Oliver Trade Rumours

[Supreme_Demon 3,916]

I have been a fan of Gary Pert as CEO for the Melbourne Football Club for a while.

I thought he could help make us a big Club like we used to be way back in the 1950s and 1960s. Back where we belong. Making the Melbourne Demons the centre of the AFL Universe.

However, the article in "The Age" is quite damning (if true).

If Gary Pert has gone back to the bad habits he allegedly displayed while Collingwood CEO then that sets off alarm bells.

A CEO of a football club should not be sticking their nose into player movement decisions.

If Gary Pert has done this, then I think that it will be curtains for him. I hope this isn't the case as Gary Pert has been an excellent CEO in my opinion. His track record of achieving objectives has been very impressive.

Anyway, at this stage it is all scuttlebutt and innuendo. The media seem to like sticking their boots into the Melbourne Football Club.

Hopefully, the external Club review currently being conducted will uncover any significant issues. At the moment, everything else is just "fugazi" as they say.

[pitmaster 3,589]

Morris says Melbourne are saying one thing publicly (he's ours) and something else privately.

Gleeson is essentially saying the same thing when he reports sources saying Pert has been asking about for takers.

There is a uniformity about these reports that I think is disturbing and if it is Pert at the root of it then he can buzz off. Footy Department is not his territory. 

Those criticisms of Pert from Collingwood are starting to resonate. Happy for him to go now and bring back Josh Mahoney from the Bombers to be the CEO footy people wanted originally.

[drysdale demon 4,837]

26 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

Meanwhile, seems to have been started again by Pert, sitting on his deckchair at his home in Noosa.



https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-inside-story-how-word-spread-that-oliver-was-on-the-market-again-20241001-p5kevi.html

BS.

[Brownie 6,066]

4 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Maybe let's start by keeping the CEO out of list management decisions? 

If this is not a ploy to remove Pert, I am seriously starting to question whether this club is capable of running a donut stand, let alone a football club.

Mmm. Brisbane, go to Vegas, all hell rains down between players and partners and they lose their first 5 or 6.  They then straighten up, pull themselves together and smash out a premiership.

Melbourne.... Shopping around a once in a generation player after spending a season getting him back on track because another player that wants to leave, trashes the club and then realises he can't leave....yet, doesn't like said other player.

So he demands said player gets shipped off and our CEO hanging out in Noosa while doing an intensive review of the club puts a post up on Facebook marketplace just to see who wants to kick the tyres.

And it's likely we'll trade the once in a generation talent out to a club who is expert in taking senior players from other clubs and getting the absolute best out of them. 

Am I reading this right so far?

Why bother with the review?

We definitely appear incapable of cookin doughnuts.

[KozzyCan 788]

34 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

Meanwhile, seems to have been started again by Pert, sitting on his deckchair at his home in Noosa.



https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-inside-story-how-word-spread-that-oliver-was-on-the-market-again-20241001-p5kevi.html

Pert needs to be sacked yesterday.

[dazzledavey36 55,853]

54 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Do you know this as fact??

When the club forces Oliver to move in with the captain of the footy club due to his off field behaviour, I think that in itself is pretty self explanatory. 

[dazzledavey36 55,853]

So Gary Pert making list management decisions it seems..

 

[demoncat 1,601]

Seriously can we ship Pert off already? 

I don’t have an issue with the club shopping Oliver if they think that is what’s best - tough decisions are required for all clubs to be successful 

But every time there is a media blow up it seems Pert is at the heart of it 

Why is he contacting other clubs about potential trades and not Tim Lamb? Why has he again put the club in a position where we’re walking back something that’s he’s gone out of his way to leak in the first place?

Everything about this bloke just screams amateur hour when it comes to the club’s PR  

[Bring-Back-Powell 15,240]

25 minutes ago, DeesignerAU said:

Bring back ACTION JACKSON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Archive image used above - don't get too excited

Best non playing acquisition in the modern day history of the MFC.

 

[TheWiz 782]

33 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

This is a scathing article. 

It suggests that the club has tried floating Clarry’s name, then regretted it, and now is trying to walk it back. 

It’s inconsistent with what Jon Ralph has reported, and isn’t even consistent with McClure (McClure said Clarry wanted out, Gleeson says we’ve started this). But if it’s true, it is not good. 

If it’s true that Pert shopped him around, then it’s deplorable that the club says that Oliver’s interview was news to them and they’re looking forward to him being in the red and blue for 2025. Serious gaslighting of Oliver and supporters.

[titan_uranus 25,174]

25 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

three journos saying three very different things in two publications

so why believe any of em

It's now four journos actually.

I had thought they were all over the place but I'm not so sure.

McClure said Oliver felt unwanted and was exploring his options.

Ralph said the club knew nothing about that and quoted Richardson as saying he's a required player and will be here next year.

Morris said that Oliver wants to stay but the club has suggested he look around, and what the club says publicly isn't necessarily what it thinks privately.

Gleeson said that over the last few weeks we've invited other clubs to pitch for him and are now walking that back.

Writing this all out, Ralph's the outlier. There is a commonality between McClure, Morris and Gleeson - Oliver feels like the club doesn't want him (i.e. because the club has shopped him around).

Edited October 1, 2024 by titan_uranus

[Adam The God 30,602]

34 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Pert needs to be sacked yesterday.

It's mind-boggling how some posters are supportive of Pert arguing he's met his KPIs.

If culture, a training base, growing the membership base, sponsorships and financials are in his wheelhouse (clue, they are), he's been an ordinary appointment.

Edited October 1, 2024 by Adam The God

[DeesignerAU 383]

Just now, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Best non playing acquisition in the modern day history of the MFC.

 

Agree - Darren Burgess a close second

[Jaded No More 68,975]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

So Gary Pert making list management decisions it seems..

 

It's hard to remember a time in recent years where I've been angrier with this football club.

I back and support this club always, but letting Pert throw Clarry under the bus, when he's worked his behind off and is well loved by his teammates, is just utterly putrid. 

Where the [censored] is our list manager, coach and football manager? Because I don't remember the last time a CEO has made list management decisions.

 

[sue 9,171]

7 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

So Gary Pert making list management decisions it seems..

 

I don't think it foilows that Pert is " making list management decisions ".   If this is true (and it's always a big IF), he could be doing it as requested by the people who do do the list management.  He may have had no involvement with the decision, just is the messenger boy,

Edited October 1, 2024 by sue

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

So Gary Pert making list management decisions it seems..

 

If this is true, Gary Pert should resign. best culture in 40 years and the CEO has to step in and perform the list managers role for him. 

[KozzyCan 788]

1 minute ago, Adam The God said:

It's mind-boggling how some posters are supportive of Pert arguing he's met his KPIs.

If culture, a training base, growing the membership base, sponsorships and financials are in his wheelhouse (clue, they are), he's been an utter disaster.

This is to blatant to ignore. Complete overreach of his position appears to have blindsided others at the club.

[titan_uranus 25,174]

1 minute ago, sue said:

I don't think it foilows that Pert is " making list management decisions ".   If this is true (and it's always a big IF), he could be doing it as requested by the people who do the list management.  He have had no involvement with the decision, just is the messenger boy,

In what world does the CEO become a list management messenger boy?

[Adam The God 30,602]

3 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

It's hard to remember a time in recent years where I've been angrier with this football club.

I back and support this club always, but letting Pert throw Clarry under the bus, when he's worked his behind off and is well loved by his teammates, is just utterly putrid. 

Where the [censored] is our list manager, coach and football manager? Because I don't remember the last time a CEO has made list management decisions.

 

That was Cameron Schwab's MO was it not? And we know how that ended.

[Adam The God 30,602]

4 minutes ago, sue said:

I don't think it foilows that Pert is " making list management decisions ".   If this is true (and it's always a big IF), he could be doing it as requested by the people who do do the list management.  He may have had no involvement with the decision, just is the messenger boy,

Why would list management ask the CEO to ring around other clubs? They would do it themselves.

[daisycutter 29,891]

time for another famous  pert public statement and letter to members

i bet i could almost guess it word for word

[Jaded No More 68,975]

1 minute ago, Adam The God said:

That was Cameron Schwab's MO was it not? And we know how that ended.

It's also what ultimately got Pert sacked at the Pies.

History repeating, with a president at the helm that allowed Gutnick to pull the wool over his eyes.

Lord help us.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Just now, daisycutter said:

time for another famous  pert public statement and letter to members

i bet i could almost guess it word for word

"After i have reviewed my own performance and swept all failings under the rug, i have concluded we have the greatest culture in AFL history and i've signed an extension for 20 more years"

 

[The Jackson FIX 3,367]

25 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Maybe let's start by keeping the CEO out of list management decisions? 

What if the current ‘investigation’ being run at the club (which is due to end soon I think?) has already arrived at a recommendation that the best thing for the club was for a certain player not to be there anymore? That might explain why the CEO is involved. 

[dazzledavey36 55,853]

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

It's hard to remember a time in recent years where I've been angrier with this football club.

I back and support this club always, but letting Pert throw Clarry under the bus, when he's worked his behind off and is well loved by his teammates, is just utterly putrid. 

Where the [censored] is our list manager, coach and football manager? Because I don't remember the last time a CEO has made list management decisions.

 

I agree it's an absolute disgrace.

Pert needs to go, this is Cam Schwab levels all over again.