Hogan should get a week and Greene will be out. Ralph reckons just a week which is crazy

On 15/04/2024 at 11:00, Jaded No More said:

Further proof that the AFL protects high profile players and Brownlow hopefuls 

If this same action was done by a nobody, say I dunno Hunter, it would result in suspension. And has.

 

Cripps won his Brownlow after Blues got legal eagles involved

Either Greene gets off or goes for 4 weeks similar to Wright. Why does the MRO continually put itself in the spotlight? 

if toby hadn't turned his body, what do you think would have happened?

there would certainly still have been a collision

it might have been worse for boyd

2 players might have been injured

as it was, boyd had minimal hurt, so does this mean toby made the right decision?

this is a very, very difficult one

and finally, was it accidental or careless

you be the judge

58 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

if toby hadn't turned his body, what do you think would have happened?

there would certainly still have been a collision

it might have been worse for boyd

2 players might have been injured

as it was, boyd had minimal hurt, so does this mean toby made the right decision?

this is a very, very difficult one

and finally, was it accidental or careless

you be the judge

I think he can turn his body but he needs to still watch the ball. 

6 hours ago, DubDee said:

Hogan should get a week and Greene will be out. Ralph reckons just a week which is crazy

Brisbane player last night jumped in the air and collected someone in the head - can't remember who, did anyone see it? Must get a week going by Kozzies suspension.

17 hours ago, DubDee said:

Hogan should get a week and Greene will be out. Ralph reckons just a week which is crazy

I’m surprised Hogan only got one week. Hogan and the Carlton doctors don’t have a good relationship.

Surely everyone can see Jesse Hogan is a good bloke.

17 minutes ago, GM11 said:

Surely everyone can see Jesse Hogan is a good bloke.

Yes, and Toby hasn’t been suspended since the Covid era. Challenge!!!

I didn’t think Hogan’s slap was any worse than several others that have got fines or completely let off.

It was retaliation, other player wasn’t hurt and it appeared a reflex action more than a deliberate attack.

1 week for Toby was a gift, potential to injure was high.

12 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

I think he can turn his body but he needs to still watch the ball. 

I haven't looked closely at the Greene incident, but I disagree with the must 'watch the ball' line.  That was conceived I think to penalise a player lining up another player never having any intention to get the ball, only to clobber the opponent. 

But it is possible to initially go for the ball, realise that you won't get there, check where the oppo is and then take some measure to protect yourself and the oppponent.  It's that last bit that need to be focussed on.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

So they should.

4 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

They shouldn't.

8 minutes ago, Redleg said:

So they should.

I disagree on this one. Hit him in the face off the ball. Has to be a week suspension.

6 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I disagree on this one. Hit him in the face off the ball. Has to be a week suspension.

They'll have that hit on L.Neale that got him the face as precedent. The AFL digs themselves holes that they cannot get of. 

Make the rules simple. Any punch, jumper push, closed fist, open hand...to any part of the body is automatic 1 week minimum. Then you can have grades that can increase the sentence based on severity and potential to cause injury. 

I am more convinced now than ever, that the AFL deliberately leave in these loop holes to allow for wiggle room to let off certain players/clubs. I mean the entire commission and senior leadership at the AFL are freakin lawyers.

Edited April 22, 20241 yr by Gawndy the Great

I love the detail that the ball actually bounces off Greene's shoulder. He has literally stopped going for the ball out of fear of impact, and then barrelled into the much more vulnerable opponent's head.

He chose to bump instead of contest the ball.

If that isn't a simple one for the MRO then they are in serious trouble.

10 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

They'll have that hit on L.Neale that got him the face as precedent. The AFL digs themselves holes that they cannot get of. 

Make the rules simple. Any punch, jumper push, closed fist, open hand...to any part of the body is automatic 1 week minimum. Then you can have grades that can increase the sentence based on severity and potential to cause injury. 

I am more convinced now than ever, that the AFL deliberately leave in these loop holes to allow for wiggle room to let off certain players/clubs. I mean the entire commission and senior leadership at the AFL are freakin lawyers.

Neale was hit in the stomach wasn't he? Personally I'm comfortable if any off the ball stuff like what Pendlebury did is given a week. It's just not needed in the game.

 

6 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

I love the detail that the ball actually bounces off Greene's shoulder. He has literally stopped going for the ball out of fear of impact, and then barrelled into the much more vulnerable opponent's head.

He chose to bump instead of contest the ball.

If that isn't a simple one for the MRO then they are in serious trouble.

The MRO gave it a week, it's now up to the tribunal.

Hope the AFL are happy. They are so hopelessly inconsistent in their rulings that every suspension is getting challenged. why not spin the wheel of mayhem?!

12 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Neale was hit in the stomach wasn't he? Personally I'm comfortable if any off the ball stuff like what Pendlebury did is given a week. It's just not needed in the game.

There was another one earlier on in the season. Cannot remember precisely who it was, but a player went to push, made contact with the shoulder/chin of Neale. 

I remember because Neale made a meal out of the contact, making sure everybody noticed it.

9 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Hope the AFL are happy. They are so hopelessly inconsistent in their rulings that every suspension is getting challenged. why not spin the wheel of mayhem?!

Excellent idea.  Player spins the wheel to determine his own penalty. 

It's a TV ratings bonanza waiting to happen 

GWS are quite clever in challenging. 

Given recent miraculous outcomes, you might as well challenge anything/everything.