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History lesson - For those too young to remember, Joe stepped in and helped steer the club away from an Ian Ridley and Hassa Mann led attempt to merge the club with Hawthorn. A vote that was rigged in favour of merging by a high level of corporate votes from sponsors etc. And those members who voted yes must still be feeling a little guilty. 

[censored], It is clear that our previous presidents prioritise their egos over the club's best interests. Who leaked this chat to the HS? Green or Gutnick? I hope it was not Green. If it was, I would not want him anywhere near the board, let alone the presidency.

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23 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

History lesson - For those too young to remember, Joe stepped in and helped steer the club away from an Ian Ridley and Hassa Mann led attempt to merge the club with Hawthorn. A vote that was rigged in favour of merging by a high level of corporate votes from sponsors etc. And those members who voted yes must still be feeling a little guilty. 

History Lesson - Gutnick was willing to switch allegiance and back the merger if the players agreed, according to a later statement made by Ridley.

2 minutes ago, djr said:

History Lesson - Gutnick was willing to switch allegiance and back the merger if the players agreed, according to a later statement made by Ridley.

“…made by Ridley” 😂😂😂😂

Made up by Ridley more like it 


Green is a mistake waiting to happen

In my view Now is the time foo\r strong leadership

34 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

History lesson - For those too young to remember, Joe stepped in and helped steer the club away from an Ian Ridley and Hassa Mann led attempt to merge the club with Hawthorn. A vote that was rigged in favour of merging by a high level of corporate votes from sponsors etc. And those members who voted yes must still be feeling a little guilty. 

This is true. Everyone can laugh at him now but he did save the club. He also got Neil Balme sacked as coach and replaced by Neale Daniher, with immediate excellent results.

 
3 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

“…made by Ridley” 😂😂😂😂

Made up by Ridley more like it 

History Lesson: I think I would trust Ridley's word over Gutnick's anyday. And by the way, I was an anti-merger.

11 minutes ago, Kent said:

Green is a mistake waiting to happen

In my view Now is the time foo\r strong leadership

How many times has it been said that he’s pretty much in a caretaker role? He won’t be permanent. Jee whiz


29 minutes ago, djr said:

History Lesson: I think I would trust Ridley's word over Gutnick's anyday. And by the way, I was an anti-merger.

I vote for the Animal Justice party. State and Federal.

24 minutes ago, djr said:

History Lesson: I think I would trust Ridley's word over Gutnick's anyday. And by the way, I was an anti-merger.

Don't get me wrong - whilst I supported at the time and always will support, Joe coming in in '96, I don't want Joe anywhere near the club these days and disagree with every one of his statements he made as a result of his lunch with Green. (except maybe the Goodwin one (although I'm not jewish))

Separation of church/synagogue/mosque and football club, thanks very much. 

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17 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

Separation of church/synagogue/mosque and football club, thanks very much. 

A good and useful commandment coming from you, Adam the God!

10 hours ago, daisycutter said:

so joe invites greeny to lunch, does all the talking, then rings up robbo to tell him what he told greeny

greeny should be more careful who he has lunch with.  first lesson for new pres.

Yup, hopefully Green does see this for what it is.  We already have problems with stuff leaking to the press, dont need advise from another snake.  


1 hour ago, Foopy on the telly said:

How many times has it been said that he’s pretty much in a caretaker role? He won’t be permanent. Jee whiz

Excuse me that has not  been formally announced as I understand it

GEE whiz

11 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

The person who I believe should move on is Gutnick himself - I once supported the bloke but that was 20 years ago. Today, he has zero credibility when it comes to football.

11 hours ago, rpfc said:

Err, ok, then.

As Kamala would say - “we’re not going back.”

10 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Bizarre that Brad Green would even reach out to Joe or even take the time to sit down and seek advice..

Laughable. 

10 hours ago, Chelly said:

Or get him to pay out the balance of the pledge he made when he became pres?

9 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Both Jewish AND non-Jewish... well, that settles it.

Seriously, I had my doubts about Green having the nous for this position, even in a temporary capacity. This certainly doesn’t settle my nerves.

9 hours ago, Clayton van Oliver said:

Gee there's a reason to be concerned that the old boys' club has finally won its way back into influence over the last month. Why is Brad Green meeting with Joe [censored] Gutnik? Is he gonna sit down with each of us amd get our opinions? 

6 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

Joe has a very interesting history. I wouldn't be taking any advice from him on football matters.

What next ?  Getting Cam Schwab back as an advisor !!

5 hours ago, hardtack said:

I’m an atheist and all of my atheistic, agnostic, and believer friends, think that Joe has lost the plot.

That irritated me so much I wanted to go on a long rant but the collective effort here is superb.

Joe Gutnik is not a man we want pulling any strings or holding any proxy influence around the club. He used to be 'just a bit' bonkers and his extreme vanity served the club well in a crucial moment, but these days he is absolutely a noxious menace.

I was certainly pro-Joe back in 96 when he and Brian Dixon stopped the merger which would have killed any interest I had in footy altogether. 

 

But now....no....I am not sure how the paper would even publish such a nothing article must be desperate for more "Melbourne in turmoil" content

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Back on the topic I agree with Joe on one thing... Goodwin needs to go!

what's next? greeny has a lunch with jeff kennet for advice, duly reported by robbo.

at this rate we won't need the planned reviews 😂

Why would anyone listen to Joe? He fired Neil Balme who went on to have a brilliant career overseeing multiple flags for multiple clubs (not as coach tho). Joe went on as thoroughly discredited businessman. He knows nothing about football. It is bewildering that Brad Green agreed to meet with him.

 
22 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Back on the topic I agree with Joe on one thing... Goodwin needs to go!

Why?

53 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

What is Green’s job outside footy?

Retired AFL footballer


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