10 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

For all anyone know maybe Goody isn't even looking to coach us beyond his current deal. Doesn't his new wife and her kids live in Sydney? He could get an assistants gig up there and take over from Dean Cox if things go pear shaped at the swans.

I'd be happy to release him 😉

Win , win

Happy Families

Jordan Lewis anyone?

49 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Once again, cherry-picking. You're ignoring all the times when coaches couldn't implement change over a preseason. You need to consider ALL cases, not just the ones that suit your propos.

e.g. Clarkson is a good coach, how come we're yet to see real improvement at North over what now, 3 pre-seasons? And staying with Clarkson, how come he couldn't lift Hawthorn when they started to fall in 2019? He had 3 pre-seasons, yet they went backwards across 2019 - 2021, a trend that Mitchell then took another 3 pre-seasons to turn around. Through that Hawthorn had 5 or 6 pre-seasons yet stagnated in the lower reaches of the ladder the whole time.

And in regards to all this, you only have to look at the almost teams like Essendon or St Kilda with their revolving doors of coaches and endless, endless pre-seasons for no real substantive improvement or progress.

etc. etc.

Can you stop with this loser mentality please Bing….

We have been in the same rut for 4 years now and you are suggesting that we just keep doing the same ship next year and probably the year after that.

Because it’s all too hard.

Try learning an operating System on a Computer 30 years ago in 2 weeks to run a National TV Program

When you have to change, you just do it, because there is no choice

To think this list cannot score efficiently after 4 years is actually a disgrace considering the coin everybody is on.

Goodwin and his assistants cannot get the list 100% on board is the basic answer,

we the Members have actually been very patient, although some of us picked the fault a long time ago

If we go into next year with the same old system, we won’t have 40,000 members…

Think about it….

Left field but get Stevie Johnson down in some capacity.
Let's start with forward line coach.
Coached Yarrawonga to a flag in 2023.
Lost GF by 3pts in '24.

Currently has his team sitting 2nd in the Geelong league.
Listening on the radio seems a very astute footy analyst.

2 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Left field but get Stevie Johnson down in some capacity.
Let's start with forward line coach.
Coached Yarrawonga to a flag in 2023.
Lost GF by 3pts in '24.

Currently has his team sitting 2nd in the Geelong league.
Listening on the radio seems a very astute footy analyst.

Good Call

2 hours ago, tiers said:

FWIW. We are losing games this year even with more inside 50s and more scoring shots. We can argue till the cows come home about whether it is the backs, mids, forwards or on baller who are culpable, but the fact remains that this has been going on for years and years and we have a coach and coaching panel who cannot fix it.

Time for a change. Head coach, assistant coaches or boot studder. It does not matter - there must be serious change. If Goody can't show us he can fix it, then he might have to go.

Sad but true.

Yep ON YER BIKES, the whole damn lot!

22 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Lost GF by 3pts in '24.

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

stop with this loser mentality

42 minutes ago, hardtack said:

All of this talk about changing coach must be making Kossie a bit nervous; particularly if one of Trac or Oliver (or both) were to be traded out for picks. These are the people who he has a good relationship with, and it was those relationships that probably played no small part in getting him across the line.

How would he feel having just signed a 9 year deal, only to lose the people that he felt closest to? I hope that if things do head down that path, that it doesn’t have a detrimental affect on his game next year. I understand that such decisions must be made for the betterment of the club, and I know they’re supposed to be professionals and would be expected to cope with such events, and yes, I know that one player cannot be bigger

Once again, cherry-picking. You're ignoring all the times when coaches couldn't implement change over a preseason. You need to consider ALL cases, not just the ones that suit your propos.

e.g. Clarkson is a good coach, how come we're yet to see real improvement at North over what now, 3 pre-seasons? And staying with Clarkson, how come he couldn't lift Hawthorn when they started to fall in 2019? He had 3 pre-seasons, yet they went backwards across 2019 - 2021, a trend that Mitchell then took another 3 pre-seasons to turn around. Through that Hawthorn had 5 or 6 pre-seasons yet stagnated in the lower reaches of the ladder the whole time.

And in regards to all this, you only have to look at the almost teams like Essendon or St Kilda with their revolving doors of coaches and endless, endless pre-seasons for no real substantive improvement or progress.

etc. etc.

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

Once again, cherry-picking. You're ignoring all the times when coaches couldn't implement change over a preseason. You need to consider ALL cases, not just the ones that suit your propos.

e.g. Clarkson is a good coach, how come we're yet to see real improvement at North over what now, 3 pre-seasons? And staying with Clarkson, how come he couldn't lift Hawthorn when they started to fall in 2019? He had 3 pre-seasons, yet they went backwards across 2019 - 2021, a trend that Mitchell then took another 3 pre-seasons to turn around. Through that Hawthorn had 5 or 6 pre-seasons yet stagnated in the lower reaches of the ladder the whole time.

And in regards to all this, you only have to look at the almost teams like Essendon or St Kilda with their revolving doors of coaches and endless, endless pre-seasons for no real substantive improvement or progress.

etc. etc.

Leaving that aside none of that means a change isn’t the right move

What would it take for you to be convinced?

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

No. "Logic" suggests that you have to look at ALL factors, not just "the current regime".

But heh, at the end of the day the human brain is lazy and would prefer easy answers (which is why fools like Trump get elected), and "the current regime" is as easy as it gets when it comes to scapegoating.

No, the lazy thing is to do nothing, paralysis through indecision. Continue doing the same thing and expecting a different result, sure to work 🙄

1 hour ago, Fork 'em said:

Left field but get Stevie Johnson down in some capacity.
Let's start with forward line coach.
Coached Yarrawonga to a flag in 2023.
Lost GF by 3pts in '24.

Currently has his team sitting 2nd in the Geelong league.
Listening on the radio seems a very astute footy analyst.

Yeah nah.

I'm an ex Yarrawonga boy and still have many contacts there through mates and family. He may have won them a premiership but he was incredibly toxic off field.

Club was glad to see the back of him.

Wasn't well liked at Sydney either. Guy is a grub.

Edited June 19Jun 19 by dazzledavey36

1 hour ago, Fork 'em said:

Left field but get Stevie Johnson down in some capacity.
Let's start with forward line coach.
Coached Yarrawonga to a flag in 2023.
Lost GF by 3pts in '24.

Currently has his team sitting 2nd in the Geelong league.
Listening on the radio seems a very astute footy analyst.

Dont mind this at all!👍

59 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah nah.

I'm an ex Yarrawonga boy and still have many contacts there through mates and family. He may have won them a premiership but he was incredibly toxic off field.

Club was glad to see the back of him.

Wasn't well liked at Sydney either. Guy is a grub.

What are the knocks ?

Asking for a friend

21 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

What are the knocks ?

Asking for a friend

I work with a bloke whos son plays for Yarra, gets to most home games and had abit to do with Johnson while at the club.
He's never had a bad word but I'll ask about this scuttlebutt when I see him monday.

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah nah.

I'm an ex Yarrawonga boy and still have many contacts there through mates and family. He may have won them a premiership but he was incredibly toxic off field.

Club was glad to see the back of him.

Wasn't well liked at Sydney either. Guy is a grub.

Great insight

What this highlights is the difficulty in identifying a good coach,

Many on here suggesting Longmire,Buckley and Simpson based on their media performances. It’s not difficult to review footage select clips and impress the masses with knowledge.

Let’s select Johnson because he was a gun player, Jordan Lewis what exactly has he done to suggest he wants to coach, I’d have thought he’s firmly entrenched in the media.

Mail I have is Skipworth is probably the next cab off the rank as ready to take a senior gig, it’s a tough gig but there are lots of variables and don’t kid yourself that timing and back room stability isn’t a major impact on field

I’m not sure McRae would be an instant success without Nick Daicos (an absolute game changer) coming in and Maguire moving on

Geelong are a very strong club off field and I rate Scott as the best coach going around but he had many detractors for years saying he inherited a Premiership team but couldn’t get it done on his own.

Unless we finish horrifically I’m not keen on moving him without a list change up. Like some of our kids coming through and want some tough decisions made re some senior players

We have 9 games left

If we win 5 of those and increase our% by just 5 I'll go he..but I'll concede Simon might have made a case for staying on.

I'm not a fan. I'll make that gambit.

Who on the converse will sign his papers eos if we don't??

Edited June 19Jun 19 by beelzebub

11 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Geelong are a very strong club off field and I rate Scott as the best coach going around but he had many detractors for years saying he inherited a Premiership team but couldn’t get it done on his own.

Also helps if you can flip farms to attract top line free agents every few years.
I'm sure we'd look a different outfit with Dangerfield, Cameron and now Smith running around.
Not a bad lifestyle over that side of the bay playing on a home ground paid for by taxpayers.

Edited June 19Jun 19 by Fork 'em

15 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Also helps if you can flip farms to attract top line free agents every few years.
I'm sure we'd look a different outfit with Dangerfield, Cameron and now Smith running around.
Not a bad lifestyle over that side of the bay playing on a home ground paid for by taxpayers.

I don’t buy the farm thing, just like I don’t blame umpires, we as Aussies have a shocking habit of finding excuses and laying the blame as to why we lost or didn’t get a player etc.

Cats are fortunate they are outside of Melbourne and provide a great lifestyle which many would love. They have turned their club around through Cook, Costa and Wells. Add to that a gun coach and unique ground and your halfway there.

We need to identify how we control our destiny and brand moving forward. I don’t look on the two straight sets losses as others do, to me it’s part of being up in the 8 for a decent stint and starting again in September. 2022 we were cooked come September but I felt in 2023 we were firing just before September and we’re in it up to our necks until Petty, Melksham and Brayshaw were ruled out.

Unlike the Pre Roos era we have Kings birthday (post big freeze) and Anzac Eve which provide opportunities for players to play on the big stage.

Get a settled board, maintain the 2 blockbuster games and be regular finals side for 4 to 5 years at a time and we’ll be fine in attracting/maintaining players and being a good club

6 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Get a settled board

I think this and the management of the club have been bigger issues than many on here think.

...the club has been run this year by an interim President and interim CEO.

Not sure how this has been allowed to happen.

19 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think this and the management of the club have been bigger issues than many on here think.

...the club has been run this year by an interim President and interim CEO.

Not sure how this has been allowed to happen.

Members had a vote in December last year. 4 out of 8 directors were up. We made a choice.

58 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think this and the management of the club have been bigger issues than many on here think.

...the club has been run this year by an interim President and interim CEO.

Not sure how this has been allowed to happen.

shouldn’t effect the Football Department at all.

The Club has been running smoothly with the interim positions.

The Football Department has not given 100% performances, that has been laid bare, and because of it we are sitting in the Bottom 4

2 hours ago, rjay said:

I think this and the management of the club have been bigger issues than many on here think.

...the club has been run this year by an interim President and interim CEO.

Not sure how this has been allowed to happen.

The evidence is there. No smoking guns.

Stephen Smith and Paul Guerra will be leaders at the end of the season.

Do you really think the players when they line up for a goal are thinking about this??

To be honest I don’t know what our forwards and on ballers go think? It’s not conducive to our effort as evidenced again in 2025. I to jink it’s mainly mental but some players may just be shizen [censored] for goal and should be moved on if no shrink can help.

Fritta still has some gremlins and isn’t as good as 2/3 years ago with his accuracy. But many miss far to often the simple shots and we need to revise where our forwards lead to solve this problem.

7 hours ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

Members had a vote in December last year. 4 out of 8 directors were up. We made a choice.

My trifecta didn't get up!

7 hours ago, Harvey Wallbanger said:

Members had a vote in December last year. 4 out of 8 directors were up. We made a choice.

The way the new nomination system works is massively skewed to the incumbents board members, there wasn't much of a chance of that vote changing anything.

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

My trifecta didn't get up!

Mine either

till members in large numbers participate in these votes we will get mediocrity