Laurie Extends for 2 More Years

[Demon Disciple 12,313]

I’m not a Laurie fan, but he needs to be given a good run of games in the AFL to see if he will make it instead of dropping him after 1 game, playing him in the VFL for another 3 before getting a call up, only to be dropped again.

Thats on Goodwin and his inability to properly develop players.

[Little Richard 6,265]

Not entirely sure why but I can see Laurie coming along next year. One of those players that it may well just 'click' for.

[Redleg 41,717]

3 minutes ago, Little Richard said:

Not entirely sure why but I can see Laurie coming along next year. 

I don’t. 

[Little Richard 6,265]

1 minute ago, Redleg said:

I don’t. 

Ok

[DiscoStu17 809]

Poor bugger really needs some consecutive games. 

[DeeSpencer 26,091]

7 minutes ago, Little Richard said:

Not entirely sure why but I can see Laurie coming along next year. One of those players that it may well just 'click' for.

He can get fitter and stronger, he can get more composed with the ball, the team can move the ball faster to find him in space.

But will it matter if he’s still short and insanely slow?

It’s just a physical package that doesn’t make sense. 

If he adds bulk to play as a mid and win more contested ball he’ll just get slower?

If he trims right up to cover the ground he’ll be still be slow with the bonus of also being light. 

[Fat Tony 5,291]

27 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

I’m not a Laurie fan, but he needs to be given a good run of games in the AFL to see if he will make it instead of dropping him after 1 game, playing him in the VFL for another 3 before getting a call up, only to be dropped again.

Thats on Goodwin and his inability to properly develop players.

Goodwin can't properly develop players?

McVee, Rivers, Pickett, Windsor, Turner, JVR, Tholstrup, Bowey, Jackson, Howes, Chandler, Petty, Fritsch, Spargo, ANB, Hunt would beg to differ.

[Demonsterative 3,020]

4 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Goodwin can't properly develop players?

McVee, Rivers, Pickett, Windsor, Turner, JVR, Tholstrup, Bowey, Jackson, Howes, Chandler, Petty, Fritsch, Spargo, ANB, Hunt would beg to differ.

Trac, Clarry, Max, May, Lever plus more. 

[Buzzy 992]

We're that desperate for depth, we have no choice but to keep him.

[stinga 596]

49 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

He can get fitter and stronger, he can get more composed with the ball, the team can move the ball faster to find him in space.

But will it matter if he’s still short and insanely slow?

It’s just a physical package that doesn’t make sense. 

If he adds bulk to play as a mid and win more contested ball he’ll just get slower?

If he trims right up to cover the ground he’ll be still be slow with the bonus of also being light. 

Agree.  He'll make a good average player, and that's not unkind as you need that type to fill gaps.  But you need that x factor to be really good if you don't have height or pace.  At he extreme end a guy like Caleb Daniel got a lot of the ball and never missed targets although age has caught up with that.  And because of that you don't get a lot of time to show you have it, simply because you are competing with a lot of similar types.   I hope he develops something special next year.

[DiscoStu17 809]

4 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

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Footnote …His turnover last night was horrible … when running free with 3 free demons players , he kicked it straight to Pies player (they went back up the field to kick a goal) !! 

Pretty sure that was caused by the forward (JVR??) deciding to double back towards the pocket, just as Laurie committed to the kick.

Forwards would usually lead at the ball carrier  

As someone else said, difficult to know what your forwards are going to do if you only get half a game at a time.

[Redleg 41,717]

17 hours ago, DiscoStu17 said:

Pretty sure that was caused by the forward (JVR??) deciding to double back towards the pocket, just as Laurie committed to the kick.

 

 

That’s not what I saw.

When he released the ball without pressure, he had the Pies player in front of him and kicked it straight to him.

Edited August 24, 2024 by Redleg

[spirit of norm smith 16,596]

17 hours ago, DiscoStu17 said:

Pretty sure that was caused by the forward (JVR??) deciding to double back towards the pocket, just as Laurie committed to the kick.

Forwards would usually lead at the ball carrier  

As someone else said, difficult to know what your forwards are going to do if you only get half a game at a time.

Different game ??  Laurie runs free and kicks without pressure… straight to the Pies player right in front of him. No forward error.  Laurie kicked it straight to the Pies player. Horrendous turnover.  

[dazzledavey36 55,453]

19 hours ago, Little Richard said:

Not entirely sure why but I can see Laurie coming along next year. One of those players that it may well just 'click' for.

So do I.

[Nascent 9,299]

3 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Different game ??  Laurie runs free and kicks without pressure… straight to the Pies player right in front of him. No forward error.  Laurie kicked it straight to the Pies player. Horrendous turnover.  

Every player turned the ball over horribly on Friday, turnovers are a part of the game. You can't expect perfection, particularly in the conditions they played in.

Any comments on what he did well? Like him beating both Daicos brothers and sidebottom at the ground ball contest and gettingthe clearing handball to ANB? His in-board left kick showing his ability to be dual sided? Or his handball to Viney resulting in a centre clearance. All in the highlights below.

Check out Bailey Laurie's Highlights from MELB v COLL, Rd 24 2024
https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Watch/CD_I1012826/CD_M20240142406

FYI I don't think he's best 22, but I think he should be pushing hard for it next year.

And just on that turnover after watching it again, Petty looked flat footed and neither committing to a lead forward or back. Kicking error is still on Laurie but I don't blame him for trying to draw him to the ball rather than kick it 55+ over the top in the rain.

Edit: not sure why the link doesn't take you to the highlights but can be found via the AFL app

Edited August 25, 2024 by Nascent

[layzie 34,122]

Why didn't he play more games this year? I know he should be given a chance but it doesn't feel right jumping off Woewodin without giving him an extended run but then saying it's exactly what Laurie needs.

Make or break next year.

[Nascent 9,299]

6 minutes ago, layzie said:

Why didn't he play more games this year? I know he should be given a chance but it doesn't feel right jumping off Woewodin without giving him an extended run but then saying it's exactly what Laurie needs.

Make or break next year.

Woewodin played 16 (10 as sub) games this year, Laurie played 6 (3 as sub). We don't have to jump off either but both clearly have flaws in their game that have prevented them from cementing a best 22 spot.

[layzie 34,122]

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

Woewodin played 16 (10 as sub) games this year, Laurie played 6 (3 as sub). We don't have to jump off either but both clearly have flaws in their game that have prevented them from cementing a best 22 spot.

I saw most of the Taj subs into games this year as equivalent to a soccer game bringing someone on with 5 minutes left. It shows very little of what someone is capable of and does little for their development.

Both definitely have flaws but I hope the people hoping Laurie gets a run will be fair to some of these others.

[Nascent 9,299]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

I saw most of the Taj subs into games this year as equivalent to a soccer game bringing someone on with 5 minutes left. It shows very little of what someone is capable of and does little for their development.

Both definitely have flaws but I hope the people hoping Laurie gets a run will be fair to some of these others.

Don't disagree. I strongly dislike the sub role in general.

Hoping we see improvements out of Laurie, Woewy, K Brown and AMW inside the 22 next year.

[roy11 3,894]

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

Every player turned the ball over horribly on Friday, turnovers are a part of the game. You can't expect perfection, particularly in the conditions they played in.

Any comments on what he did well? Like him beating both Daicos brothers and sidebottom at the ground ball contest and gettingthe clearing handball to ANB? His in-board left kick showing his ability to be dual sided? Or his handball to Viney resulting in a centre clearance. All in the highlights below.

Check out Bailey Laurie's Highlights from MELB v COLL, Rd 24 2024
https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/Watch/CD_I1012826/CD_M20240142406

FYI I don't think he's best 22, but I think he should be pushing hard for it next year.

And just on that turnover after watching it again, Petty looked flat footed and neither committing to a lead forward or back. Kicking error is still on Laurie but I don't blame him for trying to draw him to the ball rather than kick it 55+ over the top in the rain.

Edit: not sure why the link doesn't take you to the highlights but can be found via the AFL app

Some of the decisions and execution towards the end of our transitional play Friday night was diabolical. Laurie definitely not alone there.

It's not surprising we struggled on Friday given no Trac, Oliver, Sparrow, Spargo, Windsor (and Brayshaw), the depth players will struggle to cover that in the middle of the ground.

Even if Laurie is not Best 22 in Season2025 i still think he's adequate depth. I don't think he'll get a consistent run of games with us and probably will be a depth player, which all clubs need. 

[dimmy 1,308]

9 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Different game ??  Laurie runs free and kicks without pressure… straight to the Pies player right in front of him. No forward error.  Laurie kicked it straight to the Pies player. Horrendous turnover.  

So that determines his whole career ???