POSTGAME: Rd 23 vs Gold Coast

[Adam The God 29,291]

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

My theory is that when Oliver isn't playing Viney becomes 'numero uno' of the inside midfielders and his game lifts accordingly.  We saw the same last year when Oliver didn't play. 

He came 7th in the Brownlow lasty year.  Without checking my guess many of them were when Oliver didn't play or when he was playing injured.  He will get 3 votes yesterday but deserved many more.

Viney's game yesterday was herculean, especially after he had a serious knock to his shoulder in the first quarter.   Showing the world the dees aren't done and underestimate us at one's peril.

So you try and split the stoppage attendances between Clarry and Viney. Or make them both rotate as the defensive mids and attacking mids.

You've definitely got a point that Jack stands up without Clarry.

[DiscoStu17 672]

One of my favourite pieces of play yesterday was Petty’s mark for the first goal of Q2. 
Petty out bodied Collins, while Disco had body on Ballard. Bit of a shame Clohesy was allowed to come in but Billings was correctly on the defensive side. Lucky he wasn’t any bigger.

Too many times over the past 3 years marking forwards have been left to compete with 3 defenders or more.

Forwards need to be as much or more accountable than defenders. Looking forward to seeing the results of another preseason. 

[Scoop Junior 3,395]

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Watched the replay last night. Clearly Goodwin told the players that the shackles are off and it was time to just go and take the game on and have a bit of fun.

I thought whilst Rivers was poor by foot, he Bowey and Langdon were the ones that really got us going with their run and carry. They were top 3 for metres gained.

Please Simon, implement this game plan over the off season. We looked dangerous when we take the game on and get it quickly into our forwards.

No coincidence that Petty, JVR and Turner had combination of 10 goals between them because they got one on one contests due to quick ball movement instead of being bombed on their heads in a pack.

It’s always a bit easier to play with more freedom when there is little on the line. But while we did play well, I don’t think there was any radical change in game plan or methodology - we simply played a side that offered virtually no resistance after half time. I couldn’t believe how pathetic the Suns were in letting us do as we pleased after half time. It was bordering on a training drill. It wasn’t a true reflection of the usual pressure you face week in week out in senior footy.

[SFebes 4,860]

Haven’t seen the game yet and probably won’t this week but I’ll tame my excitement, we beat up a hapless Gold Coast who’d lost to WCE and North in recent weeks. We still have a look of work to do. As a whole club, from coaching to player retention and beyond. 

[Deemania since 56 6,547]

1 hour ago, Macca said:

Pleasing to see a style of play with a far more attacking mindset.  Slick, quick, precise & daring

And a better balance of corridor football whilst still using teammates who have created space away from the corridor

That space creation attacked with purpose was invigoratingly revelational.

[Dee Zephyr 19,145]

1 minute ago, SFebes said:

Haven’t seen the game yet and probably won’t this week but I’ll tame my excitement, we beat up a hapless Gold Coast who’d lost to WCE and North in recent weeks. We still have a look of work to do. As a whole club, from coaching to player retention and beyond. 

No one is getting carried away, but let the supporters smile even if it’s for one week. Everybody knows there’s a lot of work to be done over the summer, some just can’t enjoy a win.

[titan_uranus 24,556]

11 minutes ago, Scoop Junior said:

It’s always a bit easier to play with more freedom when there is little on the line. But while we did play well, I don’t think there was any radical change in game plan or methodology - we simply played a side that offered virtually no resistance after half time. I couldn’t believe how pathetic the Suns were in letting us do as we pleased after half time. It was bordering on a training drill. It wasn’t a true reflection of the usual pressure you face week in week out in senior footy.

Pretty sure the pressure stat came up on screen in the third and theirs was high, and higher than ours. 

It definitely felt like their intensity lowered as the game went on but IMO it was only the fourth quarter where it felt like they truly stopped. In the third I felt like we put a gap on them when they were still up and about. 

[Scoop Junior 3,395]

5 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Pretty sure the pressure stat came up on screen in the third and theirs was high, and higher than ours. 

It definitely felt like their intensity lowered as the game went on but IMO it was only the fourth quarter where it felt like they truly stopped. In the third I felt like we put a gap on them when they were still up and about. 

I don’t really rate that pressure stat. I’ve seen teams with high pressure stats hardly lay a glove on the opposition.

I think the eye is the best test of pressure and GC waved the white flag in the second half - particularly in the last quarter. There’s a reason Dimma labelled it their worst performance of the year (and they’ve had some shockers). It wasn’t just their pressure, other parts of their game including their centre clearance work were woeful.

Again not taking anything away from a really good performance by us with an under-strength side, but my comment was in response to the notion of ‘that’s what happens when you take the game on’. We aren’t going to face that level of inept opposition every week. 

[DeeZone 8,924]

Very proud of the whole team yesterday, that is the deepest that we have batted since the Saints game. Never really felt concerned, our centre square work was exceptional, we got the ball in quickly and our three talls all stood up, Melksham is so calm as our forward general and Fritta played up the ground more, his run down the wing with 4 bounces then kicked long to Turner was scintillating stuff. Jack’s game was elite as was Ed’s and Max worked his heart out to give us first use. A great team game, hard, tough and united and we were so full of run that they wilted half way through the third whereas we were still running hard until the siren sounded, great game Dees.!!!

[WalkingCivilWar 39,256]

5 hours ago, Stevienic23 said:

My very good mail has it that Trac wasn't happy with this initial press release after his injury. It was too footy centric where he would have prefered a bit more sympathy towards the seriousness of the injury and that footy is taking a back seat whilst he concentrates on his health and the timeline will look after itself. This on top of everything else this year has led to leaks from his management, particularly wanting to play for a club with a bigger following so he can play in front of bigger crowds and set himself up more after footy.

He's been alone with his thoughts for too long and not been around the club. He needs a cuddle and reassurance and we'll get him back on side. He will be held to his contract.

 

 

Tracc needs a cuddle and reassurance??? Yeah nah. A cuddle and reassurance wouldn’t make a scrap of difference. You know who does need a cuddle and reassurance and actually thrives on it? That’d be Clarrie.

Clarrie’s not said a bad word about the club. He’s forever grateful for the patience and care afforded him by all: the FD, Goody, line coaches and almost all the players. He’s determined to repay everyone in the only way he knows: by getting back to the player he was and we all know he can be again. He’s driven by this ambition.

Clarrie is childlike, not a malicious bone in his body. He couldn’t be scheming and calculating if his life depended on it. It’s often said Clarrie’s not the brightest but I’ll tell you this much… Tracc isn’t half the person Clarrie is. That’s my opinion and I’ve every reason to feel this way. 

Edited August 18 by WalkingCivilWar

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6 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Tracc needs a cuddle and reassurance??? Yeah nah. A cuddle and reassurance wouldn’t make a scrap of difference. You know who does need a cuddle and reassurance and actually thrives on it? That’d be Clarrie.

Clarrie’s not said a bad word about the club. He’s forever grateful for the patience and care afforded him by all: the FD, Goody, line coaches and almost all the players. He’s determined to repay everyone in the only way he knows: by getting back to the player he was and we all know he can be again. He’s driven by this ambition.

Clarrie is childlike, not a malicious bone in his body. He couldn’t be scheming and calculating if his life depended on it. It’s often said Clarrie’s not the brightest but I’ll tell you this much… Tracc isn’t half the person Clarrie is. That’s my opinion and I’ve every reason to feel this way. 

Great to hear that Clarry is focussed on getting back to his best.

And it sounds like Trac has a lot of bridges to build.

[John Crow Batty 8,763]

25 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Tracc needs a cuddle and reassurance??? Yeah nah. A cuddle and reassurance wouldn’t make a scrap of difference. You know who does need a cuddle and reassurance and actually thrives on it? That’d be Clarrie.

Clarrie’s not said a bad word about the club. He’s forever grateful for the patience and care afforded him by all: the FD, Goody, line coaches and almost all the players. He’s determined to repay everyone in the only way he knows: by getting back to the player he was and we all know he can be again. He’s driven by this ambition.

Clarrie is childlike, not a malicious bone in his body. He couldn’t be scheming and calculating if his life depended on it. It’s often said Clarrie’s not the brightest but I’ll tell you this much… Tracc isn’t half the person Clarrie is. That’s my opinion and I’ve every reason to feel this way. 

Ouch!

[FreedFromDesire 583]

46 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Tracc needs a cuddle and reassurance??? Yeah nah. A cuddle and reassurance wouldn’t make a scrap of difference. You know who does need a cuddle and reassurance and actually thrives on it? That’d be Clarrie.

Clarrie’s not said a bad word about the club. He’s forever grateful for the patience and care afforded him by all: the FD, Goody, line coaches and almost all the players. He’s determined to repay everyone in the only way he knows: by getting back to the player he was and we all know he can be again. He’s driven by this ambition.

Clarrie is childlike, not a malicious bone in his body. He couldn’t be scheming and calculating if his life depended on it. It’s often said Clarrie’s not the brightest but I’ll tell you this much… Tracc isn’t half the person Clarrie is. That’s my opinion and I’ve every reason to feel this way. 

I know you often hear many murmurings given you're around at training, involved with the Demon Army, and have some links with player families WCW. I've noticed you make a few posts now that I've taken as being critical of Petracca, even if not overt. I understand you probably have things you can't say, but I'm taking that as perhaps word from inside the 4 walls has not been very positive about Christian's recent 'antics' for want of a better word.

I won't ask you to elaborate, but this doesn't seem a positive sign.

Edited August 18 by FreedFromDesire

[Bang Bang Bang 5,760]

1 hour ago, SFebes said:

Haven’t seen the game yet and probably won’t this week but I’ll tame my excitement, we beat up a hapless Gold Coast who’d lost to WCE and North in recent weeks. We still have a look of work to do. As a whole club, from coaching to player retention and beyond. 

At least, I dunno, watch the game, before you bring your pessimism to the post match thread. What’s the point otherwise? 

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,817]

22 hours ago, Flowergirl said:

Trac was busy having coffee with Lachie Neale this morning, according to the Herald Sun. 

All good they were just talking cash converters ads. Nothing to see here.

[Neil Crompton 5,308]

27 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Tracc needs a cuddle and reassurance??? Yeah nah. A cuddle and reassurance wouldn’t make a scrap of difference. You know who does need a cuddle and reassurance and actually thrives on it? That’d be Clarrie.

Clarrie’s not said a bad word about the club. He’s forever grateful for the patience and care afforded him by all: the FD, Goody, line coaches and almost all the players. He’s determined to repay everyone in the only way he knows: by getting back to the player he was and we all know he can be again. He’s driven by this ambition.

Clarrie is childlike, not a malicious bone in his body. He couldn’t be scheming and calculating if his life depended on it. It’s often said Clarrie’s not the brightest but I’ll tell you this much… Tracc isn’t half the person Clarrie is. That’s my opinion and I’ve every reason to feel this way. 

Thank you for your comments on Clarrie. That is very reassuring. 
As for Tracc, without actually saying it, you painted a very unflattering picture of him - which I’m sure was your real intent. It seems that the ego-maniac kid that first arrived at the club perhaps hasn’t really changed, only disguised that trait. I also infer that perhaps Tracc has been less than accepting of Clarrie’s transgressions, and that Batman and Robyn are no longer the dynamic duo. If the divide at the club actually stems from all of this, then I hope we give Tracc similar orders that we gave Clarrie - shape up or ship out. 

[WalkingCivilWar 39,256]

10 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Thank you for your comments on Clarrie. That is very reassuring. 
As for Tracc, without actually saying it, you painted a very unflattering picture of him - which I’m sure was your real intent. It seems that the ego-maniac kid that first arrived at the club perhaps hasn’t really changed, only disguised that trait. I also infer that perhaps Tracc has been less than accepting of Clarrie’s transgressions, and that Batman and Robyn are no longer the dynamic duo. If the divide at the club actually stems from all of this, then I hope we give Tracc similar orders that we gave Clarrie - shape up or ship out. 

You’re still the Clubhouse leader of reading between the lines NC. 🙂You’re spot on again.

[SFebes 4,860]

20 minutes ago, Bang Bang Bang said:

At least, I dunno, watch the game, before you bring your pessimism to the post match thread. What’s the point otherwise? 

It’s not all rainbows and unicorns….

it just covers over cracks beating a hapless GC. 
 

I don’t have to watch the game to know there are major issues, blind Freddy can see that. Enjoy the win, gosh people are overly sensitive and emotional on this site. 

[WalkingCivilWar 39,256]

20 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I know you often hear many murmurings given you're around at training, involved with the Demon Army, and have some links with player families WCW. I've noticed you make a few posts now that I've taken as being critical of Petracca, even if not overt. I understand you probably have things you can't say, but I'm taking that as perhaps word from inside the 4 walls has not been very positive about Christian's recent 'antics' for want of a better word.

I won't ask you to elaborate, but this doesn't seem a positive sign.

For sure I can’t elaborate but in this instance I’m sure I don’t need to. 

[ElDiablo14 4,903]

14 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Also, a lady working at security at GC airport commented on our players. She said every single one of them was polite and respectful and this is always how they are when they come through security. Apparently there are “quite a few” AFL teams whose players “could learn a thing or two about manners” from our boys. She told me she’d just emailed her manager to share her observation… again.

Me, upon hearing this…

Bet she was talking about a certain club that wears black and white. 🤢🤢🤢

[WalkingCivilWar 39,256]

2 hours ago, SFebes said:

Haven’t seen the game yet and probably won’t this week but I’ll tame my excitement, we beat up a hapless Gold Coast who’d lost to WCE and North in recent weeks. We still have a look of work to do. As a whole club, from coaching to player retention and beyond. 

This is the point where I stopped reading, because what follows this is meaningless. 

[WalkingCivilWar 39,256]

2 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Bet she was talking about a certain club that wears black and white. 🤢🤢🤢

Hey! Don’t think for a millisecond I didn’t press her on names. I even tried the old blink twice when I mention a club trick. She laughed but wouldn’t come to the party. Fair enough, too. 

[BoBo 2,912]

2 hours ago, SFebes said:

Haven’t seen the game yet and probably won’t this week but I’ll tame my excitement, we beat up a hapless Gold Coast who’d lost to WCE and North in recent weeks. We still have a look of work to do. As a whole club, from coaching to player retention and beyond. 

We’re the only interstate club to beat them at home this year aren’t we (unless I’m wrong)? I don’t know how hapless they are up there.

[ElDiablo14 4,903]

Just now, BoBo said:

We’re the only interstate club to beat them at home this year aren’t we (unless I’m wrong)? I don’t know how hapless they are up there.

I believe you are correct.

Only Brisbane has won at their home ground.

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,694]

1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Tracc needs a cuddle and reassurance??? Yeah nah. A cuddle and reassurance wouldn’t make a scrap of difference. You know who does need a cuddle and reassurance and actually thrives on it? That’d be Clarrie.

Clarrie’s not said a bad word about the club. He’s forever grateful for the patience and care afforded him by all: the FD, Goody, line coaches and almost all the players. He’s determined to repay everyone in the only way he knows: by getting back to the player he was and we all know he can be again. He’s driven by this ambition.

Clarrie is childlike, not a malicious bone in his body. He couldn’t be scheming and calculating if his life depended on it. It’s often said Clarrie’s not the brightest but I’ll tell you this much… Tracc isn’t half the person Clarrie is. That’s my opinion and I’ve every reason to feel this way. 

I really need a cuddle and reassurance myself @WalkingCivilWar. It's been a hell of a season.

(Clarrie is the embodiment of the Jungian innocence archetype.)