On 18/06/2024 at 10:46, Moonshadow said:

2023: Ben McKay, X Duursma, Taylor Adams, Brody Grundy

2022: Brody Grundy, Izak Rankine, Jason Horne Francis, Luke Jackson, Josh Dunkley, Tom Mitchell, Jacob Hopper, Taranto

2021: Adam Cerra, Jordan Dawson

2020: Adam Saad, Peter Wright, Treloar, Cameron, Daniher

Whether these guys are 'elite' or not is always up for debate

Some were involved in MFC trades, some were going home to other states, some have only come good after moving clubs, some have had setbacks, some are yet to fulfill their potential

The but the bigger question is would they have improved our list significantly? Even if we landed 2 or 3 of them? 

I think so.

Putting the mess of Brody Grundy aside, we've been poor at trading in since Steven May came on board 6 years ago.

Are we on the nose?

Peter Wright would have been handy, the exact type of player we were searching for.

$500k a year, 23 years old at the time also. Would have suited us down to the ground.

Ben Brown came in and served us well for 2021 (premiership) massive when the whips were cracking and the next 3 years have been a complete struggle for him.

We knew about his knee history when taking him on, rolled the dice on 4 years and paid the price in 2022 and 2023 finals series.

Edited July 2, 2024Jul 2 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

2 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Dees reportedly into waterman from WCE. Wants to stay at Eagles but is being lowballed. 
 

Perfect if we can get him. Source FoxFooty The Tackle. Geelong also into him.

It would be amateur hour if our club aren't aggots deep into these two prospects.

I'd offer Waterman 800k over 5 years If that's the case 26 years old.

Would be tough to prize him out of WA though.

But King hasn't realised his potential yet. He played his best game against us this year kicking 4 goals.

Is there something in this?

Max is Victorian, better chance of landing him, at 23 y.o you would have to offer him a 8-10 year deal on par with our highest earners to prize him out of the Saints.

If his manager is Paul Connors we have a massive chance of Landing him. 

On form you would go Waterman over King but it would be best to ask May and Lever who has been be the biggest headache for them.

Edited July 2, 2024Jul 2 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

We'd have two of the nastiest angriest key forwards with a JVR Waterman pair. Get it done Dees!

He’d be a great get but the reports state that he’s keen to stay at West Coast and that it’s actually him and his management who have raised the prospect of an extension 

I’d be shocked if they didn’t come to an agreement by the end of the year or early next year 

Having said that we’d be negligent not to throw a big offer his way to at least make him think about it!

11 hours ago, Sideshow Bob said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/department-of-trade/afl-2024-trade-news-rumours-whispers-hawthorn-hawks-meeting-with-harry-perryman-in-sydney-raid-sam-mitchell-daniel-rioli-wont-be-traded-to-gold-coast-suns-latest/news-story/0f4b3d8b055212a5554c3c242e5cf509

Up to our necks in waterman

450k on the table at WCE. Guessing we'd offer 800k

Just more fluff by the media clowns.

West Couast could easy restructure and extend Waterman's contract to match offers from Victoria. Who else do they have to pay in the next couple of years? He's from WA and his dad played for West Coast.

Won't happen.

a nice pair of mullets - Kolt and Waterman

Is it possible that West Coast won’t have the money for Waterman if they want to sign Reid for 10 years? And remembering they have Oscar Allen he won’t be cheap. 

38 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Just more fluff by the media clowns.

Apparently McLuggage and Stengle are very gettable too - oh, wait...

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Is it possible that West Coast won’t have the money for Waterman if they want to sign Reid for 10 years? And remembering they have Oscar Allen he won’t be cheap. 

Any more Reid money will be 2 years off and others will be leaving and they could front end Waterman a bit.

He won't leave, Eagles will get the deal done.

Edited July 3, 2024Jul 3 by Redleg

Isaac Cumming is an unrestricted free agent who I hope we are looking at. He would be a good replacement for Gus as that utility who can play halfback or on a wing.

Turns 26 in a few months so is in a good age bracket for us as well.

1 hour ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Apparently McLuggage and Stengle are very gettable too - oh, wait...

And Max King won't be going anywhere.

On 23/06/2024 at 21:25, ChaserJ said:

Media types are speculating on his availability. It’s entirely possible that a couple of clubs clubs think they’re a chance and the chatter’s hit the industry. 
 

The thought of Clarry in another club’s colors makes me a little sick, but have a nagging feeling that this could gain momentum.

If he ends up anywhere and I sincerely hope he stays it will be GEELONG, A source close to the club Geelong who is a mate of mine has spoken to me re this🤯

7 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

And Max King won't be going anywhere.

Looks like he'll be going into rehab as he's suffered a PCL injury which might end his season.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/blow-for-saints-as-max-king-suffers-pcl-injury-20240703-p5jqp9.html

The Bowey thing is interesting. Not from a StKilda perspective but there are a bunch of parents and families, particularly of the younger players, who are a bit unsettled re their respective son’s.

It doesn’t mean anything will eventuate but Bowey is an example of a player who fits the above profile and his old man still supports the Saints.

David Schwartz suggesting Dees go all out to get Max King - suggesting we could trade JVR for him! 
I don’t think so Mr Schwartz.

10 minutes ago, JJJ said:

The Bowey thing is interesting. Not from a StKilda perspective but there are a bunch of parents and families, particularly of the younger players, who are a bit unsettled re their respective son’s.

It doesn’t mean anything will eventuate but Bowey is an example of a player who fits the above profile and his old man still supports the Saints.

The young players at the MFC are unsettled? Really? They're all getting opportunities and most starting to show their wares.

I know some of them were a bit shellshocked after a big post West Coast bake, but I haven't heard anything about being unsettled...

14 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

David Schwartz suggesting Dees go all out to get Max King - suggesting we could trade JVR for him! 
I don’t think so Mr Schwartz.

Demented. 

"Schwarta, what do you reckon? Would you like to cut off your right foot, but get a right foot from someone else?" "That sounds like a pretty good deal to me!" 🤦

Edited July 3, 2024Jul 3 by Binmans PA

14 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

David Schwartz suggesting Dees go all out to get Max King - suggesting we could trade JVR for him! 
I don’t think so Mr Schwartz.

Hahaha why would we trade a better version of a key forward?

15 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

David Schwartz suggesting Dees go all out to get Max King - suggesting we could trade JVR for him! 
I don’t think so Mr Schwartz.

Loved Schwartz as a player but he does talk a lot of garbage at times.

4 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

The young players at the MFC are unsettled? Really? They're all getting opportunities and most starting to show their wares.

I know some of them were a bit shellshocked after a big post West Coast bake, but I haven't heard anything about being unsettled...

I think it’s more to do with the parents. I’ve not heard that it was/is a player(s). 

It’s probably pretty normal but there’s plenty of smoke around us at the moment. 

Edited July 3, 2024Jul 3 by george_on_the_outer

12 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

Loved Schwartz as a player but he does talk a lot of garbage at times.

I’d rather Waterman. King needs to be rebuilt. 

Schwarz is an awesome bloke and is a legend of the club but some of his observations aren’t the best.

1 hour ago, Neil Crompton said:

David Schwartz suggesting Dees go all out to get Max King - suggesting we could trade JVR for him! 
I don’t think so Mr Schwartz.

I wouldn't trade JVR for any other key forward. He will only get better. Has mongrel and is a good kick for goal.

1 hour ago, Neil Crompton said:

David Schwartz suggesting Dees go all out to get Max King - suggesting we could trade JVR for him! 
I don’t think so Mr Schwartz.

Wash your mouth out Schwartz!!!

On 23/06/2024 at 21:25, ChaserJ said:

Media types are speculating on his availability. It’s entirely possible that a couple of clubs clubs think they’re a chance and the chatter’s hit the industry. 
 

The thought of Clarry in another club’s colors makes me a little sick, but have a nagging feeling that this could gain momentum.

I sincerely doubt Clarry will go anywhere while Goody is coach. Besides we need more midfield grunt not less. Clarry loves the club and according to Richo the club has fallen back in love with Clarry. Just can’t see it happening.