Trading pick 6

[chook fowler 19,519]

34 minutes ago, Bystander said:

My head is spinning.

This is a job for Bletchley Park. 

Alan Turing to become a consultant to the football dept.

[ChaserJ 5,157]

9 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I have heard if we keep 6, we’ll take Caddy.  In saying that we are definitely open to trading it to WC for their future 1st. 

It was interesting that other clubs are the ones that contacted Jason Dover re:Dees consideration of trading p6 for WCE future 1st.

Melb would wargame all poss scenarios, so wouldn't be surprised if we’d talked about potential swap for WCE’s ‘24 1st rounder & then canvassed the clubs with picks 7-10 to see if they would potentially do a deal for 11 & a further pick we would get from WC. They possibly then would have fed that on to Dover, hence the convo & line from Melb.

Working to get pick 1 would still be the higher ranked objective, so Dees have to say they’d take Curtin (I’d very much hope he’d be in the frame for us regardless), otherwise you lose all leverage in trade talks. Curtin’s camp probably prefer he stay out West, so serves them well to put that out there one way or another.

Edited November 8, 2023 by ChaserJ

[Demons11 7,046]

5 hours ago, demoncat said:

Jeez I hope not - no disrespect to Caddy but I really don’t think we need to draft a forward with our first pick three years in a row, especially if Sanders, Curtin or even Leake is available (which at least one will be)

Caddy is in the same mould as Charlie Curnow

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6 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I have heard if we keep 6, we’ll take Caddy.  In saying that we are definitely open to trading it to WC for their future 1st. 

Might be something to this, Cal T. just linked us to Curtin and Caddy.

[2021 301]

6 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I have heard if we keep 6, we’ll take Caddy.  In saying that we are definitely open to trading it to WC for their future 1st. 

Mind you, last week Cal also said that he didn’t think the Dees would trade out pick 6 either.

[demoncat 1,513]

1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Caddy is in the same mould as Charlie Curnow

I’ve heard the comparisons and would obviously love if we picked him and he became our version of Charlie

But tall forwards are just about the hardest position to pick when drafting - there are so many variables when bringing these guys into AFL environments, not least of which is whether their relative size and strength at the junior level will hold up against bigger bodies 

I like his competitiveness and ability to mark at the highest point - but I just think there are others around him who have more bankable traits that, personally speaking, would compliment our current list better both now and into the future 

More than happy to be wrong though!

[Colm 2,183]

Just listened to Gettable , Cal doesn’t seem to think North will pick Curtin at 2 or 3. Hawks are the biggest chance to take him before our pick. They are deciding between him and Watson 

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20 minutes ago, Colm said:

Just listened to Gettable , Cal doesn’t seem to think North will pick Curtin at 2 or 3. Hawks are the biggest chance to take him before our pick. They are deciding between him and Watson 

True, but if the Hawks take Watson, it sounds like the Dogs won’t take Curtin & he will get to us.

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9 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I have heard if we keep 6, we’ll take Caddy.  In saying that we are definitely open to trading it to WC for their future 1st. 

Do you think that Caddy could play year 1?

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

3 hours ago, 2021 said:

Mind you, last week Cal also said that he didn’t think the Dees would trade out pick 6 either.

Cal Twomey, Shifter Sheehan and Riley Beveridge see us taking O'Sullivan at 6, after bidding for Ethan Reid, according to their phantom draft on today's AFL site.

They have Curtin going to North at pick 3, which make sense, as they need key defenders

Edited November 8, 2023 by Stiff Arm

[Greg Schneider 987]

2 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

Cal Twomey, Shifter Sheehan and Riley Beveridge see us taking O'Sullivan at 6, after bidding for Ethan Reid, according to their phantom draft on today's AFL site.

They have Curtin going to North at pick 3, which make sense, as they need key defenders

As they stated, it wasn’t a phantom draft, it was a mock draft based on club needs, there’s a difference there. It was Sheehan who picked O Sullivan for us not the rest 

[Adam The God 30,403]

14 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

Cal Twomey, Shifter Sheehan and Riley Beveridge see us taking O'Sullivan at 6, after bidding for Ethan Reid, according to their phantom draft on today's AFL site.

They have Curtin going to North at pick 3, which make sense, as they need key defenders

Excellent. I hope so.

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

10 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

As they stated, it wasn’t a phantom draft, it was a mock draft based on club needs, there’s a difference there. It was Sheehan who picked O Sullivan for us not the rest 

Sure, wasn't denying that, however I reckon they would have worked the picks out together before recording

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28 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

Sure, wasn't denying that, however I reckon they would have worked the picks out together before recording

I doubt it. Sheehan is very inaccurate in these drafts each year.

Edited November 8, 2023 by 2021

[The Jackson FIX 3,210]

12 minutes ago, 2021 said:

I doubt it. Sheehan is very inaccurate in these drafts each year.

Likely because he is the only bloke that does them that either isn’t getting reliable mail or isn’t copying people who get reliable mail

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

7 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Curious to know why some phantom drafts have Ryler Sanders slipping to pick 9 or 10!

Bloke couldn't have done much more, winning the Larke medal and being a key cog in the Sandy flag.

If he is available at our pick I would be really surprised if we don't take him, can never have enough midfield guns in my view.

He's a very very good player, but i think it's a combination of him being slightly one dimensional in a time when you have to be absolutely elite to get away with that in the modern game, and the teams around his mark having positional needs 

[Demons11 7,046]

4 hours ago, Colm said:

Just listened to Gettable , Cal doesn’t seem to think North will pick Curtin at 2 or 3. Hawks are the biggest chance to take him before our pick. They are deciding between him and Watson 

I think the Hawks will take Watson.  I reckon if WC don’t trade with us then Curtin will slide past us 

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29 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

I think the Hawks will take Watson.  I reckon if WC don’t trade with us then Curtin will slide past us 

Are you saying we would pick Caddy over Curtin? Cal had us taking Curtin if he's still available at pick 6. I doubt Caddy would have been taken before pick 6, although Cal did later link Caddy to the Dees.

[old55 23,687]

On 08/11/2023 at 07:40, Demons11 said:

I have heard if we keep 6, we’ll take Caddy.  In saying that we are definitely open to trading it to WC for their future 1st. 

The other alternative offer could come from Freo, they have 3 2024 1st rounders, their own, Port's and Collingwood's so: F10 + F14 + F18 for 6? Curtin does barrack for Freo.

A bit of a bidding war between Freo and WC would be good: WC F1st + 23 for 6 + 42? 

Seller's market!

Edited November 8, 2023 by old55

[dazzledavey36 55,313]

From Fox Footy

Melbourne (Pick 6) and Geelong (Pick 8) will also consider Curtin should he slip to the latter stages of the top 10. But both clubs are also keen on Sanders.

 

 

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48 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

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Edited November 9, 2023 by 2021

[Mach5 4,768]

3 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

From Fox Footy

Melbourne (Pick 6) and Geelong (Pick 8) will also consider Curtin should he slip to the latter stages of the top 10. But both clubs are also keen on Sanders.

 

 

I always wonder if the chips are beginning to fall a certain way, or if we’re being fed a narrative by the footy media leading us to these conclusions...

But I can now foresee a WC/North/Melb trade whereby WC are able to be convinced they can acquire their targets (always easier to be seduced by names rather than points/pick numbers) in Curtin (6), Collard (15/18) and change (our F1, etc.)

Obviously we’d need to acquire 2 or 3, and North pick 1.

I’d be relatively happy to receive pick 2 (Duursma), pick 15 & change for 6, 11 & F1.

Probably happiest to leave the F1 out of it, but it doesn’t worry me too much.

Edited November 9, 2023 by Mach5

[sydneydee 689]

7 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I always wonder if the chips are beginning to fall a certain way, or if we’re being fed a narrative by the footy media leading us to these conclusions...

But I can now foresee a WC/North/Melb trade whereby WC are able to be convinced they can acquire their targets (always easier to be seduced by names rather than points/pick numbers) in Curtin (6), Collard (15/18) and change (our F1, etc.)

Obviously we’d need to acquire 2 or 3, and North pick 1.

I’d be relatively happy to receive pick 2 (Duursma), pick 15 & change for 6, 11 & F1.

Probably happiest to leave the F1 out of it, but it doesn’t worry me too much.

Curtin could become the best player of the draft so unless we get Reid, keep our picks and draft Curtin + best available midfielder at 11

[58er 6,538]

18 hours ago, Demons11 said:

I think the Hawks will take Watson.  I reckon if WC don’t trade with us then Curtin will slide past us 

I hope he doesn’t . Should trade up for him even if can. 

[Mach5 4,768]

37 minutes ago, sydneydee said:

Curtin could become the best player of the draft so unless we get Reid, keep our picks and draft Curtin + best available midfielder at 11

Yeah, but so could Duursma, or McKercher or Reid.

That’s the point - we’re trying to get our hands on the best player in the draft, or 1 of.