CASEY: Rd 10 vs Coburg

[Older demon 2,741]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

What posters need to remember is Andy is direct from Darwin.

So no junior development pathway to speak of.

And defence is not part of the footy vocabulary up there.

And when he arrived he was like a stick with hair, similar to Jefferson who is also now beginning to look like an AFL player.

Because Andy had not settled into a position, which is the go in Darwin also, the club has had a blank canvas to work with

I believe in some closed training sessions he is thrown into the middle to give the AFL mids something different to look at.

Consistency is the key for him and he is beginning to show it in a team not travelling well.

As for the game Casey, which I watched live, were smashed at centre clearances and stoppages, too many got sucked in and Coburg got the ball out and were away.

Also the channelling back by the mids and fwds to support the defence was poor until the last qtr

 

Well said Saty. I am sure he is aware of what the club wants from him and the role he has to play. correct that we got flogged in the centre they had 51 to 33 clearances 3 guys had 9,8 +11 on their own our best was 5 for 4 players. Smashed in the rucks by a player playing in the Essendon district league last week who easily [ushed both our guys away.

Andy is putting together a nice parcel of week weekly

[BW511 2,673]

Pretty sure in the interview with JT he said Luker was injured, 2 weeks out from memory?

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,853]

3 hours ago, kozzyisalegend said:

Surely flyn gentile would've been a great mid season pick up for us

21 years old

Vice captain

State team

Averaging 27 touches

43 possies and 2.0 today

Would be ready made to come into the afl team tomorrow. Don't understand why we picked a guy averaging 10 possies and 7 hit outs a game when there's these vfl superstars up for grabs 

I better send an email to Jason Taylor tonight and let him know you're available as a recruiter @kozzyisalegend. He probably doesn't know that there are "vfl superstars up for grabs". Thanks for the tip.

[kozzyisalegend 152]

11 minutes ago, BW511 said:

Pretty sure in the interview with JT he said Luker was injured, 2 weeks out from memory?

That would make sense then. Would be bizarre if they were leaving him out for moving purposes. Hopefully he has a speedy recovery

[kallangurdemon 551]

1 hour ago, DiscoStu17 said:

Also, Verral absolutely slaughtered their ruck today

Are you being serious ?

[58er 6,458]

4 hours ago, kozzyisalegend said:

Surely flyn gentile would've been a great mid season pick up for us

21 years old

Vice captain

State team

Averaging 27 touches

43 possies and 2.0 today

Would be ready made to come into the afl team tomorrow. Don't understand why we picked a guy averaging 10 possies and 7 hit outs a game when there's these vfl superstars up for grabs 

You have to nominate!! 

[kozzyisalegend 152]

15 minutes ago, 58er said:

You have to nominate!! 

He did

[Earl Hood 6,086]

22 minutes ago, kallangurdemon said:

Are you being serious ?

I think they are being serious. Verral and Fullerton were made to look amateurish by the Coburg ruckman. When he wasn’t physically pushing them out of the contest to win the centre taps, he was grabbing it out of the air to handball to his mids or running forward to mark and kick goals. Then he got injured. On that performance we don’t have a back up for Max. 

[DiscoStu17 734]

26 minutes ago, kallangurdemon said:

Are you being serious ?

Look at when Casey #28 was rucking against Coburg #14.

They had to change their main ruck out after Verrall had 5-6 in a row. Their 2nd guy was just crash and bash - mainly against Fullarton as he was doing 70+% ruck time today. Thought you were there?

[MrFreeze 1,966]

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

What posters need to remember is Andy is direct from Darwin.

So no junior development pathway to speak of.

And defence is not part of the footy vocabulary up there.

And when he arrived he was like a stick with hair, similar to Jefferson who is also now beginning to look like an AFL player.

Because Andy had not settled into a position, which is the go in Darwin also, the club has had a blank canvas to work with

I believe in some closed training sessions he is thrown into the middle to give the AFL mids something different to look at.

Consistency is the key for him and he is beginning to show it in a team not travelling well.

As for the game Casey, which I watched live, were smashed at centre clearances and stoppages, too many got sucked in and Coburg got the ball out and were away.

Also the channelling back by the mids and fwds to support the defence was poor until the last qtr

 

Great insight, thank ya Saty good to see you around these parts

[kallangurdemon 551]

No

4 minutes ago, DiscoStu17 said:

hought you were there

No I watched it on the AFL feed .If Verrall slaughtered Podhajski then the AFL feed must have used trick cameras because what I saw was diametrically opposite to your claim .it was a man against boys for both Verrall and Fullarton .

[Redleg 40,946]

4 hours ago, Cranky Franky said:

Agree George.  It's depressing seeing Verrall & Fullerton getting consistently beaten in the VFL by "good ordinary" VFL standard ruckmen.

Heaven help us if Max gets injured.

Verrall is 19 isn’t he?

I have said he will be an LJ type not a Max type.

[Redleg 40,946]

3 hours ago, kozzyisalegend said:

As I said before. He would've been told he is a good chance to be drafted by Melbourne,  and if so that he'd be staying with koltyn. To not play him if he is fit is astounding 

 

Jacob blight is from peel and is currently playing for the Richmond 2s

Settle down.

Playing this week will have absolutely no bearing on his future with us.

May have had things to sort out before he moves his life across the country.

[Redleg 40,946]

3 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

What posters need to remember is Andy is direct from Darwin.

So no junior development pathway to speak of.

And defence is not part of the footy vocabulary up there.

And when he arrived he was like a stick with hair, similar to Jefferson who is also now beginning to look like an AFL player.

Because Andy had not settled into a position, which is the go in Darwin also, the club has had a blank canvas to work with

I believe in some closed training sessions he is thrown into the middle to give the AFL mids something different to look at.

Consistency is the key for him and he is beginning to show it in a team not travelling well.

As for the game Casey, which I watched live, were smashed at centre clearances and stoppages, too many got sucked in and Coburg got the ball out and were away.

Also the channelling back by the mids and fwds to support the defence was poor until the last qtr

 

Good post Saty.

I didn’t think AMW had any chance of playing at AFL level, but have changed my opinion this season, after his much improved play.

[kozzyisalegend 152]

11 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Settle down.

Playing this week will have absolutely no bearing on his future with us.

May have had things to sort out before he moves his life across the country.

No, he was injured. And yes every game he can play is crucial for his development as he is very raw

[Redleg 40,946]

4 minutes ago, kozzyisalegend said:

No, he was injured. And yes every game he can play is crucial for his development as he is very raw

So he has moved but is out injured. Ok.

I disagree that missing playing today, not knowing any game plan, hardly knowing his team mates and with a below AFL level fitness, was “crucial “ to his development.

Edited June 1 by Redleg

[monoccular 17,432]

4 hours ago, MrFreeze said:

My thoughts 

AMW - Showed some spark today, when he got involved we often were able to move the ball into the f50 through the corridor. Reminds of Rivers, breaks lines, runs and carries and defends well in the air and on the ground. Ball use was not great but overall Casey did not function well as a team so my judgement is not harsh on him, he had little support. 

Howes - Really lacks intensity but had some moments. To be honest, i did not notice him until the 3rd quarter. 

Jed Adams - Puts his body on the line and had some big marks in defense today. 

Kynan / Sestan / Tholstrup - All 3 boys played a lot of time in the midfield but they're all half-forwards. Kolt showed the most out of the 3 today IMO. Would much prefer Kynan being stationed at HF to play the traditional ANB role. Horses for courses atm as the Casey midfield is bare. 

Jefferson - Looked strong, fast and aggressive today. Limited supply but i see the development. 

Laurie - Just not up to it. Very disappointing. 0 damage and he does not defend well. 

Verrel - Rucked okay, nothing notable. 

Fullarton - First time seeing him play in person and my worst fears were confirmed. He is allergic to contact. Did not see him affect an arial contest once. Great leap but often mistimed his jumps both in the ruck and when attempting to mark. 

By all reports (haven’t seen a 
Casey game this year) AMW is starting to knock the door down.   Hope he gets a gig soon - he could be a risk of itchy feet if he doesn’t.  
 

Sadly Fullarton doesn’t seem to have been a worthwhile trade - if he cannot get a game as a forward / ruck back up when we right now are in dire need of both  then surely he never will. 

[kozzyisalegend 152]

9 minutes ago, Redleg said:

So he has moved but is out injured. Ok.

I disagree that missing playing today, not knowing any game plan, hardly knowing his team mates and with a below AFL level fitness, was “crucial “ to his development.

Might as well not play for the whole year then

[Redleg 40,946]

1 minute ago, kozzyisalegend said:

Might as well not play for the whole year then

Or ever again, if you want to resort to silliness, instead of a sensible discussion about one game for Casey missed being “ crucial “ to his football development as you posted.

You win I’m out.

 

[Nascent 9,216]

Best players according to play hq.

White, Adams, Laurie, Neocleous, Steele, Edwards

[kozzyisalegend 152]

Just now, Nascent said:

Best players according to play hq.

White, Adams, Laurie, Neocleous, Steele, Edwards

Best players according to me (mfc listed)

1. Adams

2. Jefferson

3. Moniz Wakefield

[dazzledavey36 54,955]

5 hours ago, MrFreeze said:

My thoughts 

AMW - Showed some spark today, when he got involved we often were able to move the ball into the f50 through the corridor. Reminds of Rivers, breaks lines, runs and carries and defends well in the air and on the ground. Ball use was not great but overall Casey did not function well as a team so my judgement is not harsh on him, he had little support. 

Howes - Really lacks intensity but had some moments. To be honest, i did not notice him until the 3rd quarter. 

Jed Adams - Puts his body on the line and had some big marks in defense today. 

Kynan / Sestan / Tholstrup - All 3 boys played a lot of time in the midfield but they're all half-forwards. Kolt showed the most out of the 3 today IMO. Would much prefer Kynan being stationed at HF to play the traditional ANB role. Horses for courses atm as the Casey midfield is bare. 

Jefferson - Looked strong, fast and aggressive today. Limited supply but i see the development. 

Laurie - Just not up to it. Very disappointing. 0 damage and he does not defend well. 

Verrel - Rucked okay, nothing notable. 

Fullarton - First time seeing him play in person and my worst fears were confirmed. He is allergic to contact. Did not see him affect an arial contest once. Great leap but often mistimed his jumps both in the ruck and when attempting to mark. 

Said it a while back, Fullarton is pretty much another Schache clone but probably hates physical contact even more.

The recruitment never made sense from the very start. Go read all the Brisbane fans comments on bigfooty when he left and they were celebrating his departure. 

Can't believe we signed him to a 2 year deal.

[ElDiablo14 5,000]

15 hours ago, MrFreeze said:

My thoughts 

AMW - Showed some spark today, when he got involved we often were able to move the ball into the f50 through the corridor. Reminds of Rivers, breaks lines, runs and carries and defends well in the air and on the ground. Ball use was not great but overall Casey did not function well as a team so my judgement is not harsh on him, he had little support. 

Howes - Really lacks intensity but had some moments. To be honest, i did not notice him until the 3rd quarter. 

Jed Adams - Puts his body on the line and had some big marks in defense today. 

Kynan / Sestan / Tholstrup - All 3 boys played a lot of time in the midfield but they're all half-forwards. Kolt showed the most out of the 3 today IMO. Would much prefer Kynan being stationed at HF to play the traditional ANB role. Horses for courses atm as the Casey midfield is bare. 

Jefferson - Looked strong, fast and aggressive today. Limited supply but i see the development. 

Laurie - Just not up to it. Very disappointing. 0 damage and he does not defend well. 

Verrel - Rucked okay, nothing notable. 

Fullarton - First time seeing him play in person and my worst fears were confirmed. He is allergic to contact. Did not see him affect an arial contest once. Great leap but often mistimed his jumps both in the ruck and when attempting to mark. 

Fullarton is Schache 2.0?

[MrFreeze 1,966]

10 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Said it a while back, Fullarton is pretty much another Schache clone but probably hates physical contact even more.

The recruitment never made sense from the very start. Go read all the Brisbane fans comments on bigfooty when he left and they were celebrating his departure. 

Can't believe we signed him to a 2 year deal.

Absolutely agree, we have both been on the same page since day dot on this one.

I think the FD were taking a punt on a Luke Jackson 'style' player. With boys being having basketball backgrounds, very athletic with great a leap. However Fullarton has no love for the contest and very little craft.

It also has created a very bizzare team balance issue at Casey that now we are supposed to have (if fit) all of Fullarton, Jefferson, Schache BBrown and Luker K all in the same forward line. 

[ElDiablo14 5,000]

10 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Said it a while back, Fullarton is pretty much another Schache clone but probably hates physical contact even more.

The recruitment never made sense from the very start. Go read all the Brisbane fans comments on bigfooty when he left and they were celebrating his departure. 

Can't believe we signed him to a 2 year deal.

Desperate times, unfortunately we lost our future ruckman in Jackson.