POSTGAME: Rd 05 vs Brisbane

[Gawndy the Great 7,678]

15 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

Can I also say we lost to a team that were runners up last year. Brisbane aren't a terrible team. They may have started badly but you know at some point they'd improve. 

 

And that makes the loss more acceptable? That gives you hope that we are a shot?

We got categorically pantsed. Once upon a time we lived free in their heads. That lasted for 1 year, the adapted and evolved. For the other 5/6 years they have been a level above. 
 

If we cannot beat this team on our home deck, then we have no shot. Not in the way we lost today. 

Edited April 11 by Gawndy the Great

[Dannyz 2,345]

15 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

What did he do?

Crying eyes gesture towards Petts

[picket fence 15,480]

6 minutes ago, Doug Reemer said:

Petty has one arm inside of an Adelaide Crows jumper. 
 

It’s clear as day!

Um no great loss, just ensure we get great draft picks

[Gawndy the Great 7,678]

6 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Why can't they start say in the third quarter? Boggles the mind that the pride of this team only comes out once we are 7 goals down.

Coz lions took foot off the pedal. The game was done. 

[picket fence 15,480]

Just now, Dannyz said:

Crying eyes gesture towards Petts

Is that all???

[Jaded No More 58,886]

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Watch this and other replays closely! 

I’ve watched him kick 6 in a prelim and lift a premiership cup and wear 6 AA jackets. 

We won hit outs tonight 58 to 27 ffs. You really think Gawn is the reason we lost?

Name a better ruckman in the AFL right now. I’ll wait. 

[At the break of Gawn 3,617]

9 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

It’s overcome with pressure. That’s why it doesn’t stand up in finals. 

Stood up in the ‘22 SF for them.

Since belting them at the GABBA in rnd 23 2022 they’ve had our measure.

[titan_uranus 22,731]

That was the worst midfield game we’ve played in probably 4 years. To hold them to 22 scoring shots and 82 points is actually a good performance all told given how utterly awful we were at contest and clearance to three quarter time. 

I doubt we’ll ever see Oliver, Trac and Viney collectively play that poorly again. I sure hope we don’t. Oliver clearly isn’t fit and we conceded that by shifting him to half back; we had to get him out of the stoppages. Viney reverted to old Viney, no awareness and too many ill advised attempts to break tackles. And I would not be surprised if Trac is injured. Couple that with our opponent having an elite midfield and then all of them firing and you end up with us being wholly unable to play the game on our terms. 

Windsor looked to hit a bit of a wall, Howes was poor, Billings was poor and Kolt’s clearly not ready for this level, so that middle third of the ground was just so bad. 

I’m inclined to write it off as a mulligan, but we have a major midfield/stoppage problem that wasn’t just an issue tonight but has been evident all year. Rivers looked good there late so I’d like to see that continue. 

[Golly123 10]

My biggest dissatisfaction was seeing hairstyles take short steps on a few occasions.

[Ungarieboy 358]

The umpiring was terrible, we were worse!

An on the holding the ball decisions - it did seem a bit one sided; but then again only one side was tackling!!!

[picket fence 15,480]

Just now, Jaded No More said:

I’ve watched him kick 6 in a prelim and lift a premiership cup and wear 6 AA jackets. 

We won hit outs tonight 58 to 27 ffs. You really think Gawn is the reason we lost?

Name a better ruckman in the AFL right now. I’ll wait. 

Um, not questioning his creds, just his Ruck craft at centre bounces its either

A Smash it forward

B Grab it outa the ruck and kick it forward

C Hit to opposition

Now go back over replays and then get back to me!

[layzie 29,620]

7 minutes ago, picket fence said:

EXACTLY! Max is an overated ruckman! At Centre bounces!!  Great Mark, great around the ground, but a dare I say it... poor centre bounce ruck! Thought this for a while, just check his stats, and not just today!

Come on man he battled hard tonight. Things didn't go his way but on another night with better midfield performance that game would be a decent one.

[Gawndy the Great 7,678]

2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I’ve watched him kick 6 in a prelim and lift a premiership cup and wear 6 AA jackets. 

We won hit outs tonight 58 to 27 ffs. You really think Gawn is the reason we lost?

Name a better ruckman in the AFL right now. I’ll wait. 

He gets shanked too easily. Whether that’s on him or the mids I don’t know. 
 

But he has to hit the ball to advantage. Too many times our players are wrong footed. 

[Gunna’s 1,906]

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Watch this and other replays closely! 

Do you think it is Max or the mids? 
I agree his taps are sharked to often. Is it his predictability to tap to a time (ie centre circle clock) or our mids play flat footed and don’t use their body to protect space?

[demon3165 2,045]

6 minutes ago, picket fence said:

EXACTLY! Max is an overated ruckman! At Centre bounces!!  Great Mark, great around the ground, but a dare I say it... poor centre bounce ruck! Thought this for a while, just check his stats, and not just today!

You are correct on his centre bounces work, he either let's the opposition jump into him and doesn't correct it or just goes for the punch and tonight showed it up, it caught the midfield out as they seemed to not know what he was doing.

[picket fence 15,480]

1 minute ago, demon3165 said:

You are correct on his centre bounces work, he either let's the opposition jump into him and doesn't correct it or just goes for the punch and tonight showed it up, it caught the midfield out as they seemed to not know what he was doing.

Thank you! Now how to fix it??

[demon3165 2,045]

6 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I’ve watched him kick 6 in a prelim and lift a premiership cup and wear 6 AA jackets. 

We won hit outs tonight 58 to 27 ffs. You really think Gawn is the reason we lost?

Name a better ruckman in the AFL right now. I’ll wait. 

There you go throwing stats out, watch the game again where they went and how the lions benefited them.

[fr_ap 2,160]

5 minutes ago, Golly123 said:

My biggest dissatisfaction was seeing hairstyles take short steps on a few occasions.

Yeah. Not what I expected from him. Prepared to excuse a poor debut - Petty's is still the worst I've ever seen - but he looked completely unsure about when to go or when to stay. Shouldn't have played, potentially harmful to his development. Needs time at Casey to learn. 

I know Laurie hasn't blown us away but is the closest positionally to what Koz provides ...has been around....has dominated vfl and put in a massive pre season. He deserved the chance. Poor decision to give Kolt the debut. 

[Billy 2,026]

Why oh why did Oliver play tonight? 
He was clearly hampered last week & clearly worse tonight

Champs will always want to play, he clearly needs a couple of weeks off

[layzie 29,620]

14 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Doubt anyone who actually watched the game is thinking that margin reflects the results. We were comprehensively beaten by a side that played much better football. 
Last week Norf went down by 70. I rather not see that from my team. 

There's not a game in the current climate where I'd expect to lose to Brisbane by 70. 

Maybe when we're a bottom 4 team again like North sure, but some kind of fightback was very much expected in this game.

Edited April 11 by layzie

[dee-tox 4,829]

Lost the midfield 

Lost the 50/50 battles

Lost Salem, an important cog.

Lost the important free kicks.

Three talls in forward line didn't work.

Our kids looked like kids against mature bodies.

 

[Demonsone 1,640]

The amount of times there wasn’t any talls in the fwd line .. unbelievable 

[Diamond_Jim 11,995]

Zero excuse for that performance.

They owe us one

[Billy 2,026]

4 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Thank you! Now how to fix it??

Just because one person agrees with you doesn’t mean you’re right.

[Jaded No More 58,886]

3 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

There you go throwing stats out, watch the game again where they went and how the lions benefited them.

So it’s Max’s job to stop 3 Brisbane on ballers from reading his taps? Or is it the job of our 3 on ballers to get their hands on the footy?

If our mids can’t read Max’s taps, then heaven help us. They’ve played together long enough.