7 hours ago, Binmans PA said:

A yes to Stengle for mine. He'd be ahead of Chandler.

If we do what I think we should do and revert to a forward half territory game, we need more x factor at ground level. It means slower entries become more dangerous if we get them to ground and repeat stoppages inside 50 would also face a better chance of being converted with more x factor.

Which is why I hope we also target Rachele.

IMV we've had a style that suits x factor smalls, which is why Kozzy has shone in our system. Problem we've had is we don't have any other x factor smalls.

I agree we should be looking at Stengle and Rachele was a player I also thought would suit our needs, possibly in an exchange with Petty (I think we would need to offer a bit more)would also take Richards from the Doggies in a heartbeat. I also agree we will revert to a forward half territory game however I am having none of the slow entries. Any forward especially your X factor players want quick entry into an open forward line with space to weave their magic with higher quality looks on goal. For me the less stoppages the better. If there is a team that has been the victim of mystery finger tips on shots on goal according to a score review it’s Melbourne, in particular ANB. Make no mistake about it a forwardline that is required to constantly run so high up the ground to defend and back, slow ball movement into congestion and kicks wide to a pocket is why we are so inaccurate in front of goals. Costing us games and possibly a premiership in 2023.

3 hours ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

I agree we should be looking at Stengle and Rachele was a player I also thought would suit our needs, possibly in an exchange with Petty (I think we would need to offer a bit more)would also take Richards from the Doggies in a heartbeat. I also agree we will revert to a forward half territory game however I am having none of the slow entries. Any forward especially your X factor players want quick entry into an open forward line with space to weave their magic with higher quality looks on goal. For me the less stoppages the better. If there is a team that has been the victim of mystery finger tips on shots on goal according to a score review it’s Melbourne, in particular ANB. Make no mistake about it a forwardline that is required to constantly run so high up the ground to defend and back, slow ball movement into congestion and kicks wide to a pocket is why we are so inaccurate in front of goals. Costing us games and possibly a premiership in 2023.

Slow entries are a fact of modern footy if you're playing a forward half game. It's being able to take a contested mark or bringing the ball to ground and then being dangerous from the ground ball.

7 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

Slow entries are a fact of modern footy if you're playing a forward half game. It's being able to take a contested mark or bringing the ball to ground and then being dangerous from the ground ball.

...and adding to that having high workrate tackling forwards to lock the ball in the 50.

 

Posted the below in the wrong thread:

Sorry but I wouldn’t touch him. Don’t care how good he has been recently, someone who is openly selling his soul to the highest bidder (if I’m not mistaken) cannot be good for our club, particularly our “culture”. I mean, the cats made him, he played in a premiership, and yet he wants to leave? Doesn’t sound like a teammate I could rely on to me. Some parallels to us and LJ, but LJ was just a babe, Stengel is 3 years older and knows what he is doing. It’s a big pass for me.

Moorabbin bound for sure.  He changed his name by deed poll today to Tyson St Engle.

2 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Posted the below in the wrong thread:

Sorry but I wouldn’t touch him. Don’t care how good he has been recently, someone who is openly selling his soul to the highest bidder (if I’m not mistaken) cannot be good for our club, particularly our “culture”. I mean, the cats made him, he played in a premiership, and yet he wants to leave? Doesn’t sound like a teammate I could rely on to me. Some parallels to us and LJ, but LJ was just a babe, Stengel is 3 years older and knows what he is doing. It’s a big pass for me.

He can kick goals, he would be an asset to our forward line, at the right price 

He may help the MFC to win a Flag. We should be heavily enquiring into this as a Business transaction. 

35 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He can kick goals, he would be an asset to our forward line, at the right price 

He may help the MFC to win a Flag. We should be heavily enquiring into this as a Business transaction. 

Interesting you mention the transactional basis. Not to be too angsty and re-open suppurating wounds but if this were true: Grundy would have been played in the finals (were it true that he was dropped as he’d walked the plank, so to speak). Arrrrrrr, time for a rum

18 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Interesting you mention the transactional basis. Not to be too angsty and re-open suppurating wounds but if this were true: Grundy would have been played in the finals (were it true that he was dropped as he’d walked the plank, so to speak). Arrrrrrr, time for a rum

Yes. He should have been picked in my opinion. He was a paid employee of the MFC…

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

I will ask my Grandson if he knows anything as he is in the saints footy dept.

1 hour ago, Neil Crompton said:

Posted the below in the wrong thread:

Sorry but I wouldn’t touch him. Don’t care how good he has been recently, someone who is openly selling his soul to the highest bidder (if I’m not mistaken) cannot be good for our club, particularly our “culture”. I mean, the cats made him, he played in a premiership, and yet he wants to leave? Doesn’t sound like a teammate I could rely on to me. Some parallels to us and LJ, but LJ was just a babe, Stengel is 3 years older and knows what he is doing. It’s a big pass for me.

He was a very important player as their best small forward in that premiership WHILE on the minimum afl wage. How dare he cash in to provide for his family, while his short lived career is at its peak. I'm not saying he's worth the price tag, but "selling his soul" is a bit much.

Edited June 21, 20241 yr by John Demonic

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

He can kick goals, he would be an asset to our forward line, at the right price 

He may help the MFC to win a Flag. We should be heavily enquiring into this as a Business transaction. 

What’s so hilarious @drysdale demon?

11 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

What’s so hilarious @drysdale demon?

Business transaction.

12 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Yes. He should have been picked in my opinion. He was a paid employee of the MFC…

Damn Rick Lever! Surely he has run out of sick leave already. Why is he doing work experience with Goddy in the box some weeks? 
 

🤩😳😳😂😂

On 14/06/2024 at 22:26, Demon Dynasty said:

👉🏼  Not enough dumby leads by non designated stay-at-home forwards in order to clear out the forward 50 for pack crashing / marking forwards and crumbers like JVR & Kozzy.

This has been one of my biggest complaints / observations for years - even way back when Ox and Neitz were there.    Always congested. 
Is it laziness or lack of coaching?   Carlton are doing it well. 

On 13/06/2024 at 10:20, drysdale demon said:

At the reported $800,000 the media are sprouting you could pick up a topline midfielder.

…. and can you name one who is gettable, please?

3 minutes ago, monoccular said:

…. and can you name one who is gettable, please?

LDU? Maybe. 

On 13/06/2024 at 10:20, drysdale demon said:

At the reported $800,000 the media are sprouting you could pick up a topline midfielder.

Topline mids aren’t what they used to be — the game has turned towards impact role players and will continue to in time 

31 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

LDU? Maybe. 

LDU is literally the perfect recruiting target for us imho! Whisky topline mids aren’t as vital as they once weee, what he’d allow by enabling our best role players like Nibbler, Kos to return to the fwd half is where he’d pay-off most. 
 

Whilst at same time also add some great inside lateral movement to get the ball to the outside! 

1 hour ago, monoccular said:

…. and can you name one who is gettable, please?

Wish I knew, that is the recruiting dept. job to find one but I would rather put the reported $800,000 towards a midfielder or a key forward.

1 hour ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Topline mids aren’t what they used to be — the game has turned towards impact role players and will continue to in time 

Role players are always important but midfielders are more so.

With the increased cap size I think we have to adjust for inflation with player salaries. $800k will very quickly become equivalent to $900k-$1M in the player exchange market.

LDU is probably making the smart call to hold off on making any decisions on his contract year till his FA year in ‘25. I’m not sure he can be extracted from the Roos this off season.

On 16/06/2024 at 06:59, Dee Viney Intervention said:

. If there is a team that has been the victim of mystery finger tips on shots on goal according to a score review it’s Melbourne, in particular ANB. 

Now that would be an interesting stat

4 hours ago, Demonsterative said:

LDU? Maybe. 

I guess we will get a good look at him tonight - maybe we will see how early he is locked down?  Hopefully?

6 hours ago, drysdale demon said:

Business transaction.

Taking into account his past history, there would need to be certain criteria written into any contract. 
nothing wrong with being diligent