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Can we now at least all agree ??

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    1 minute ago, beelzebub said:

    Can we now at least all agree ??

    I think we are Bub. I’m reading from the posters who come out of the woodwork consistently when the chips are down to attack the club/personnel as per usual.

    What is surprising me, is many who don’t have a propensity to attack the club speaking out and calling out for change asap.

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    3 minutes ago, Nietaphart said:

    I think we are Bub. I’m reading from the posters who come out of the woodwork consistently when the chips are down to attack the club/personnel as per usual.

    What is surprising me, is many who don’t have a propensity to attack the club speaking out and calling out for change asap.

    In reality... we just want success, respect and concerted effort.

    We're all Demons end of the day.

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    21 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    I've found their content to be a bit sensationalist and controversial for the sake of it but they monetise a lot of their product so need to stand out I guess. I haven't watched anything of theirs in a while but did check out that video after seeing it mentioned on this site a couple of time. Personally, I didn't think what he said was a big deal. They're unlikely to get access to any current MFC employees this way but I'm sure they'd know that.

    I don’t particularly like him/them either but there’s no doubt he has some connections and probably aware of some stuff that most of the supporters are not.

    The amount of secret squirrel stuff around the club since the flag has been extraordinary. I hope someone does shed light on what’s actually been going on.

    We have 15-16 premiership players and there is not a single one of them who has improved since then.

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    7 minutes ago, BDA said:

    performative ranting rab. it's to attract clicks

    do you look any of the EPL fan channels? they're toxic and make DL look like the height of politeness

    Yeah, that's pretty much my take too BDA. There's just so much ranting and rage everywhere. I couldn't take any more than 30 seconds of anything American sports related. I occasionally have a look at one of the many Rangers youtube fan channels but prefer to watch football content from the likes of Stunt Pegg or On The Road.

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    36 minutes ago, Nietaphart said:

    Allow those who have an idea run the club. Coterie’s do not have knowledge, they have money. Change should be in the hands of professionals, not dictated by those with money. Your theory would take the club back to the dark days of the 70’s, 80’s, etc.

    Btw, the AFL was the main factor in getting Roos and Jackson.

    So who has ideas at the moment??

    Btw there were other factors who bought in Roos. The AFL helped us with PJ

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    3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    So who has ideas at the moment??

    Btw there were other factors who bought in Roos. The AFL helped us with PJ

    You are asking the wrong persons You Little, but I will say it is definitely not from those who have fat wallets as the only factor.

    Roos was completely driven by the AFL.

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    1 minute ago, Nietaphart said:

    You are asking the wrong persons You Little, but I will say it is definitely not from those who have fat wallets as the only factor.

    Roos was completely driven by the AFL.

    Of course it’s not the only factor, but there is involvement

    The AFL knew about Roos and they were happy for it to proceed, but they weren’t the only party involved.

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    2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

    Of course it’s not the only factor, but there is involvement

    The AFL knew about Roos and they were happy for it to proceed, but they weren’t the only party involved.

    Roos would not have come to the club without the AFL backing. The USA and retirement was his passion at the time.

    We can argue semantics here. Agree to disagree!

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    OK so we are unwatchable, playing poorly and we have no recognisable team plan.

    How will sackin g Goodwinn fix this? The planning and training since last year has been overseen by Goodwin, the assistants and management whom I all hope are on the same page. Will any one of them step up and do it differently? The answer is NO we are just reacting to how bad we are and want to sack the coach. We cannot sack the players and I have no fear that whoever is interim coach will not do anything different. The time for personell change is later in the year not after round 5. Goodwin alone is not the problem....

    On radio this morning allegedly Mark Bickley stated that he ran into Goodwin pre match and asked about his coaching tenure. Bickley stated that Goodwin told him it would be hard to come back from here. If true then Goody knows he is on thin ice. I also believe that he will do everything humanly possible as head coach to turn it around. Another rumour is that there will be a board meeting tomorrow night sigh discussing the coach. He isn't solely responsible, the assistants and players are not entirely blameless.

    I support my club and will abide with their decisions. I have no doubt they are all trying their level best to get it right and win, it just isn't happening and I have no control over it but I hope Goodwin in the short term can change it up.

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    5 minutes ago, Older demon said:

    OK so we are unwatchable, playing poorly and we have no recognisable team plan.

    How will sackin g Goodwinn fix this? The planning and training since last year has been overseen by Goodwin, the assistants and management whom I all hope are on the same page. Will any one of them step up and do it differently? The answer is NO we are just reacting to how bad we are and want to sack the coach. We cannot sack the players and I have no fear that whoever is interim coach will not do anything different. The time for personell change is later in the year not after round 5. Goodwin alone is not the problem....

    On radio this morning allegedly Mark Bickley stated that he ran into Goodwin pre match and asked about his coaching tenure. Bickley stated that Goodwin told him it would be hard to come back from here. If true then Goody knows he is on thin ice. I also believe that he will do everything humanly possible as head coach to turn it around. Another rumour is that there will be a board meeting tomorrow night sigh discussing the coach. He isn't solely responsible, the assistants and players are not entirely blameless.

    I support my club and will abide with their decisions. I have no doubt they are all trying their level best to get it right and win, it just isn't happening and I have no control over it but I hope Goodwin in the short term can change it up.

    It stops a rot. Simple as that. It's a circuit breaker.

    Provides opportunity for change of rac.

    Buckley... whatever...another Adelaide team mate. Fluff stuff really.

    In respect to Simon's dilemma...it's not thin ice... that was yesterday. Today... somehow he's above fresh air.

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    59 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    I've found their content to be a bit sensationalist and controversial for the sake of it but they monetise a lot of their product so need to stand out I guess. I haven't watched anything of theirs in a while but did check out that video after seeing it mentioned on this site a couple of time. Personally, I didn't think what he said was a big deal. They're unlikely to get access to any current MFC employees this way but I'm sure they'd know that.

    Some of the guests he has on are reasonable but I find him completely melodramatic and frankly damaging to the club's brand.

    Reminds me a lot of the blues supporter podcasts/twitter accounts/channels. All incredibly dramatic, up and down, entitled, and damage the perception of their club. Not all publicity is good publicity.

    We all hate the filth but the perks of having a 90 IQ average supporter base is they are loyal to a fault. They cheer when they are losing, they back their people in when things are bad and don't drag the place down.

    I am aware of the slight hypocrisy in this post.

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    4 minutes ago, Older demon said:

    OK so we are unwatchable, playing poorly and we have no recognisable team plan.

    How will sackin g Goodwinn fix this? The planning and training since last year has been overseen by Goodwin, the assistants and management whom I all hope are on the same page. Will any one of them step up and do it differently? The answer is NO we are just reacting to how bad we are and want to sack the coach. We cannot sack the players and I have no fear that whoever is interim coach will not do anything different. The time for personell change is later in the year not after round 5. Goodwin alone is not the problem....

    On radio this morning allegedly Mark Bickley stated that he ran into Goodwin pre match and asked about his coaching tenure. Bickley stated that Goodwin told him it would be hard to come back from here. If true then Goody knows he is on thin ice. I also believe that he will do everything humanly possible as head coach to turn it around. Another rumour is that there will be a board meeting tomorrow night sigh discussing the coach. He isn't solely responsible, the assistants and players are not entirely blameless.

    I support my club and will abide with their decisions. I have no doubt they are all trying their level best to get it right and win, it just isn't happening and I have no control over it but I hope Goodwin in the short term can change it up.

    Goodwin has had months to turn things around. He has the opportunity to reward good form in the VFL by providing opportunities to Fullarton. He has had history to inform him playing Spargo unfit does not work. Players look very unhappy playing.

    I support the club as well. Massive thanks to Goodwin for giving me a bucket list moment I will always treasure, but he isn’t our next premiership coach.

    Change is needed.

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    2 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

    It stops a rot. Simple as that. It's a circuit breaker.

    Provides opportunity for change of rac.

    Bickley... whatever...another Adelaide team mate. Fluff stuff really.

    In respect to Simon's dilemma...it's not thin ice... that was yesterday. Today... somehow he's above fresh air.

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    37 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

    Yeah, that's pretty much my take too BDA. There's just so much ranting and rage everywhere. I couldn't take any more than 30 seconds of anything American sports related. I occasionally have a look at one of the many Rangers youtube fan channels but prefer to watch football content from the likes of Stunt Pegg or On The Road.

    What’s the content you’re talking about?

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    5 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

    What’s the content you’re talking about?

    Hey Super, it was just the post game reaction by the guy on the Dee Brief. Adrian Houghton is his name I think. It's somewhere on this thread.

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    2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

    Choco did this with Dusty at Richmond, I had always hoped he would do the same with Clarry.

    It appears, not so much.

    Difference between Martin and Oliver, Martin matured fairly early and worked on his personal matters really hard. By the time Martin had gotten to now Oliver's age he was a mega star with a brownlow next to his name.

    Yet, right now the club still has to babysit Oliver because he's still an immature [censored] who isn't well liked by some of his teammates.

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    1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Difference between Martin and Oliver, Martin matured fairly early and worked on his personal matters really hard. By the time Martin had gotten to now Oliver's age he was a mega star with a brownlow next to his name.

    Yet, right now the club still has to babysit Oliver because he's still an immature [censored] who isn't well liked by some of his teammates.

    Tbh... I don't get the impression... and arguably its only my impression.. that Choco gives a flying f atm

    His player whispering magic has disappeared out the door. The special skills .... well... we have sfa..

    He's on a good wicket eh 😏

    I.e why is he there ???

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    18 minutes ago, Older demon said:

    OK so we are unwatchable, playing poorly and we have no recognisable team plan.

    How will sackin g Goodwinn fix this? The planning and training since last year has been overseen by Goodwin, the assistants and management whom I all hope are on the same page. Will any one of them step up and do it differently? The answer is NO we are just reacting to how bad we are and want to sack the coach. We cannot sack the players and I have no fear that whoever is interim coach will not do anything different. The time for personell change is later in the year not after round 5. Goodwin alone is not the problem....

    On radio this morning allegedly Mark Bickley stated that he ran into Goodwin pre match and asked about his coaching tenure. Bickley stated that Goodwin told him it would be hard to come back from here. If true then Goody knows he is on thin ice. I also believe that he will do everything humanly possible as head coach to turn it around. Another rumour is that there will be a board meeting tomorrow night sigh discussing the coach. He isn't solely responsible, the assistants and players are not entirely blameless.

    I support my club and will abide with their decisions. I have no doubt they are all trying their level best to get it right and win, it just isn't happening and I have no control over it but I hope Goodwin in the short term can change it up.

    I noted elsewhere in this thread why Goodwin lost me after last night.

    I agree this is not the time to change. It would be a knee-jerk reaction and look like optics management. The Board would make better use of their time asking why the FD review implementation has gone off the rails.

    imv it is imperative we get a CEO before acting on the coach. We just can't afford to have our total management chain in caretaker mode.

    I think we should ride the storm until then which hopefully is before the bye. Then the CEO can act on the coach.

    btw, poor form if Bickely (premiership teammate of Goodwin) relayed a private conversation.

    Edit: the rumour about what Bickley said has been refuted in posts below.

    Edited by Lucifers Hero

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    1 minute ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    I noted elsewhere in this thread why Goodwin lost me after last night.

    I agree this is not the time to change. It would be a knee-jerk reaction and look like optics management. The Board would make better use of their time asking why the FD review implementation has gone off the rails.

    imv it is imperative we get a CEO before acting on the coach. We just can't afford to have our total management chain in caretaker mode.

    I think we should ride the storm until then which hopefully is before the bye. Then the CEO can act on the coach.

    btw, poor form if Bickely (premiership teammate of Goodwin) relayed a private conversation.

    Did honestly say that on air? What platform was it on?

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    2 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

    Did honestly say that on air? What platform was it on?

    It was mentioned as 'alleged' in the third para of the post I quoted and I qualified my comment with 'if'.

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    45 minutes ago, Nietaphart said:

    Roos would not have come to the club without the AFL backing. The USA and retirement was his passion at the time.

    We can argue semantics here. Agree to disagree!

    Good idea..

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