen said:

    I'm struggling to find any information supporting this claim.

    The 1896 Premiership (VFA) was decided by a "Play-off" as Collingwood and South were tied on 58 points each at end of season.

    The previous "playoff 'was between Melbourne and Geelong in 1878.

    The "Playoff" was played at the East Melbourne Cricket Ground in front od about 12000.

    South won the game 6.9 to 5.10 (Only goals were counted towards a win)

    Umpire J.J. Trait.

    Old Dee attended the match on his Penny Farthing.

     

     

    The VFL started in 1897 after 8 clubs, Swans included, broke from the VFA to form AFL.  

    The 1899 GF was settled under the old play off process used in the VFA. With the two playoff teams being South and the Roys.

    I wasn't referring to VFA.  In any case the post was about specifically South vs Fitzroy last time they met in something approaching a GF- 1899.

    My data came from the AFL Tables website that has all match scores from 1897 to last week's semi finals.

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      On 21/09/2024 at 22:21, Biffen said:

    Apologies-was searching 1896 for some reason.

    I stand corrected.

    Sorry Biff.  Just saw your post too late.

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      On 21/09/2024 at 22:19, Whispering_Jack said:

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    Fantastic post. Thanks.

    So which one above is the various members noted on here are Chris fagan and Old Dee?

     

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      On 21/09/2024 at 22:54, old dee said:

    No I was.playing!

    Apparently Keith Richards was there with his grand kids supporting the Roy boys.

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