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Seems like there are two unusual phases in the draft.

The sheer volume and variety of gun mids at the very start of the draft is impressive, but what has caught my eye is the swarm of key position players starting from late in the first round and continuing into the 30s.

My overall thinking at the moment is to hold onto our first pick to monitor for a slider of interest, but if no specific player we want makes it then we should be seriously looking at the early second round instead.

It'll be a live trading festival for us again, made more complicated by wanting to ensure we can burn our later picks to pay for Yze.

Speaking of whom, he got a respectable write-up on RookieMeCentral the other day but it doesn't help any of us figure out his draft position. Still looks like he will go pretty late.

 

#15 Noah Yze
Defender/Midfielder | 190cm | 12/04/2006

Stats: 23 disposals, 4 tackles, 6 inside 50s

A prospect of intrigue to Melbourne fans as a father-son this year, Yze produced arguably his best game to date. The versatile 190cm prospect started in defence and was then thrown into midfield as a good size matchup for the likes of Josh Smillie and Oliver Greeves. His strength was evident when tackling, while also absorbing contact well and looking quite comfortable in the clinches. Overall, he performed solidly in both roles and held his own against handy opposition.

 

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Phantom draft update: 

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh

2. ***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

3. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh

4. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 
5. Josh Smillie - Eastern

6. Sid Draper - Sth Adel 

7.***Suns match bid - Leonardo Lombard (Academy )
8. Harvey Langford - Dandenong
9. Sam Lalor- GWV

10. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland
11. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo

13. Tom Gross - Oakleigh
14. Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

15. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham 

16. ***Blues match bid. Father son. Ben Camporeale - Glenelg SA

17. Bo Allan - WA
18.***Lions match bid. Sam Marshall - Bris Lions academy

19. Joe Berry - Murray

20. Alix Tauru - Gippsland
21. Harry O'Farrell - Calder

22. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) 

23. Christian Moraes - Eastern 

24. Jonty Faull - GWV

25. **** Ess match bid. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) 

26. Alex Dodson- SA 
27. Jack Whitlock - Murray
28. Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 
29. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong
30. Matt Whitlock- Murray

31. ****Crows match bid. Father son. Tyler Welsh - WWT 

32. Thomas Sims - Northern 
33. Jesse Dattoli - Northern

34. Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA

35. Lachie Jacques - Geelong
36. Hamish Davis - Claremont WA

37. *** Port match bid. NGA. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel
38. Zak Johnson- Northern

39. Kade Herbert - SA
40. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth

41. Josh Murphy - Murray

42. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie 

43.****Sydney match bid  Joel Cochran (academy) 

44. ***Blues match bid.  Father son. Luke Camporeale - Glenelg SA
45. Angus Clarke - Glenelg
46. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo
47. Damon Hollow - Calder
48. Jack Ough - GWV 
49. Noah Mraz - Dandenong

50. Lucas McInerney - Northern

51. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 

52. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 
53. Sam Davidson - RICHMOND VFL 
54. Jaxon Artemis- WA

55.*** Port Adelaide match bid. Father son. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel 

56. Nash King - Calder 
57. Malakai Champion - Subiaco
58. Cody Anderson - Eastern

59. Jasper Alger -Oakleigh

60. Harry Charlson - GWV

61. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh
62. Keighton Matofai-Forbes - Western
63. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie
64. Luke Urquhart WA

65. Ned Bowman - Norwood SA

66. Cody Angove -WA

67. Bailey McKenzie - Sandringham 

68. James Barrat - Bendigo 

69. Riley Bice - Werribee VFL

70. Josh Dolan - Sandringham 

of course Noah Yze - Dees (Cat A rookie - father son) and Ricky Mentha - Dees (rookie Cat B, NGA) 

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2024 draft rankings update …

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh

2. ***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

3. Harvey Langford- Dandenong

4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel

5. Sam Lalor- GWV

6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh

7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 

8. ***Suns match bid - Leonardo Lombard (Academy )

9. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland

10. Josh Smillie - Eastern
11. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo

13. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham
14. Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

15.  Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) 

16. ***Blues match bid. Ben Camporeale - Glenelg SA ( father son)

17. Bo Allan - WA
18.***Lions match bid. Sam Marshall - Bris Lions academy

19. Joe Berry - Murray

20. Alix Tauru - Gippsland
21. Tom Gross - Oakleigh

22. Alex Dodson- SA 

23. Harry O'Farrell - Calder

24. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong

25. **** Ess match bid. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) 

26. Hamish Davis - Claremont WA

27. Jesse Dattoli - Northern
28. Jack Whitlock - Murray
29. Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 
30. Christian Moraes - Eastern 

31. ****Crows match bid. Father son. Tyler Welsh - WWT 

32. Thomas Sims - Northern 
33. Jonty Faull - GWV

34. Matt Whitlock- Murray

35. Lachie Jacques - Geelong
36.Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA

37. Noah Mraz - Dandenong
38. Angus Clarke - Glenelg
39. Josh Murphy - Murray
40. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth

41. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie 

42. James Barrat - Bendigo

43.****Sydney match bid  Joel Cochran (academy) 
44.  Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo
45.  Riley Bice - Werribee VFL

46. ***Blues match bid.  Father son. Luke Camporeale - Glenelg SA
47. Kade Herbert - SA
48. Jack Ough - GWV

49. *** Port match bid. NGA. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel

50. Lucas McInerney - Northern

51. Clancy Dennis - WA

52. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 
53. Sam Davidson - RICHMOND VFL 
54. Jaxon Artemis- WA

55.*** Port Adelaide match bid. Father son. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel 

56. Nash King - Calder 
57. Malakai Champion - Subiaco
58. Cody Anderson - Eastern

59. Jasper Alger -Oakleigh

60. Lucca Grego - Western

61. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh
62. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 
63. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie
64. Luke Kennedy - Sandringham 

65. Ned Bowman - Norwood SA

66. Cody Angove -WA

67. Bailey McKenzie - Sandringham 

68. Zak Johnson- Northern  

69.Keighton Matofai-Forbes - Western

70. Josh Dolan - Sandringham 

71. Oliver Warburton - Murray

72.Harry Charlson - GWV

73.  Luke Urquhart - WA 

74. Damon Hollow - Calder

THEN of course there is Noah Yze - Dees (Cat A rookie - father son) and Ricky Mentha - Dees (rookie Cat B, NGA) 

This is a deep draft with plenty of talent , youngsters already showing AFL prepared skills.  Though any youngster post 50 is more a rookie chance 

The only “Phantom” with real credence is Cal Twomey’s late mail in the weeks close to the draft, ideally a week or so pre draft. This is because his media role gives him access to club recruiters and more notably player agents privy to the levels of interest shown by clubs in specific players.

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6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

 

2024 draft rankings update …

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh

2. ***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

3. Harvey Langford- Dandenong

4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel

5. Sam Lalor- GWV

6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh

7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 

8. ***Suns match bid - Leonardo Lombard (Academy )

9. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland

10. Josh Smillie - Eastern
11. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo

13. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham
14. Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

15.  Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) 

16. ***Blues match bid. Ben Camporeale - Glenelg SA ( father son)

17. Bo Allan - WA
18.***Lions match bid. Sam Marshall - Bris Lions academy

19. Joe Berry - Murray

20. Alix Tauru - Gippsland
21. Tom Gross - Oakleigh

22. Alex Dodson- SA 

23. Harry O'Farrell - Calder

24. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong

25. **** Ess match bid. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) 

26. Hamish Davis - Claremont WA

27. Jesse Dattoli - Northern
28. Jack Whitlock - Murray
29. Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 
30. Christian Moraes - Eastern 

31. ****Crows match bid. Father son. Tyler Welsh - WWT 

32. Thomas Sims - Northern 
33. Jonty Faull - GWV

34. Matt Whitlock- Murray

35. Lachie Jacques - Geelong
36.Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA

37. Noah Mraz - Dandenong
38. Angus Clarke - Glenelg
39. Josh Murphy - Murray
40. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth

41. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie 

42. James Barrat - Bendigo

43.****Sydney match bid  Joel Cochran (academy) 
44.  Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo
45.  Riley Bice - Werribee VFL

46. ***Blues match bid.  Father son. Luke Camporeale - Glenelg SA
47. Kade Herbert - SA
48. Jack Ough - GWV

49. *** Port match bid. NGA. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel

50. Lucas McInerney - Northern

51. Clancy Dennis - WA

52. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 
53. Sam Davidson - RICHMOND VFL 
54. Jaxon Artemis- WA

55.*** Port Adelaide match bid. Father son. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel 

56. Nash King - Calder 
57. Malakai Champion - Subiaco
58. Cody Anderson - Eastern

59. Jasper Alger -Oakleigh

60. Lucca Grego - Western

61. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh
62. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 
63. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie
64. Luke Kennedy - Sandringham 

65. Ned Bowman - Norwood SA

66. Cody Angove -WA

67. Bailey McKenzie - Sandringham 

68. Zak Johnson- Northern  

69.Keighton Matofai-Forbes - Western

70. Josh Dolan - Sandringham 

71. Oliver Warburton - Murray

72.Harry Charlson - GWV

73.  Luke Urquhart - WA 

74. Damon Hollow - Calder

THEN of course there is Noah Yze - Dees (Cat A rookie - father son) and Ricky Mentha - Dees (rookie Cat B, NGA) 

This is a deep draft with plenty of talent , youngsters already showing AFL prepared skills.  Though any youngster post 50 is more a rookie chance 

The only “Phantom” with real credence is Cal Twomey’s late mail in the weeks close to the draft, ideally a week or so pre draft. This is because his media role gives him access to club recruiters and more notably player agents privy to the levels of interest shown by clubs in specific players.

Prefer Riak Andrew over Yze.

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1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

 

2024 draft rankings update …

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh

2. ***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

3. Harvey Langford- Dandenong

4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel

5. Sam Lalor- GWV

6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh

7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 

8. ***Suns match bid - Leonardo Lombard (Academy )

9. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland

10. Josh Smillie - Eastern
11. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo

13. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham
14. Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

15.  Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) 

16. ***Blues match bid. Ben Camporeale - Glenelg SA ( father son)

17. Bo Allan - WA
18.***Lions match bid. Sam Marshall - Bris Lions academy

19. Joe Berry - Murray

20. Alix Tauru - Gippsland
21. Tom Gross - Oakleigh

22. Alex Dodson- SA 

23. Harry O'Farrell - Calder

24. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong

25. **** Ess match bid. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) 

26. Hamish Davis - Claremont WA

27. Jesse Dattoli - Northern
28. Jack Whitlock - Murray
29. Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 
30. Christian Moraes - Eastern 

31. ****Crows match bid. Father son. Tyler Welsh - WWT 

32. Thomas Sims - Northern 
33. Jonty Faull - GWV

34. Matt Whitlock- Murray

35. Lachie Jacques - Geelong
36.Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA

37. Noah Mraz - Dandenong
38. Angus Clarke - Glenelg
39. Josh Murphy - Murray
40. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth

41. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie 

42. James Barrat - Bendigo

43.****Sydney match bid  Joel Cochran (academy) 
44.  Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo
45.  Riley Bice - Werribee VFL

46. ***Blues match bid.  Father son. Luke Camporeale - Glenelg SA
47. Kade Herbert - SA
48. Jack Ough - GWV

49. *** Port match bid. NGA. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel

50. Lucas McInerney - Northern

51. Clancy Dennis - WA

52. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 
53. Sam Davidson - RICHMOND VFL 
54. Jaxon Artemis- WA

55.*** Port Adelaide match bid. Father son. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel 

56. Nash King - Calder 
57. Malakai Champion - Subiaco
58. Cody Anderson - Eastern

59. Jasper Alger -Oakleigh

60. Lucca Grego - Western

61. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh
62. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 
63. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie
64. Luke Kennedy - Sandringham 

65. Ned Bowman - Norwood SA

66. Cody Angove -WA

67. Bailey McKenzie - Sandringham 

68. Zak Johnson- Northern  

69.Keighton Matofai-Forbes - Western

70. Josh Dolan - Sandringham 

71. Oliver Warburton - Murray

72.Harry Charlson - GWV

73.  Luke Urquhart - WA 

74. Damon Hollow - Calder

THEN of course there is Noah Yze - Dees (Cat A rookie - father son) and Ricky Mentha - Dees (rookie Cat B, NGA) 

This is a deep draft with plenty of talent , youngsters already showing AFL prepared skills.  Though any youngster post 50 is more a rookie chance 

The only “Phantom” with real credence is Cal Twomey’s late mail in the weeks close to the draft, ideally a week or so pre draft. This is because his media role gives him access to club recruiters and more notably player agents privy to the levels of interest shown by clubs in specific players.

Thanks, great effort, can we take all of Yze, Mentha and Andrew?

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17 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

This is a deep draft with plenty of talent

How often does a consensus draft designation - "deep", "shallow", "even", "lopsided" - match the reality. For example, was 2019 considered deep or generally good before hand? In now looks like an absolute beauty. 

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4 minutes ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

How often does a consensus draft designation - "deep", "shallow", "even", "lopsided" - match the reality. For example, was 2019 considered deep or generally good before hand? In now looks like an absolute beauty. 

It very difficult to describe a draft in a single word because it's made up of a number of people, each of whom has different attributes and are rated differently by different clubs.

I think you'll get a pretty good idea from looking at how easy/hard it is for clubs to trade into certain areas of the draft, in terms of how many picks change hands and how much you need to spend to get in there. For example, last year you saw teams fighting to get Gold Coast's pick 11 (we ended up paying 14, 27 and 35) whilst Adelaide got pick 14 for only pick 23 and 26. That's because, as Taylor said afterwards, there was a big drop off in quality after the first 12 players in the draft, in the eyes of most clubs. In 2019 a lot of clubs were willing to move draft picks around in that late 1st round-early 2nd round range, which probably indicates that there was still a bit of quality around and teams were searching for specific players they were interested in for a pretty even draft (after the first 2 or 3). There were some really excellent players in that lot but some proper misses as well.

Do you measure the strength of a draft on the quality of pick 1, 5, 10, 20, 30, 70? 

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42 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

It very difficult to describe a draft in a single word because it's made up of a number of people, each of whom has different attributes and are rated differently by different clubs.

I think you'll get a pretty good idea from looking at how easy/hard it is for clubs to trade into certain areas of the draft, in terms of how many picks change hands and how much you need to spend to get in there. For example, last year you saw teams fighting to get Gold Coast's pick 11 (we ended up paying 14, 27 and 35) whilst Adelaide got pick 14 for only pick 23 and 26. That's because, as Taylor said afterwards, there was a big drop off in quality after the first 12 players in the draft, in the eyes of most clubs. In 2019 a lot of clubs were willing to move draft picks around in that late 1st round-early 2nd round range, which probably indicates that there was still a bit of quality around and teams were searching for specific players they were interested in for a pretty even draft (after the first 2 or 3). There were some really excellent players in that lot but some proper misses as well.

Do you measure the strength of a draft on the quality of pick 1, 5, 10, 20, 30, 70? 

This is partially correct, but the recruiters regularly get it wrong. (Darcy Wilson was pick 18 last year.) It very hard to pick AFL players in under 18s.

Also, in any population distribution, it is the tails where there is big variance in ability. Some drafts have Hodge, Ball and Judd and some have some have Whitfield, O'Rourke and Plowman. But the difference after the pointy end the draft tends to be less between draft classes.

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18 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

2024 draft rankings update …

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh

2. ***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

3. Harvey Langford- Dandenong

4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel

5. Sam Lalor- GWV

6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh

7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 

8. ***Suns match bid - Leonardo Lombard (Academy )

9. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland

10. Josh Smillie - Eastern
11. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo

13. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham

If Armstrong and Smillie are available from 10-13, I hope we have a plan to get a second early pick, likely targeting one of the picks Richmond will get from Freo.

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1 hour ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

How often does a consensus draft designation - "deep", "shallow", "even", "lopsided" - match the reality. For example, was 2019 considered deep or generally good before hand? In now looks like an absolute beauty. 

2018 was hyped as a super draft with heaps of talent, particuarly the top 8: Walsh, Lukosius, Rankine, M.King, Rozee, B.King, Smith, Blakey (slipped to 10).

This draft also had Butters, Bobby Hill, Quanyor, Jordan Clark - and a plethora of players establishing a good career for themselves. 

So I think the recruiters were right this year at least

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1 hour ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

How often does a consensus draft designation - "deep", "shallow", "even", "lopsided" - match the reality. For example, was 2019 considered deep or generally good before hand? In now looks like an absolute beauty. 

Yes sometimes it takes the 4th or 5th year after the draft to actually rate the elite top picks or the depth of a draft.  This year from attending a handful of Coates League games live, others online and watching the online videos of the championship matches, I think this years group has a deep of talent.  There is an elite group of mids, but also down in the 40s and 50+ others are definitely worth an AFL opportunity imv. 

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If JT and his team thinks draft is a beauty then we may try to trade our future 1st back in. We will be looking at bringing White and Ah-Mu in next year so they will be guessing what sort of picks we need in 2025.

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Hamish Davis moving up the board, not mentioned in earlier phantom drafts, will continue to climb the way he’s going and will be top 20 by the end of September and likely to be first West Aussie drafted

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1 hour ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

2018 was hyped as a super draft with heaps of talent, particuarly the top 8: Walsh, Lukosius, Rankine, M.King, Rozee, B.King, Smith, Blakey (slipped to 10).

This draft also had Butters, Bobby Hill, Quanyor, Jordan Clark - and a plethora of players establishing a good career for themselves. 

So I think the recruiters were right this year at least

even then, nearly half of those players will be onto their second clubs by the start of 2025, and at least several of those - lukosius, rankine, bobby hill - arguably didn't amount to the players they were expected to be at their first club

interestingly only five premiership players - atkins from the cats, who was picked in the rookie draft, jordon and sparrow from us, and then quaynor plus norm smith medallist bobby hill, who i think the filth picked up for a pick in the 40s from gw$

 

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18 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Hamish Davis moving up the board, not mentioned in earlier phantom drafts, will continue to climb the way he’s going and will be top 20 by the end of September and likely to be first West Aussie drafted

Ahead of Bo Allen?

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2 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Hamish Davis moving up the board, not mentioned in earlier phantom drafts, will continue to climb the way he’s going and will be top 20 by the end of September and likely to be first West Aussie drafted

Yes I think he has pushed up to the mid 20s range now.  If the Dees get that pick 25 off the crows (ANB + MFC #51 -> Crows #25) then the following players are probably in the frame… Hamish Davis, Jesse Dattoli,  Harrison Oliver & Christian Moraes. 

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3 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

even then, nearly half of those players will be onto their second clubs by the start of 2025, and at least several of those - lukosius, rankine, bobby hill - arguably didn't amount to the players they were expected to be at their first club

interestingly only five premiership players - atkins from the cats, who was picked in the rookie draft, jordon and sparrow from us, and then quaynor plus norm smith medallist bobby hill, who i think the filth picked up for a pick in the 40s from gw$

 

Moving clubs irrelevant imo, these guys have just turned 24 this year - so just entering prime.

Considering they could play for another 10 years if good enough, a lot more will end careers with a premiership medal. 

Of the top 13, 12 are on track to play 200+ games - Thomas, the anomaly, had nothing to do with football ability. 

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8 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Ahead of Bo Allen?

Yes I think Bo Allen is very impressive and I would rank 16-17. He has good size as a mid and skills.  
Davis at 25-29.  He’s a good runner and wins the footy.  It’s his kicking that might be a knock on him just imv.  

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@Whispering_Jack  thanks WJ  …thought I’d switch this also in this thread 

Smythe on bigfooty has put out his Top 40 picks -

    1    Sid Draper 
    2    Finn O'Sullivan
    3    Jagga Smith
    4    Levi Ashcroft 
    5    Sam Lalor
    6    Luke Trainor
    7    Harvey Langford
    8    Josh Smillie
    9    Murphy Reid
    10    Tobie Travaglia
    11    Joe Berry
    12    Leo Lombard
    13    Jobe Shanahan
    14    Xavier Lindsay
    15    Taj Hotton
    16    Bo Allan 
    17    Alex Dodson
    18    Isaac Kako
    19    Jack Whitlock
    20    Alix Tauru
    21    Harry Armstrong 
    22    Sam Marshall
    23    Harry Oliver
    24    Tom Gross
    25    Matt Whitlock
    26    Hamish David
    27    Lachie Jaques
    28    Jess Dattoli
    29    Cooper Hynes
    30    Harry O'Farrell
    31    Christian Moraes
    32    Ben Camporeale
    33    Angus Clarke 
    34    Kayle Gerreyn
    35    Noah Mraz
    36    Jonty Faull
    37    Tom Simms
    38    Adrian Cole
    39    James Barrat
    40    Tyler Welsh

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On 14/09/2024 at 09:01, spirit of norm smith said:

@Whispering_Jack  thanks WJ  …thought I’d switch this also in this thread 

Smythe on bigfooty has put out his Top 40 picks -

    1    Sid Draper 
    2    Finn O'Sullivan
    3    Jagga Smith
    4    Levi Ashcroft 
    5    Sam Lalor
    6    Luke Trainor
    7    Harvey Langford
    8    Josh Smillie
    9    Murphy Reid
    10    Tobie Travaglia
    11    Joe Berry
    12    Leo Lombard
    13    Jobe Shanahan
    14    Xavier Lindsay
    15    Taj Hotton
    16    Bo Allan 
    17    Alex Dodson
    18    Isaac Kako
    19    Jack Whitlock
    20    Alix Tauru
    21    Harry Armstrong 
    22    Sam Marshall
    23    Harry Oliver
    24    Tom Gross
    25    Matt Whitlock
    26    Hamish David
    27    Lachie Jaques
    28    Jess Dattoli
    29    Cooper Hynes
    30    Harry O'Farrell
    31    Christian Moraes
    32    Ben Camporeale
    33    Angus Clarke 
    34    Kayle Gerreyn
    35    Noah Mraz
    36    Jonty Faull
    37    Tom Simms
    38    Adrian Cole
    39    James Barrat
    40    Tyler Welsh

His top 40 but not a phantom draft. I doubt that Richmond will pick Draper ahead of the bevy of midfielders at the top of this draft, nor will North Melbourne. I reckon he’ll be picked by Adelaide. 

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    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

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    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

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    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

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    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

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    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

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    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

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    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

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    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

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    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

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