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6 hours ago, deejammin' said:

I think you and a few others are misunderstanding what I am saying.

I’m NOT saying no players or people affiliated with players and club staff are leaking, some of them to Morris, clearly Trac’s camp has. That’s exactly what Gawny was lamenting today and it has to stop. Partly as it spreads rumours maliciously, ask any player “your club is shopping player x around, why?” And they may well be able to come up with behavioural reasons, or disgruntled other players or dynamics between staff and the player to explain why. Particularly when there’s a review underway, But it’s a classic disingenuous journalism and lawyer tactic as it’s all speculation and the players don’t know that original statement to be true, it may be false, and thus they may be providing reasons which don’t exist for a situation that isn’t happening.
 

I’m also NOT saying Clarry didn’t meet with Geelong. That’s well documented. 
 

What I am saying is that the people/person at the heart of this issue at MFC are NOT leaking to Morris.

This whole thing boils down to:

1. Did Gary Pert shop Oliver to other club officials.

2. Was he doing so with the blessing of the footy department, list management team and were they planning to push Oliver out. 

3. Were the board aware. 

None of the people from MFC who know the answers to those three things are leaking to Morris. As I said in my original post neither the BOARD nor ADMINISTRATION are leaking to Morris, especially given his history with the club. He is extremely disliked by MFC for breaking stories while an employee. Extremely disliked by the Bulldogs for breaking stories without fact checking and sensitivity checking first, Richmond ditto. Even if Pert, Goodwin, Lamb, Richo or the board wanted to leak to the media. It wouldn’t be Morris.

So where did Morris’s original story that Pet was shopping Oliver around come from? Clearly officials from the other club(s) involved. 
 

This will all play out now but one of three things has happened. 

1. Pert did do it on his own and will likely be gone now as he has lost the faith of the board, administration and football department. 

2. Pert did do it with the blessing of at least part of the list management comittee or FD and our club is a dumpster fire that has lost the plot. The review needs to be made independent of Pert and we need to get our house in order even more than we already did.

3. Club officials at Geelong misrepresented an honest conversation with Pert where he didn’t shop Oliver around for their own advantage. Or worse made the whole thing up. Oliver and his management heard from reporters this was the case and looked into Geelong as he was hurt by this reporting and flattered by their pitch. 
 

All three scenarios are possible and I don’t trust Tom Morris or Sam McLure to give us any unbiased or truthful opinions on this. I don’t believe the board only found all this out two days ago and that’s why it’s stopped either, as reported by Morris tonight. They would’ve been across the media the whole time. And there’s no way the board was leaking that to Morris. They are the only ones who would know. 
 

That’s what I was saying, agree or disagree, but nothing is “clearly the case” here.

 

 

Can someone highlight a story where McLure slammed his club Carlton, just for my interest?

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After hearing Green speak, it feels like the new era is beginning to usurp the old. I hope he takes over from Pert when this is all said and done. 

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Fancy getting Trac's name wrong. The quicker Green is out, the better.

As for the BnF, I suppose Pert got up and spoke. What was the reception for him? Can't imagine it was warm...

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Having read everything to date I think it's not unreasonable to come to the conclusion that had another team offered us appropriate compensation then Clarry would be out the door. Not unlike the BP5 scenario however, there was just too little time for anyone to cobble together anything close to what we deem worthy. Everything else surrounding both is now just damage control and window dressing. 

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2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Fancy getting Trac's name wrong. The quicker Green is out, the better.

As for the BnF, I suppose Pert got up and spoke. What was the reception for him? Can't imagine it was warm...

So this is who you are now? Mean spirited, reactionary, just anti-Pert bias?

Life is rarely as black and white as you are reading the last few days, and clubs like ours can rarely afford to lose leadership so readily.

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2 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Fancy getting Trac's name wrong. The quicker Green is out, the better.

As for the BnF, I suppose Pert got up and spoke. What was the reception for him? Can't imagine it was warm...

"Muted" would be the word I would use. Unfortunately he then said Ben Brown had worn the No. 38. Oops.

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1 minute ago, Hawk the Demon said:

He pronounced it "Pea Tracker" rather than "Pea Trarker". Tricky with the nickname Trac.

 

 

So as an Aussie he said it that way instead of the Italian way.

That is the least of his and our problems.

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8 minutes ago, Hawk the Demon said:

He pronounced it "Pea Tracker" rather than "Pea Trarker". Tricky with the nickname Trac.

 

 

did he use the correct pronoun (he/him). If not then Pert needs to be burned at the stake

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