POSTGAME: Rd 18 vs Essendon

[Supdeano 31]

So we're still making excuses for Petty's performance (selection) because 

A) lack of preseason/injuries

B) he's playing out of position 

It's not all on him, I get it, it's as much on team selection that causes him to either play unfit or play in a position where he's ineffective.

But we can't rely on these issues when analysing performance. If you're not fit or in position where you need to play, then let's call it out.

He was monstered by Draper and not much more effective in the forward line v Mackay.

Out muscled, out bodies, out worked across the ground.

[layzie 33,022]

Just now, Wrecker46 said:

So many positives tonight. 

My only negative is i kind of wish Kolt's nickname was Disco

Just run with Dirk, the cool kids are doing it.

[Supdeano 31]

So we're still making excuses for Petty's performance (selection) because 

A) lack of preseason/injuries

B) he's playing out of position 

It's not all on him, I get it, it's as much on team selection that causes him to either play unfit or play in a position where he's ineffective.

But we can't rely on these issues when analysing performance. If you're not fit or in position where you need to play, then let's call it out.

He was monstered by Draper and not much more effective in the forward line v Mackay.

Out muscled, out bodies, out worked across the ground.

[Supdeano 31]

So we're still making excuses for Petty's performance (selection) because 

A) lack of preseason/injuries

B) he's playing out of position 

It's not all on him, I get it, it's as much on team selection that causes him to either play unfit or play in a position where he's ineffective.

But we can't rely on these issues when analysing performance. If you're not fit or in position where you need to play, then let's call it out.

He was monstered by Draper and not much more effective in the forward line v Mackay.

Out muscled, out bodied, out worked across the ground.

[monoccular 17,338]

Just got home after a great fighting win against 24 opponents -  umpire 22 and that pretty boy ?2 tried their hardest in the final Q though in fairness pretty boy gave us 2 late frees.

Very excited by the younguns special mention of the first years Windsor Kolt AMW who add exhilaration and excitement, and particularly Windsor's royal command performance in goal assists and delivery forward in general.   JVR fought manfully in the ruck though. we missed him badly in the deep forward line.  Far from convinced re Petty as a ruck though he did OK around the ground as far as I could see.  Max is irreplaceable, so kudos to the whole team for a very even effort - no obvious passengers (despite pickett fence's undisguised dislike for Petty).

 

[kev martin 9,514]

How about that, able to take the foot off the pedal late in the fourth against against a contender.

We know how to win when we play with effort and will.

Building at the right end of a season. 

The next (Freo in Perth) is a big test again, hope we learnt plenty from the Alice loss.

 

Edited July 13 by kev martin

[titan_uranus 24,656]

Just noticed that Rivers had 29 touches (second most for all players, behind Langdon), but only 67% TOG.

Incredible, really.

[Dee Zephyr 19,174]

Just now, Supdeano said:

So we're still making excuses for Petty's performance (selection) because 

A) lack of preseason/injuries

B) he's playing out of position 

It's not all on him, I get it, it's as much on team selection that causes him to either play unfit or play in a position where he's ineffective.

But we can't rely on these issues when analysing performance. If you're not fit or in position where you need to play, then let's call it out.

He was monstered by Draper and not much more effective in the forward line v Mackay.

Out muscled, out bodied, out worked across the ground.

Hmm, all your posts on this thread are about potting Petty.

Goal assists 

Petty 1 Draper 0

Score involvements.

Petty 2 Draper 2

Tackles 

Petty 5 Draper 1.

Reflecting on that I might give Petty votes.

[Return to Glory 8,250]

1 minute ago, monoccular said:

Just got home after a great fighting win against 24 opponents -  umpire 22 and that pretty boy ?2 tried their hardest in the final Q though in fairness pretty boy gave us 2 late frees.

Very excited by the younguns special mention of the first years Windsor Kolt AMW who add exhilaration and excitement, and particularly Windsor's royal command performance in goal assists and delivery forward in general.   JVR fought manfully in the ruck though. we missed him badly in the deep forward line.  Far from convinced re Petty as a ruck though he did OK around the ground as far as I could see.  Max is irreplaceable, so kudos to the whole team for a very even effort - no obvious passengers (despite pickett fence's undisguised dislike for Petty).

 

I've been highly critical of Petty for a fair while. Isn't a ruckman but I do think people have been a little tough on him tonight. 

[Supdeano 31]

25 minutes ago, BoBo said:

Genuinely asking, what would you have done? 
 

Certainly not played Petty.

Not after his last few weeks pre injury.

Either JVR sole ruck and have another impactful forward, or a Fullerton/Verrell.

Either of these options would have been more fruitful than Petty, either as a ruck or as a forward option.

[Mickey 4,469]

Just watching the replay.

It's obvious the umps gave a bit of leniency early on based on the weather. And we had a number of calls go our way, including TMacs spoil on Langdon.

On the weather, it looks like we have finally stopped trying to handball our way in wet weather. The number of times they just hacked it forward off the ground when needed was actually good to see.

The kids aren't just alright, they are seriously tough.

Melky just wins so many important 1 on 1s.

Loved McVee toweling up Stringer, and May getting into him when he tried the don't argue.

Langdon's running is unbelievable. Imagine running nearly 16km (🤮) and having a guys say 'Nah, I think I'll run another 2km.'

[Big Col 1,320]

Two shoutouts. The first one is for Oliver.
He had 25 possessions today and I think you could say this was his best game since Rd2. He's still a long way from Peak Clarry but I have the gut feeling he's going to play some seriously good games before the end of the season. 
The other is for MIlkshake. I know it's been said plenty on DL tonight but I need to say it too! His penetrating 'link' kicks are sublime. He could have had 4 goals today (missed a sitter and handballed one off to Lingers) and we are seriously a better team with him in it.

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,528]

2 minutes ago, Supdeano said:

So we're still making excuses for Petty's performance (selection) because 

A) lack of preseason/injuries

B) he's playing out of position 

It's not all on him, I get it, it's as much on team selection that causes him to either play unfit or play in a position where he's ineffective.

But we can't rely on these issues when analysing performance. If you're not fit or in position where you need to play, then let's call it out.

He was monstered by Draper and not much more effective in the forward line v Mackay.

Out muscled, out bodied, out worked across the ground.

I’m just excited to read another 7,000 posts bagging Petty this week despite us winning and keeping the season alive. Can’t wait. 

[Dr. Gonzo 23,725]

23 minutes ago, layzie said:

"Man up!"

"Just kick the bloody thing!"

"Who was that to??"

[WalkingCivilWar 39,264]

15 minutes ago, JamesE said:

Tremendous win. I’ve read the comments on this board for 10 years and generally never felt the need to add my voice to the many reasoned, cogent and considered comments. However, having noticed a growing trend for commentary against Goodwin and Oliver, I feel the need to speak up. The former delivered the first premiership for the club in 57 years and has turned around an absolute [censored] show, imbuing the group with the character on show tonight. The latter, regardless of how you personally judge him, is arguably the most influential player to ever pull on the red and blue. 4 best and fairests are some proof. Others in that conversation are Barassi, Flower, Gawn and possibly Petracca. I digress. As it transpired the move not to replace Gawn tonight was the right call, despite many using it as a platform to deride the coach yet again. We are two kicks from second on the ladder, and have an exciting young crop coming though. Windsor will be a star.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Could NOT have said it better myself! Thank you James!!!! I hope all the Goody-bashers enjoy a big fat serving of humble pie, even better… a cold and lumpy serving.

PS PLEASE KEEP ON POSTING.

We need to hear more from folks like you. Unfortunately the misery-guts, doom n gloom-mongers on here are the most vocal. They know who they are and we know who they are and in the words of one of my heroes… they can “get stuffed.”

YEAH THE MIGHTY [censored] DEES!

[Bowserpower 102]

We were excellent tonight. Think a few people might need to apologise to Goodwin.

[Supdeano 31]

2 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Hmm, all your posts on this thread are about potting Petty.

Goal assists 

Petty 1 Draper 0

Score involvements.

Petty 2 Draper 2

Tackles 

Petty 5 Draper 1.

Reflecting on that I might give Petty votes.

Petty was clearly worst on ground for us, and only bettered by 2m Peter on the other team.

A Joe the goose handball for a goal is hardly anything to write home about.

Fact is he just shouldn't have been selected and I'm puzzled by the back patting and self congratulating types who are justifying his selection, when he was very poor, unfortunately again.

I'd love to see him be a great player for us again, but his form just doesn't warrant selection currently.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,725]

10 minutes ago, Supdeano said:

So we're still making excuses for Petty's performance (selection) because 

A) lack of preseason/injuries

B) he's playing out of position 

It's not all on him, I get it, it's as much on team selection that causes him to either play unfit or play in a position where he's ineffective.

But we can't rely on these issues when analysing performance. If you're not fit or in position where you need to play, then let's call it out.

He was monstered by Draper and not much more effective in the forward line v Mackay.

Out muscled, out bodies, out worked across the ground.

He's too weak in the contest, really struggles to hold his ground and at least break even in 1:1s. If he gets a good run at the footy he's good but even then his marking isn't elite. Needs to at least halve the contest around the ground but is ineffectual way too often and looks to the umpire for frees when he has just been outmuscled.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,590]

8 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

Hmm, all your posts on this thread are about potting Petty.

Goal assists 

Petty 1 Draper 0

Score involvements.

Petty 2 Draper 2

Tackles 

Petty 5 Draper 1.

Reflecting on that I might give Petty votes.

He was Herculean tonight a make shift ruckman did his job to a t, f the haters they don't know his importance tonight.

Edited July 13 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,590]

2 minutes ago, Supdeano said:

Petty was clearly worst on ground for us, and only bettered by 2m Peter on the other team.

A Joe the goose handball for a goal is hardly anything to write home about.

Fact is he just shouldn't have been selected and I'm puzzled by the back patting and self congratulating types who are justifying his selection, when he was very poor, unfortunately again.

I'd love to see him be a great player for us again, but his form just doesn't warrant selection currently.

You aren't a supporter.

What game did you watch tonight?

[dazzledavey36 52,908]

9 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Just noticed that Rivers had 29 touches (second most for all players, behind Langdon), but only 67% TOG.

Incredible, really.

He was off in the rooms for a fair while getting his shoulder strapped.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,725]

Great to get a win for Kozzie's 100th and glad he was able to hit the scoreboard. He had really gained some consistency this year which is due to him spending more time in the middle. He doesn't need to be the matchwinner every week, just needs to play his role and then take the chances when they come like the last 2 weeks.

Crazy to think he's still only 22/23.

[WalkingCivilWar 39,264]

16 minutes ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

I’m just excited to read another 7,000 posts bagging Petty this week despite us winning and keeping the season alive. Can’t wait. 

Right???? What tf is wrong with some people????!!!! They must need someone to belittle to make themselves feel big. Seems HP is their guy, for now anyways. Miserable [censored]-ers

Edited July 13 by WalkingCivilWar
SO ANGRY AT THE RELENTLESS PETTY-BASHING THAT I MADE A TYPO FFS

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,590]

9 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

He's too weak in the contest, really struggles to hold his ground and at least break even in 1:1s. If he gets a good run at the footy he's good but even then his marking isn't elite. Needs to at least halve the contest around the ground but is ineffectual way too often and looks to the umpire for frees when he has just been outmuscled.

Draper had no influence tonight, job done.

Petty, JVR and Disco quelled his influence.

So Essendon mids were all over us were they?

Come on guys give him some credit for disrupting his influence on the game.

Can you imagine if we lost?

f me sideways, hard to please some of you.

 

Edited July 13 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

[dees189227 12,234]

Was it a wet night there?

How did kolt go?