Angus Brayshaw Forced into Retirement

[Nicko 1,382]

6 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

the Slobinator really Knows how to push my buttons.

Exactly how I felt when I read that but didn’t know how to post my feelings eloquently….

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,708]

6 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

I’m still confused by the language and the vastly different descriptions of exactly how Gus’s ‘retirement’ panned out.

Was it a forced retirement where the AFL said that he had to be medically retired, or was it completely Brayshaw’s decision?

I have heard both of these scenarios described in the media.  If it was the AFL’s call, then he should be paid entirely outside of the cap.

 

It was Gus' physician who told him it's in his best interests for his life going forward to retire.

How can you tell our club to pay his salary inside the cap when he's been medically retired by a coward dog after years without being concussed.

 

 

[chookrat 4,268]

3 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Re. Brayshaw’s payout;

”Fellow AFL 360 co-host Mark Robinson called for the funds to be taken from inside Melbourne’s salary cap.”

And then he goes on to qualify that with;

“My gut feel is if you sign someone to a long-term deal – I don’t want to be flippant about this but unless someone passes or literally can’t play football beyond circumstances it should go in the cap.”

ummm is being forced to medically retire pretty much exactly “can’t play football beyond circumstances”?

 

the Slobinator really Knows how to push my buttons.

 

 

I think in a round about way Robbo is actually arguing the case for Gus's contract to be paid outside of the cap.

[The Jackson FIX 3,210]

14 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I think in a round about way Robbo is actually arguing the case for Gus's contract to be paid outside of the cap.

I’m not sure he is capable of reverse psychology… in fact I’m not even convinced he knows which player he is talking about here

[picket fence 17,498]

The way I feel, I'd love to find a way to smuggle deep inside the filth cheer squad, reveal my Melbourne gear and absolutely give it all guns Blazing to Maynard! Or am I delusional ? Anyone else would be more than welcome to join!

 

Edited March 13 by picket fence

[leave it to deever 17,517]

Sorry if it's been covered before.

Was Gus actually told by someone that he can't legally play or did he decide based on medical advice?

If the former who decides?

The club by advice from Drs?

Insurance company?

Afls board?

Cheers.

[leave it to deever 17,517]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

The way I feel, I'd love to find a way to smuggle deep inside the filth cheer squad, reveal my Melbourne gear and absolutely give it all guns Blazing to Maynard! Or am I delusional ? Anyone else would be more than welcome to join!

 

You probably wouldn't get out alive but you'd go down doing a good deed. Maybe if there were enough of us but I know I'd puke if I had to wear pies gear for even a second.

Best of luck mate. I admire you taking one for the team.

We will always speak fondly of you here.

Edited March 13 by leave it to deever

[John Demonic 5,850]

Just Imagine how emotional Robbo would be if it was Zack Merrett. Not only back then,  but 6 months later now when discussing this media retirement topic. Instead he's cold and dispassionate (for once) to the suffering Gus has gone through. The bloke gets his knickers in a twist about anything else.

Could say the same about the rest of the media. If it was Daicos taken out and medically retired, how is McGuire arguing about whether it comes out of the cap or not, today? He would've erupted then and would still be erupting, flushed like a red tomato.  Lloyd and Merrett? L Mathews and Lachie Neale. Kornes and Rozee, Caro and Dustin Martin. All of these pr1cks would change their tune about the suspension and the cap talk, if it happened to their own player/club. 

Instead it's remarkably quiet. Very Elephant in the Roomy.

 

You'll have to excuse me, I saw the incident again and saw that thug veer towards him. Roused me again into anger.

 

Edited March 13 by John Demonic

[Redleg 41,427]

43 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Sorry if it's been covered before.

Was Gus actually told by someone that he can't legally play or did he decide based on medical advice?

If the former who decides?

The club by advice from Drs?

Insurance company?

Afls board?

Cheers.

Even the announcement from the MFC in op says “”will be medically retired effective immediately “ not, “on Doctors advice Gus has decided to retire.”

I have seen it in a few places, the decision was made by others.

[Redleg 41,427]

17 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Just Imagine how emotional Robbo would be if it was Zack Merrett. Not only back then,  but 6 months later now when discussing this media retirement topic. Instead he's cold and dispassionate (for once) to the suffering Gus has gone through. The bloke gets his knickers in a twist about anything else.

Could say the same about the rest of the media. If it was Daicos taken out and medically retired, how is McGuire arguing about whether it comes out of the cap or not, today? He would've erupted then and would still be erupting, flushed like a red tomato.  Lloyd and Merrett? L Mathews and Lachie Neale. Kornes and Rozee, Caro and Dustin Martin. All of these pr1cks would change their tune about the suspension and the cap talk, if it happened to their own player/club. 

Instead it's remarkably quiet. Very Elephant in the Roomy.

 

You'll have to excuse me, I saw the incident again and saw that thug veer towards him. Roused me again.

 

How does Eddie’s cheering In a restaurant for Maynard getting off look now?

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

My view is if Brayshaw has acted on private medical advice, he forfeit's his contract ( unless there are specific provisions in his contract) and is ultimately able to draw down on insurance and other non salary cap related pay outs. .

If his retirement was forced by the AFL then frankly we shouldn’t be held liable and the AFL should exclude any payout from the salary cap.
 

So in both cases I don’t think there is much that MFC is liable for. 

[picket fence 17,498]

1 hour ago, leave it to deever said:

You probably wouldn't get out alive but you'd go down doing a good deed. Maybe if there were enough of us but I know I'd puke if I had to wear pies gear for even a second.

Best of luck mate. I admire you taking one for the team.

We will always speak fondly of you here.

So , obviously you arent expecting a good outcome then,? What about if I smuggled in a bag of slitheras and discretely left the bag open and scarpered away, sledging Maynard, as I left?? GEEZUS i'm talking like a demented man now!🥴

[leave it to deever 17,517]

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Even the announcement from the MFC in op says “”will be medically retired effective immediately “ not, “on Doctors advice Gus has decided to retire.”

I have seen it in a few places, the decision was made by others.

I wonder if players have to pass a medical insurance review or is this a silly thought?

[leave it to deever 17,517]

5 minutes ago, picket fence said:

So , obviously you arent expecting a good outcome then,? What about if I smuggled in a bag of slitheras and discretely left the bag open and scarpered away, sledging Maynard, as I left?? GEEZUS i'm talking like a demented man now!🥴

Because the snakes would be right at home. 

[leave it to deever 17,517]

1 hour ago, John Demonic said:

Just Imagine how emotional Robbo would be if it was Zack Merrett. Not only back then,  but 6 months later now when discussing this media retirement topic. Instead he's cold and dispassionate (for once) to the suffering Gus has gone through. The bloke gets his knickers in a twist about anything else.

Could say the same about the rest of the media. If it was Daicos taken out and medically retired, how is McGuire arguing about whether it comes out of the cap or not, today? He would've erupted then and would still be erupting, flushed like a red tomato.  Lloyd and Merrett? L Mathews and Lachie Neale. Kornes and Rozee, Caro and Dustin Martin. All of these pr1cks would change their tune about the suspension and the cap talk, if it happened to their own player/club. 

Instead it's remarkably quiet. Very Elephant in the Roomy.

 

You'll have to excuse me, I saw the incident again and saw that thug veer towards him. Roused me again into anger.

 

Rest assured JD it will never be forgotten by fans and players. A new rivalry has arisen and not in a good way.

[Wodjathefirst 2,653]

I mentioned this on another thread but I think it is more appropriate here.

I liked how the GWS crowd booed that dog every time he got near the ball.  I hope that trend continues for the rest of the year.

(As an aside I really deplored how fans from all teams booed Goodes- it was not on. Similar for that young bloke who moved from North to Port [North supporters excepted]. Perhaps I’m a bit one eyed and biased- but I believe the Maynard situation is different. The difference being he deserves it, simple as that)

[daisycutter 29,737]

1 hour ago, Gawndy the Great said:

My view is if Brayshaw has acted on private medical advice, he forfeit's his contract ( unless there are specific provisions in his contract) and is ultimately able to draw down on insurance and other non salary cap related pay outs. .

If his retirement was forced by the AFL then frankly we shouldn’t be held liable and the AFL should exclude any payout from the salary cap.
 

So in both cases I don’t think there is much that MFC is liable for. 

swans got cap relief for mccartin.  end of story.

Edited March 14 by daisycutter
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[DistrACTION Jackson 9,225]

I think player managers and the AFLPA will be pushing hard for the Brayshaw money to not be put under the salary cap as well.

If it is, clubs are going to become extremely careful with signing long term deals and this would be a bad result for them.

[leave it to deever 17,517]

16 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said:

I mentioned this on another thread but I think it is more appropriate here.

I liked how the GWS crowd booed that dog every time he got near the ball.  I hope that trend continues for the rest of the year.

(As an aside I really deplored how fans from all teams booed Goodes- it was not on. Similar for that young bloke who moved from North to Port [North supporters excepted]. Perhaps I’m a bit one eyed and biased- but I believe the Maynard situation is different. The difference being he deserves it, simple as that)

I was wondering if that was because of his behavior on the day or the Gus incident.

[DistrACTION Jackson 9,225]

7 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

I was wondering if that was because of his behavior on the day or the Gus incident.

Think it was more to do with the Toby Greene incident... but still happy when he gets booed either way 

[forever demons 2,224]

56 minutes ago, picket fence said:

So , obviously you arent expecting a good outcome then,? What about if I smuggled in a bag of slitheras and discretely left the bag open and scarpered away, sledging Maynard, as I left?? GEEZUS i'm talking like a demented man now!🥴

Your fine Picky just like the of us

[forever demons 2,224]

4 hours ago, picket fence said:

The way I feel, I'd love to find a way to smuggle deep inside the filth cheer squad, reveal my Melbourne gear and absolutely give it all guns Blazing to Maynard! Or am I delusional ? Anyone else would be more than welcome to join!

 

Im in lets do it,i use a walker to get around so we could break it up and use as weapons.It may cost jail time buts its worth it

[binman 43,757]

1 hour ago, Wodjathefirst said:

I mentioned this on another thread but I think it is more appropriate here.

I liked how the GWS crowd booed that dog every time he got near the ball.  I hope that trend continues for the rest of the year.

(As an aside I really deplored how fans from all teams booed Goodes- it was not on. Similar for that young bloke who moved from North to Port [North supporters excepted]. Perhaps I’m a bit one eyed and biased- but I believe the Maynard situation is different. The difference being he deserves it, simple as that)

As a rule, I'm against gratuitously booing oppo players. 

But all rules need some contextual flexibility, and im willing to make an exception in Maynard's case. 

[Fritta and Turner 4,522]

Has it been confirmed that the AFL will pick up the bill for Angus contract?

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1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

swans got cap relief for mccartin.  end of story.

Just came in here to say the same thing and can add Tom Boyd and the Bulldogs to the list.