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Seems like there are two unusual phases in the draft.

The sheer volume and variety of gun mids at the very start of the draft is impressive, but what has caught my eye is the swarm of key position players starting from late in the first round and continuing into the 30s.

My overall thinking at the moment is to hold onto our first pick to monitor for a slider of interest, but if no specific player we want makes it then we should be seriously looking at the early second round instead.

It'll be a live trading festival for us again, made more complicated by wanting to ensure we can burn our later picks to pay for Yze.

Speaking of whom, he got a respectable write-up on RookieMeCentral the other day but it doesn't help any of us figure out his draft position. Still looks like he will go pretty late.

 

#15 Noah Yze
Defender/Midfielder | 190cm | 12/04/2006

Stats: 23 disposals, 4 tackles, 6 inside 50s

A prospect of intrigue to Melbourne fans as a father-son this year, Yze produced arguably his best game to date. The versatile 190cm prospect started in defence and was then thrown into midfield as a good size matchup for the likes of Josh Smillie and Oliver Greeves. His strength was evident when tackling, while also absorbing contact well and looking quite comfortable in the clinches. Overall, he performed solidly in both roles and held his own against handy opposition.

 

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Phantom draft update: 

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh

2. ***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

3. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh

4. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 
5. Josh Smillie - Eastern

6. Sid Draper - Sth Adel 

7.***Suns match bid - Leonardo Lombard (Academy )
8. Harvey Langford - Dandenong
9. Sam Lalor- GWV

10. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland
11. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo

13. Tom Gross - Oakleigh
14. Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

15. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham 

16. ***Blues match bid. Father son. Ben Camporeale - Glenelg SA

17. Bo Allan - WA
18.***Lions match bid. Sam Marshall - Bris Lions academy

19. Joe Berry - Murray

20. Alix Tauru - Gippsland
21. Harry O'Farrell - Calder

22. Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) 

23. Christian Moraes - Eastern 

24. Jonty Faull - GWV

25. **** Ess match bid. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) 

26. Alex Dodson- SA 
27. Jack Whitlock - Murray
28. Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 
29. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong
30. Matt Whitlock- Murray

31. ****Crows match bid. Father son. Tyler Welsh - WWT 

32. Thomas Sims - Northern 
33. Jesse Dattoli - Northern

34. Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA

35. Lachie Jacques - Geelong
36. Hamish Davis - Claremont WA

37. *** Port match bid. NGA. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel
38. Zak Johnson- Northern

39. Kade Herbert - SA
40. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth

41. Josh Murphy - Murray

42. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie 

43.****Sydney match bid  Joel Cochran (academy) 

44. ***Blues match bid.  Father son. Luke Camporeale - Glenelg SA
45. Angus Clarke - Glenelg
46. Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo
47. Damon Hollow - Calder
48. Jack Ough - GWV 
49. Noah Mraz - Dandenong

50. Lucas McInerney - Northern

51. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 

52. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 
53. Sam Davidson - RICHMOND VFL 
54. Jaxon Artemis- WA

55.*** Port Adelaide match bid. Father son. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel 

56. Nash King - Calder 
57. Malakai Champion - Subiaco
58. Cody Anderson - Eastern

59. Jasper Alger -Oakleigh

60. Harry Charlson - GWV

61. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh
62. Keighton Matofai-Forbes - Western
63. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie
64. Luke Urquhart WA

65. Ned Bowman - Norwood SA

66. Cody Angove -WA

67. Bailey McKenzie - Sandringham 

68. James Barrat - Bendigo 

69. Riley Bice - Werribee VFL

70. Josh Dolan - Sandringham 

of course Noah Yze - Dees (Cat A rookie - father son) and Ricky Mentha - Dees (rookie Cat B, NGA) 

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2024 draft rankings update …

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh

2. ***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

3. Harvey Langford- Dandenong

4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel

5. Sam Lalor- GWV

6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh

7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 

8. ***Suns match bid - Leonardo Lombard (Academy )

9. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland

10. Josh Smillie - Eastern
11. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo

13. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham
14. Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

15.  Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) 

16. ***Blues match bid. Ben Camporeale - Glenelg SA ( father son)

17. Bo Allan - WA
18.***Lions match bid. Sam Marshall - Bris Lions academy

19. Joe Berry - Murray

20. Alix Tauru - Gippsland
21. Tom Gross - Oakleigh

22. Alex Dodson- SA 

23. Harry O'Farrell - Calder

24. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong

25. **** Ess match bid. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) 

26. Hamish Davis - Claremont WA

27. Jesse Dattoli - Northern
28. Jack Whitlock - Murray
29. Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 
30. Christian Moraes - Eastern 

31. ****Crows match bid. Father son. Tyler Welsh - WWT 

32. Thomas Sims - Northern 
33. Jonty Faull - GWV

34. Matt Whitlock- Murray

35. Lachie Jacques - Geelong
36.Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA

37. Noah Mraz - Dandenong
38. Angus Clarke - Glenelg
39. Josh Murphy - Murray
40. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth

41. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie 

42. James Barrat - Bendigo

43.****Sydney match bid  Joel Cochran (academy) 
44.  Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo
45.  Riley Bice - Werribee VFL

46. ***Blues match bid.  Father son. Luke Camporeale - Glenelg SA
47. Kade Herbert - SA
48. Jack Ough - GWV

49. *** Port match bid. NGA. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel

50. Lucas McInerney - Northern

51. Clancy Dennis - WA

52. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 
53. Sam Davidson - RICHMOND VFL 
54. Jaxon Artemis- WA

55.*** Port Adelaide match bid. Father son. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel 

56. Nash King - Calder 
57. Malakai Champion - Subiaco
58. Cody Anderson - Eastern

59. Jasper Alger -Oakleigh

60. Lucca Grego - Western

61. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh
62. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 
63. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie
64. Luke Kennedy - Sandringham 

65. Ned Bowman - Norwood SA

66. Cody Angove -WA

67. Bailey McKenzie - Sandringham 

68. Zak Johnson- Northern  

69.Keighton Matofai-Forbes - Western

70. Josh Dolan - Sandringham 

71. Oliver Warburton - Murray

72.Harry Charlson - GWV

73.  Luke Urquhart - WA 

74. Damon Hollow - Calder

THEN of course there is Noah Yze - Dees (Cat A rookie - father son) and Ricky Mentha - Dees (rookie Cat B, NGA) 

This is a deep draft with plenty of talent , youngsters already showing AFL prepared skills.  Though any youngster post 50 is more a rookie chance 

The only “Phantom” with real credence is Cal Twomey’s late mail in the weeks close to the draft, ideally a week or so pre draft. This is because his media role gives him access to club recruiters and more notably player agents privy to the levels of interest shown by clubs in specific players.

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6 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

 

2024 draft rankings update …

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh

2. ***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

3. Harvey Langford- Dandenong

4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel

5. Sam Lalor- GWV

6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh

7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 

8. ***Suns match bid - Leonardo Lombard (Academy )

9. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland

10. Josh Smillie - Eastern
11. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo

13. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham
14. Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

15.  Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) 

16. ***Blues match bid. Ben Camporeale - Glenelg SA ( father son)

17. Bo Allan - WA
18.***Lions match bid. Sam Marshall - Bris Lions academy

19. Joe Berry - Murray

20. Alix Tauru - Gippsland
21. Tom Gross - Oakleigh

22. Alex Dodson- SA 

23. Harry O'Farrell - Calder

24. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong

25. **** Ess match bid. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) 

26. Hamish Davis - Claremont WA

27. Jesse Dattoli - Northern
28. Jack Whitlock - Murray
29. Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 
30. Christian Moraes - Eastern 

31. ****Crows match bid. Father son. Tyler Welsh - WWT 

32. Thomas Sims - Northern 
33. Jonty Faull - GWV

34. Matt Whitlock- Murray

35. Lachie Jacques - Geelong
36.Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA

37. Noah Mraz - Dandenong
38. Angus Clarke - Glenelg
39. Josh Murphy - Murray
40. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth

41. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie 

42. James Barrat - Bendigo

43.****Sydney match bid  Joel Cochran (academy) 
44.  Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo
45.  Riley Bice - Werribee VFL

46. ***Blues match bid.  Father son. Luke Camporeale - Glenelg SA
47. Kade Herbert - SA
48. Jack Ough - GWV

49. *** Port match bid. NGA. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel

50. Lucas McInerney - Northern

51. Clancy Dennis - WA

52. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 
53. Sam Davidson - RICHMOND VFL 
54. Jaxon Artemis- WA

55.*** Port Adelaide match bid. Father son. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel 

56. Nash King - Calder 
57. Malakai Champion - Subiaco
58. Cody Anderson - Eastern

59. Jasper Alger -Oakleigh

60. Lucca Grego - Western

61. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh
62. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 
63. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie
64. Luke Kennedy - Sandringham 

65. Ned Bowman - Norwood SA

66. Cody Angove -WA

67. Bailey McKenzie - Sandringham 

68. Zak Johnson- Northern  

69.Keighton Matofai-Forbes - Western

70. Josh Dolan - Sandringham 

71. Oliver Warburton - Murray

72.Harry Charlson - GWV

73.  Luke Urquhart - WA 

74. Damon Hollow - Calder

THEN of course there is Noah Yze - Dees (Cat A rookie - father son) and Ricky Mentha - Dees (rookie Cat B, NGA) 

This is a deep draft with plenty of talent , youngsters already showing AFL prepared skills.  Though any youngster post 50 is more a rookie chance 

The only “Phantom” with real credence is Cal Twomey’s late mail in the weeks close to the draft, ideally a week or so pre draft. This is because his media role gives him access to club recruiters and more notably player agents privy to the levels of interest shown by clubs in specific players.

Prefer Riak Andrew over Yze.

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1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

 

2024 draft rankings update …

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh

2. ***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

3. Harvey Langford- Dandenong

4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel

5. Sam Lalor- GWV

6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh

7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 

8. ***Suns match bid - Leonardo Lombard (Academy )

9. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland

10. Josh Smillie - Eastern
11. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo

13. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham
14. Taj Hotton - Sandringham 

15.  Jobe Shanahan - Bendigo (NSW) 

16. ***Blues match bid. Ben Camporeale - Glenelg SA ( father son)

17. Bo Allan - WA
18.***Lions match bid. Sam Marshall - Bris Lions academy

19. Joe Berry - Murray

20. Alix Tauru - Gippsland
21. Tom Gross - Oakleigh

22. Alex Dodson- SA 

23. Harry O'Farrell - Calder

24. Cooper Hynes - Dandenong

25. **** Ess match bid. Isaac Kako - Calder (Ess NGA) 

26. Hamish Davis - Claremont WA

27. Jesse Dattoli - Northern
28. Jack Whitlock - Murray
29. Harrison Oliver - Sandringham 
30. Christian Moraes - Eastern 

31. ****Crows match bid. Father son. Tyler Welsh - WWT 

32. Thomas Sims - Northern 
33. Jonty Faull - GWV

34. Matt Whitlock- Murray

35. Lachie Jacques - Geelong
36.Charlie Nicholls - Central District SA

37. Noah Mraz - Dandenong
38. Angus Clarke - Glenelg
39. Josh Murphy - Murray
40. Kayle Gerryn - West Perth

41. Nathaniel Sulzberger - Sandringham/  Tassie 

42. James Barrat - Bendigo

43.****Sydney match bid  Joel Cochran (academy) 
44.  Archer Day-Wicks - Bendigo
45.  Riley Bice - Werribee VFL

46. ***Blues match bid.  Father son. Luke Camporeale - Glenelg SA
47. Kade Herbert - SA
48. Jack Ough - GWV

49. *** Port match bid. NGA. Benny Barrett - Sth Adel

50. Lucas McInerney - Northern

51. Clancy Dennis - WA

52. Phoenix Hargrave - Sth Adel 
53. Sam Davidson - RICHMOND VFL 
54. Jaxon Artemis- WA

55.*** Port Adelaide match bid. Father son. Louis Montgomery - Nth Adel 

56. Nash King - Calder 
57. Malakai Champion - Subiaco
58. Cody Anderson - Eastern

59. Jasper Alger -Oakleigh

60. Lucca Grego - Western

61. Zane Cochrane - Oakleigh
62. Patrick Retschko - Oakleigh 
63. Oliver Depaoli-Kubank - Tassie
64. Luke Kennedy - Sandringham 

65. Ned Bowman - Norwood SA

66. Cody Angove -WA

67. Bailey McKenzie - Sandringham 

68. Zak Johnson- Northern  

69.Keighton Matofai-Forbes - Western

70. Josh Dolan - Sandringham 

71. Oliver Warburton - Murray

72.Harry Charlson - GWV

73.  Luke Urquhart - WA 

74. Damon Hollow - Calder

THEN of course there is Noah Yze - Dees (Cat A rookie - father son) and Ricky Mentha - Dees (rookie Cat B, NGA) 

This is a deep draft with plenty of talent , youngsters already showing AFL prepared skills.  Though any youngster post 50 is more a rookie chance 

The only “Phantom” with real credence is Cal Twomey’s late mail in the weeks close to the draft, ideally a week or so pre draft. This is because his media role gives him access to club recruiters and more notably player agents privy to the levels of interest shown by clubs in specific players.

Thanks, great effort, can we take all of Yze, Mentha and Andrew?

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17 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

This is a deep draft with plenty of talent

How often does a consensus draft designation - "deep", "shallow", "even", "lopsided" - match the reality. For example, was 2019 considered deep or generally good before hand? In now looks like an absolute beauty. 

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4 minutes ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

How often does a consensus draft designation - "deep", "shallow", "even", "lopsided" - match the reality. For example, was 2019 considered deep or generally good before hand? In now looks like an absolute beauty. 

It very difficult to describe a draft in a single word because it's made up of a number of people, each of whom has different attributes and are rated differently by different clubs.

I think you'll get a pretty good idea from looking at how easy/hard it is for clubs to trade into certain areas of the draft, in terms of how many picks change hands and how much you need to spend to get in there. For example, last year you saw teams fighting to get Gold Coast's pick 11 (we ended up paying 14, 27 and 35) whilst Adelaide got pick 14 for only pick 23 and 26. That's because, as Taylor said afterwards, there was a big drop off in quality after the first 12 players in the draft, in the eyes of most clubs. In 2019 a lot of clubs were willing to move draft picks around in that late 1st round-early 2nd round range, which probably indicates that there was still a bit of quality around and teams were searching for specific players they were interested in for a pretty even draft (after the first 2 or 3). There were some really excellent players in that lot but some proper misses as well.

Do you measure the strength of a draft on the quality of pick 1, 5, 10, 20, 30, 70? 

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42 minutes ago, Axis of Bob said:

It very difficult to describe a draft in a single word because it's made up of a number of people, each of whom has different attributes and are rated differently by different clubs.

I think you'll get a pretty good idea from looking at how easy/hard it is for clubs to trade into certain areas of the draft, in terms of how many picks change hands and how much you need to spend to get in there. For example, last year you saw teams fighting to get Gold Coast's pick 11 (we ended up paying 14, 27 and 35) whilst Adelaide got pick 14 for only pick 23 and 26. That's because, as Taylor said afterwards, there was a big drop off in quality after the first 12 players in the draft, in the eyes of most clubs. In 2019 a lot of clubs were willing to move draft picks around in that late 1st round-early 2nd round range, which probably indicates that there was still a bit of quality around and teams were searching for specific players they were interested in for a pretty even draft (after the first 2 or 3). There were some really excellent players in that lot but some proper misses as well.

Do you measure the strength of a draft on the quality of pick 1, 5, 10, 20, 30, 70? 

This is partially correct, but the recruiters regularly get it wrong. (Darcy Wilson was pick 18 last year.) It very hard to pick AFL players in under 18s.

Also, in any population distribution, it is the tails where there is big variance in ability. Some drafts have Hodge, Ball and Judd and some have some have Whitfield, O'Rourke and Plowman. But the difference after the pointy end the draft tends to be less between draft classes.

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18 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

2024 draft rankings update …

1 Finn O'Sullivan - Oakleigh

2. ***Brisbane match bid. Levi Ashcroft Father son.

3. Harvey Langford- Dandenong

4. Sid Draper - Sth Adel

5. Sam Lalor- GWV

6. Jagga Smith - Oakleigh

7. Luke Trainor - Sandringham 

8. ***Suns match bid - Leonardo Lombard (Academy )

9. Xavier Lindsay - Gippsland

10. Josh Smillie - Eastern
11. Murphy Reid - Sandringham
12. Tobie Travaglia - Bendigo

13. Harry Armstrong - Sandringham

If Armstrong and Smillie are available from 10-13, I hope we have a plan to get a second early pick, likely targeting one of the picks Richmond will get from Freo.

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1 hour ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

How often does a consensus draft designation - "deep", "shallow", "even", "lopsided" - match the reality. For example, was 2019 considered deep or generally good before hand? In now looks like an absolute beauty. 

2018 was hyped as a super draft with heaps of talent, particuarly the top 8: Walsh, Lukosius, Rankine, M.King, Rozee, B.King, Smith, Blakey (slipped to 10).

This draft also had Butters, Bobby Hill, Quanyor, Jordan Clark - and a plethora of players establishing a good career for themselves. 

So I think the recruiters were right this year at least

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1 hour ago, The Taciturn Demon said:

How often does a consensus draft designation - "deep", "shallow", "even", "lopsided" - match the reality. For example, was 2019 considered deep or generally good before hand? In now looks like an absolute beauty. 

Yes sometimes it takes the 4th or 5th year after the draft to actually rate the elite top picks or the depth of a draft.  This year from attending a handful of Coates League games live, others online and watching the online videos of the championship matches, I think this years group has a deep of talent.  There is an elite group of mids, but also down in the 40s and 50+ others are definitely worth an AFL opportunity imv. 

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If JT and his team thinks draft is a beauty then we may try to trade our future 1st back in. We will be looking at bringing White and Ah-Mu in next year so they will be guessing what sort of picks we need in 2025.

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Hamish Davis moving up the board, not mentioned in earlier phantom drafts, will continue to climb the way he’s going and will be top 20 by the end of September and likely to be first West Aussie drafted

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1 hour ago, Lord Neville X Flash said:

2018 was hyped as a super draft with heaps of talent, particuarly the top 8: Walsh, Lukosius, Rankine, M.King, Rozee, B.King, Smith, Blakey (slipped to 10).

This draft also had Butters, Bobby Hill, Quanyor, Jordan Clark - and a plethora of players establishing a good career for themselves. 

So I think the recruiters were right this year at least

even then, nearly half of those players will be onto their second clubs by the start of 2025, and at least several of those - lukosius, rankine, bobby hill - arguably didn't amount to the players they were expected to be at their first club

interestingly only five premiership players - atkins from the cats, who was picked in the rookie draft, jordon and sparrow from us, and then quaynor plus norm smith medallist bobby hill, who i think the filth picked up for a pick in the 40s from gw$

 

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18 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Hamish Davis moving up the board, not mentioned in earlier phantom drafts, will continue to climb the way he’s going and will be top 20 by the end of September and likely to be first West Aussie drafted

Ahead of Bo Allen?

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2 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Hamish Davis moving up the board, not mentioned in earlier phantom drafts, will continue to climb the way he’s going and will be top 20 by the end of September and likely to be first West Aussie drafted

Yes I think he has pushed up to the mid 20s range now.  If the Dees get that pick 25 off the crows (ANB + MFC #51 -> Crows #25) then the following players are probably in the frame… Hamish Davis, Jesse Dattoli,  Harrison Oliver & Christian Moraes. 

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3 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

even then, nearly half of those players will be onto their second clubs by the start of 2025, and at least several of those - lukosius, rankine, bobby hill - arguably didn't amount to the players they were expected to be at their first club

interestingly only five premiership players - atkins from the cats, who was picked in the rookie draft, jordon and sparrow from us, and then quaynor plus norm smith medallist bobby hill, who i think the filth picked up for a pick in the 40s from gw$

 

Moving clubs irrelevant imo, these guys have just turned 24 this year - so just entering prime.

Considering they could play for another 10 years if good enough, a lot more will end careers with a premiership medal. 

Of the top 13, 12 are on track to play 200+ games - Thomas, the anomaly, had nothing to do with football ability. 

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8 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Ahead of Bo Allen?

Yes I think Bo Allen is very impressive and I would rank 16-17. He has good size as a mid and skills.  
Davis at 25-29.  He’s a good runner and wins the footy.  It’s his kicking that might be a knock on him just imv.  

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@Whispering_Jack  thanks WJ  …thought I’d switch this also in this thread 

Smythe on bigfooty has put out his Top 40 picks -

    1    Sid Draper 
    2    Finn O'Sullivan
    3    Jagga Smith
    4    Levi Ashcroft 
    5    Sam Lalor
    6    Luke Trainor
    7    Harvey Langford
    8    Josh Smillie
    9    Murphy Reid
    10    Tobie Travaglia
    11    Joe Berry
    12    Leo Lombard
    13    Jobe Shanahan
    14    Xavier Lindsay
    15    Taj Hotton
    16    Bo Allan 
    17    Alex Dodson
    18    Isaac Kako
    19    Jack Whitlock
    20    Alix Tauru
    21    Harry Armstrong 
    22    Sam Marshall
    23    Harry Oliver
    24    Tom Gross
    25    Matt Whitlock
    26    Hamish David
    27    Lachie Jaques
    28    Jess Dattoli
    29    Cooper Hynes
    30    Harry O'Farrell
    31    Christian Moraes
    32    Ben Camporeale
    33    Angus Clarke 
    34    Kayle Gerreyn
    35    Noah Mraz
    36    Jonty Faull
    37    Tom Simms
    38    Adrian Cole
    39    James Barrat
    40    Tyler Welsh

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On 14/09/2024 at 09:01, spirit of norm smith said:

@Whispering_Jack  thanks WJ  …thought I’d switch this also in this thread 

Smythe on bigfooty has put out his Top 40 picks -

    1    Sid Draper 
    2    Finn O'Sullivan
    3    Jagga Smith
    4    Levi Ashcroft 
    5    Sam Lalor
    6    Luke Trainor
    7    Harvey Langford
    8    Josh Smillie
    9    Murphy Reid
    10    Tobie Travaglia
    11    Joe Berry
    12    Leo Lombard
    13    Jobe Shanahan
    14    Xavier Lindsay
    15    Taj Hotton
    16    Bo Allan 
    17    Alex Dodson
    18    Isaac Kako
    19    Jack Whitlock
    20    Alix Tauru
    21    Harry Armstrong 
    22    Sam Marshall
    23    Harry Oliver
    24    Tom Gross
    25    Matt Whitlock
    26    Hamish David
    27    Lachie Jaques
    28    Jess Dattoli
    29    Cooper Hynes
    30    Harry O'Farrell
    31    Christian Moraes
    32    Ben Camporeale
    33    Angus Clarke 
    34    Kayle Gerreyn
    35    Noah Mraz
    36    Jonty Faull
    37    Tom Simms
    38    Adrian Cole
    39    James Barrat
    40    Tyler Welsh

His top 40 but not a phantom draft. I doubt that Richmond will pick Draper ahead of the bevy of midfielders at the top of this draft, nor will North Melbourne. I reckon he’ll be picked by Adelaide. 

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    TRAINING: Wednesday 18th December 2024

    It was the final session of 2024 before the Christmas/New Years break and the Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force to bring you the following preseason training observations from Wednesday's session at Gosch's Paddock. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS TRAINING: Petracca, Oliver, Melksham, Woewodin, Langdon, Rivers, Billings, Sestan, Viney, Fullarton, Adams, Langford, Lever, Petty, Spargo, Fritsch, Bowey, Laurie, Kozzy, Mentha, George, May, Gawn, Turner Tholstrup, Kentfi

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    TRAINING: Monday 16th December 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers braved the sweltering heat to bring you their Preseason Training observations from Gosch's Paddock on Monday morning. SCOOP JUNIOR'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I went down today in what were pretty ordinary conditions - hot and windy. When I got there, they were doing repeat simulations of a stoppage on the wing and then moving the ball inside 50. There seemed to be an emphasis on handballing out of the stoppage, usually there were 3 or 4 handballs to

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    TRAINING: Friday 13th December 2024

    With only a few sessions left before the Christmas break a number of Demonlander Trackwatchers headed down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations from this morning's preseason training session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS PLAYERS IN ATTENDANCE: JVR, Salem, McVee, Petracca, Windsor, Viney, Lever, Spargo, Turner, Gawn, Tholstrup, Oliver, Billings, Langdon, Laurie, Bowey, Melksham, Langford, Lindsay, Jefferson, Howes, McAdam, Rivers, TMac, Adams, Hore, Verrall,

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    TRAINING: Wednesday 11th December 2024

    A few new faces joined our veteran Demonland Trackwatchers on a beautiful morning out at Gosch's Paddock for another Preseason Training Session. BLWNBA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I arrived at around 1015 and the squad was already out on the track. The rehab group consisted of XL, McAdam, Melksham, Spargo and Sestan. Lever was also on restricted duties and appeared to be in runners.  The main group was doing end-to-end transition work in a simulated match situation. Ball mov

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    TRAINING: Monday 9th December 2024

    Once again Demonland Trackwatchers were in attendance at the first preseason training session for the week at Gosch's Paddock to bring you their observations. WAYNE WUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Looks like very close to 100% attendance. Kelani is back. Same group in rehab. REHAB: Spargo, Lever, Lindsay, Brown & McAdam. Haven’t laid eyes on Fritsch or AMW yet. Fritsch sighted. One unknown mature standing with Goody. Noticing Nathan Bassett much m

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    TRAINING: Friday 6th December 2024

    Some veteran Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock to bring you the following observations from another Preseason Training Session. WAYNE WUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Rehab: Lever, Spargo, McAdam, Lindsay, Brown Sinnema is excellent by foot and has a decent vertical leap. Windsor is training with the Defenders. Windsor's run won't be lost playing off half back. In 19 games in 2024 he kicked 8 goals as a winger. I see him getting shots at g

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    TRAINING: Wednesday 4th December 2024

    A couple of intrepid Demonland Trackwatchers headed down to Gosch's Paddock for the midweek Preseason Training Session to bring you the following observations. Demonland's own Whispering Jack was not in attendance but he kicked off proceedings with the following summary of all the Preseason Training action to date. We’re already a month into the MFC preseason (if you started counting when the younger players in the group began the campaign along with some of the more keen older heads)

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    BEST OF THE REST by Meggs

    Meggs' Review of Melbourne's AFLW Season 9 ... Congratulations first off to the North Melbourne Kangaroos on winning the 2024 AFLW Premiership. Roos Coach Darren Crocker has assembled a team chock-full of competitive and highly skilful players who outclassed the Brisbane Lions in the Grand Final to remain undefeated throughout Season 9. A huge achievement in what was a dominant season by North. For Melbourne fans, the season was unfortunately one of frustration and disappointment

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    TRAINING: Monday 2nd December 2024

    There were many Demonland Trackwatchers braving the morning heat at Gosch's Paddock today to witness the players go through the annual 2km time trials. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Max, TMac & Melksham the first ones out on the track.  Runners are on. Guess they will be doing a lot of running.  TRAINING: Max, TMac, Melksham, Woey, Rivers, AMW, May, Sharp, Kolt, Adams, Sparrow, Jefferson, Billings, Petty, chandler, Howes, Lever, Kozzy, Mentha, Fullarton, Sal

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